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UFO Armada Over Canada - 21st May '11

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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by ItsAnOddFuture
Why should anybody spend a second believing you that they are chinese lanterns. This is a two sided thing. I can't prove that they are space ships, and you cant prove that they are lanterns. All I'm trying to say is don't let this fall into the category of "definitely lanterns" when nobody can prove them to be so.

Don't get bent out of shape because I point out a loophole in a debunkers logic. They must remain UFOs until proven otherwise. I'm not saying they're alien spacecraft, I'm just saying nobody can prove them to be lanterns.


Once again, I am not a debunker, and just stop already with the characterization that anyone who looks at these as "Chinese lanterns" as debunkers. Thats like saying someone who points out that a sighting that looks like a twinkling star is probably just a star, is "debunking" the report.

My point is that really there is no point in wasting time to "prove they are Chinese lanterns" when it already is pretty widely accepted they are probably Chinese lanterns. There is NOTHING in the video to suggest they are NOT Chinese lanterns.

I think that UFO researchers have in fact many more cases which come in on a frequent basis which are truly anomalous, which are not easily explainable. So it really makes no sense to bother researching a case which really is not anomalous at all. I see lights moving in the sky every night which might be satellites or airplanes. But I don't bother reporting them as UFOs simply because I have not proven them to be airplanes, helicopters or satellites.

And really, I am not asking you "to believe" they are Chinese lanterns. You can read from the responses on this thread that many people who are familiar with Chinese lanterns say that this video exactly corresponds to the appearance and behavior of Chinese lanterns. This is not a matter of belief, but simply a matter of using normal methods of visual identification.

Probability that these are "spaceships" I would put at infinitesimally minute.

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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by Syroco

The most plausible explanation I can say for those is chinese lanterns, but exactly how common are those? Are they prominent from miles away even?
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chinese lanterns are hard to see after a mile or so you could maybe see em at 3 miles tops

AE - i'd bet thay are chinese lanterns........or reptured souls

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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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they are birds.
2nd line




posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Hi, anon. I'm aware of the trick. Upload the vids earlier than the planned day and sometimes even keep them private until it is time to share. Thing is if you are coming from Moot's site to defend this video only for trolling (and teh lulz) you aren't really even real anonymous. You are the anonymous that fails at every raid (most notably Scientology, financial institution DDoSing). Even the FB memorial page ones are fail. The real anon that can hack into things like Sony's PSN don't use your site and haven't for years (if ever). Congrats on piggybacking off of the real groups successes, though. There is power in #s I guess.

It is also great when the site is trolled by everyone else into making dumb changes (ponies anyone?)
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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by BadBoYeed
i'd have to say lanterns, the objects move steadily up and to the right



You know!! Every time I see a reply like this I am highly depressed as I want to believe sooo much!! Dang pransters!!!



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by ItsAnOddFuture

Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by ItsAnOddFuture

Originally posted by bluestreak53
They look like and behave exactly like Chinese lanterns as far as I can tell.
They are moving slowly up (from the heat from the candle), but are otherwise all drifting in the same direction with the wind.

I can't believe I missed this as I live in Surrey, but there you have it.


While I agree with you that Chinese lanterns move in such a manner, isn't this how you would envision an advanced aircraft hovering over a city to move?

For the people that say these are Chinese lanterns, please PROVE this. Show us real evidence that lanterns were released. If you can not do so then this sighting must remain unidentified flying objects, rather than drowning the thread in posts like "chinese lanterns, no doubt.". That doesn't cut it debunkers!


You could say exactly the same thing about any random grouping of stars, especially since it is much more likely that an advanced spaceship would be hovering much higher in the sky. Don't just give comments like "looks like stars", PROVE that these are stars!" LOL

FYI: I am not a debunker, but it is highly probable that these are just Chinese lanterns.


What I'm saying though is instead of allowing this thread to be inundated with unsupported claims that these are chinese lanterns, how about one of these extremely determined debunkers goes out and gets real evidence that lanterns were indeed released that day. Surely if that many lanterns were going to be released, it was to mark some kind of event or person and there is more than likely some mention of it in a local newspaper or on a local news site. If that proof can't be provided however, then these simply can't be written off as chinese lanterns and MUST remain unidentified flying objects until proven otherwise.

