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Originally posted by leejohnbarnes
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by markosity1973
Why do you keep making these threads???
The FIRST seal hasn't been opened yet!!!
How do you know ?
which is quite amazing considering you never met me before I was born again.
I certainly DO KNOW.
You know, it's a shame you haven't found the joy that surpasses all things like those of us who have been born again by the Holy Spirit. It's sad, I wish everyone could experience this joy and freedom, to not fear death, to be completely free in Jesus Christ.
Secondly, anyone who has an elementary understanding of fallacies of logic knows that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". But I'm sure you knew that since you stated earlier that you "have logic".
Because you've personally verified all claims since the time of Christ.
I thought you claimed "logic" earlier. There is no way you or anyone else could study every claim "ever" made.
Honesty goes a long way when it comes to truth and fiction. I haven't seen any honesty from you at all throughout this entire argument. If you think you're such a good little christian, then do what your little book says and stop lying when your claims are challenged. Do you have what it takes to overcome your compulsive lying?
Originally posted by Condemned0625
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You still haven't proven that your jesus and god exist.
"Some of the topics in this forum will most certainly deal with the existence of God. Does God really exist? While this is a worthwhile topic many members wish to move past this introductory theme, past Religion 101, and would like to dive into deeper topic of religion and faith. Are Christians required to keep all of the 10 Commandments including the Sabbath day? Are the teachings of Mohammed peaceful, a beneficial for people today? Do Mormons really believe in polygamy? Do all Buddhist monks have flashbacks before battle? We can't begin to truly discuss these topics if we're constantly arguing about if God is real or not.
If you have questions that deal with the existence of God or want to ask if Mohammed actually was a real person or a myth, then please start a new discussion with a meaningful, appropriate title and you may then dominate a new discussion with this theme in mind. Please do not interject into deeper religious topics the question of the reality of a higher being. Unless stated in the topic, we are assuming in this forum that we've moved on past that point. Imagine discussing algebra while someone keeps interjecting that they still don’t believe in addition. The very reason that classes such as these have prerequisites is so new ground can be covered in the subject.
You have taken my response entirely out of context, which is yet another dishonest move on your part. I did list logical fallacies.
What, you want me to list them without quoting you so you can just dismiss them and claim you've never said such things?
You're full of it.
You just lied in your response (again) and then you lied again by denying it.
Tell me - what do you think about Krishna? Do you think Hindus are lying when they claim their Krishna figure existed and performed what they consider miracles?
If so, why do you think they're lying and you're not?
You don't know what it's like to be a Hindu or muslim because you're neither of those.
You have no justification for dismissing other myths while accepting a myth of your own at the same time.
You're a hypocrite and a liar if you think your religion is "the only correct one!".
You have no more evidence for your myth than any other religion has for its myth.
Once again, you have failed to justify your argument.
Originally posted by Condemned0625
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Demons? You've got to be kidding me. Any evidence that those exist? You just keep piling up one unproven assertion after another. Whether you believe it or not, your belief system IS a religion. You are religious whether you accept that fact or not.
I numbered the fallacies and I don't need a labeled list from you. I know all about the many different kinds of fallacies, many of which are committed by believers like you in every argument. I'll tell you exactly which fallacies you have committed.
Straw man fallacy; Argument from faith; Argument from personal experience; Bare assertion fallacy; Argument from biblical miracles (events that have never been verified to be actual miracles); Emotional plea; Last but not least - argument from personal revelation.
I'm sure there's more, but those are the main fallacies you have committed. I already numbered and listed just a few of them in a previous response. What's your excuse this time? Probably the same damn thing as usual. Let's see what kind of inane excuses you have to offer.
Moreover, if you want to include argument from personal experience then you couldn't argue about YOUR personal experiences which you have done!
You just made up a random list of fallacies off the top of your head.
Admit it, you don't have a clue what a fallacy of logic is do you? Would you care to copy/paste my fallacious argument and identify it from known fallacies of logic for us all? As of now your just repeating ad nauseum the same baseless charges as if the more you claim them the more real and substantial they are.
You didn't point any out, you made up random numbers
"Yeah, it really must be a shame that I abandoned such a ridiculous belief."
The argument from personal experience is an argument for God's existence on the basis of a personal religious experience.
Does it burn you up that every time I post you have to view the cross?
So why would I need to even argue for His existence in a place where it's assumed He exists already?
You fail to consider the possibility that his body was stolen by someone else.
You're not worth getting mad about. You want me to be mad? I'm rolling in laughter because of your ridiculous arguments. I don't know how much worse they can get.
Assumptions without justification and without evidence to support are usually arguments. If you believe that your jesus is also your god, then you have been making an argument for the existence of both, which certainly means you have been making an argument for the existence of your god.
Yes, you're mad
My life is STILL radically changed for the better by the Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit which He promised to all who are born again. It's still fundamentally changed in all aspects and I love it that not only has Jesus kept His word, but He has replaced the filth with unparalleled joy!!!
Anything else to add?
Oh yeah? Time to prove it,
Your hate-filled rant of anti-Christian bigotry