Too often do videos like this get written off as chinese lanterns with no real proof that they are so.


Why don't you go out an "prove" they are lanterns?

Seriously, there is nothing whatsoever in the video to suggest they are anything else but totally ordinary Chinese lanterns. What do you think we are going to do? Start knocking on doors in Surrey asking if anyone let off Chinese Lanterns on May 19th?

I agree with you that no one has "proven" these are Chinese lanterns, but why would I spend even a minute investigating something which is very easily explainable as a common Chinese lantern? LOL

I will keep my eye out for any mention in the local papers or other media, but so far, no one else has even mentioned them.


We don't even have enough Chinese here for there to be that many lanterns! LOL
maybe if they drifted from Richmond or Vancouver, I could understand.

also I mentioned that YVR is East in my post. I ment to say that it is West. and the winds generally come from that direction, so these lanterns we're moving from West to East.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Could it be more obvious? Chinese lanterns that is why they are coming up from the ground at left, rising and drifting in the light breeze to the right. Some fizzle out. Some appeared tethered.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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I looked at that video for about 5 seconds - Chinese Lanterns. They even rise at the same angle and same direction they did when I was at my mothers at new year. Hence why they are INSTANTLY recognisable. The flickering isn't a give away? to doubters? PLEEEEASE

If you have never seen chinese lanterns at a distance please do not attempt to make any assessment until you have. Because when you eventually do you will be thoroughly embarrassed!



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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It is Asian Heritage Month in Canada, I'm sure this video is related to one of the festivals or celebrations going on there.

www.venturevancouver.com...

www.cupe.bc.ca...

www.bcliving.ca...

www.cbc.ca...



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by BadBoYeed
i'd have to say lanterns, the objects move steadily up and to the right



Likewise.
Lanterns.

Sweet avatar!



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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This might well be lanterns but if that's the case, surely the family would have seen them before but more to the point how come the plane passes in front of them yet is smaller/or same size? They're damn big lanterns if that's the case.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Swamp gas.... Possibly a weather balloon.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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This is probably some of the best, if not the best footage I've ever seen of a supposed UFO fleet. As some posters have pointed out already the alleged UFO fleet was filmed through a window which leaves the video footage open to all kinds of questions and allegations that it was faked. I highly doubt its faked, the reactions of the people sound genuine but they do get spooked by a light that is clearly reflecting from inside their room and off the window so this would be enough for someone to question whether the video is genuine or not. I very much doubt what we are seeing are lantern's of any kind - these objects look very flat and oval-shaped. I'm very interested to find out more about this video, the locations and any other sightings, especially the report of that pilot who flew their plane through the UFO's (if he submitted one).



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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I don't understand the chinese lantern thing...are these a really common thing around the world? Does somebody just go out on a limb and just go "hey I want 20 chinese lanterns tonight"? I also find it kind of ridiculous that some people who have very little posting history come into threads like this just say "birds" or "swamp gas". Maybe they're trying to be funny or something but it kind of degrades these forums and any real discussion gets bogged down



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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I'm not sure if these 2 things are related but check this out....it might be related...they look like triangles...

www.unknowncountry.com...
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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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indefinitely the red light flashing on the right hand side is from the recording device, the abnormal movement of the red object is caused by the reflection of glass and movement of the camera IMO. I thought it was funny that they couldnt explain the red light and played it out to be a UFO. The lights could very well be in the background of the room reflecting off of the glass, though hard to say.



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posted on May, 22 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Whatever it was, that thing was the size of dozens of soccer fields so I don't believe it was a hoax. What it was is anyone's guess but it was really quite huge.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by here4awhile
I don't understand the chinese lantern thing...are these a really common thing around the world? Does somebody just go out on a limb and just go "hey I want 20 chinese lanterns tonight"? I also find it kind of ridiculous that some people who have very little posting history come into threads like this just say "birds" or "swamp gas". Maybe they're trying to be funny or something but it kind of degrades these forums and any real discussion gets bogged down


I too noticed their posting history is usually non existent almost. They should think about when they do open a thread one day what kind of response they can expect!



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