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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
reply to post by Newbomb Turk
On the one hand, there is the possibility that Elenin could be a dwarf star. In the middle we have the possibility that Elenin is what she is claimed to be, a comet. And then we have the possibility that Elenin may not actually exist at all and its being used as some sort of message.
If you truly believe that Elenin is a dwarf star, and we are all up the creek come September. Then why don't you go on a spending spree? Sell everything, spend everything, do a Camping.
You could even buy a big a55 telescope, take some pictures of the dwarf star and post them here for us all to admire. That is, of course, only if you truly believe it is a dwarf star.
Originally posted by cloaked4u
reply to post by Newbomb Turk
This commet will not even come close to us, so forget about it. It will absolutely positively do nothing at all. You might want to be careful of the WAVES, tho.
Originally posted by bumpufirst
reply to post by General.Lee
you are correct for the most part but,tired and bored?it is news true or not information, the more the better,that is what people say about politics and religion subjects,and they get irritated and down the steps until ignore.and has that ignoring attitude help shaping religion and politics?i think so. again, this is just my opinion.
Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by Newbomb Turk
Indeed in one of the other threads on this subject I have noted the date 24-26 Sept. Check my post history. It's there.
This being a date that if we are on the same plane as comet, i.e. on level alignment based on the positioning of the NASA model, then the solar winds that create the tail of the comet, which by information read here, seems to be very large, would blast across earth like a blow torch.
This would only happen however if the sun, comet and earth are on a perfect linear alignment at 90 degres to each other. i.e. on a 2D plane.
If however as this is a 3D system, if the comet in its approach trajectory is not linear to the Earth, i.e. it come from above, or below the system centre line, the tail as it sweeps around, would point even slightly if not completely away from earth.
As for the other points.
issuing a WARNING suggests that there is danger present, and that precautionary action should be taken to mitigate the negative effects of the event of which the warning was issued.
The need to "make viral" means that it should be spread as quickly and as far as possible. Further embedding the urgent, nature of a clear and present danger, about which the warning was issued.
In the absence of absolute proof that such an event will occur. In that people are left to look at the evidence and decide it is it true or not, indicates a need for the application of belief. In this case it is no different to Camping, or the Heaven Gate People, or Orthodox region as a whole.
You ask us to look at the scientific data. and decide from there. I have, And I decide, in line with scientific method, that as the effect are not known to us, and have not been proven, there is little I can do, without belief that would make me want to take this seriously.
But that in the end it IS just another date in the long line of dates, that have been and still yet to come, in which we will fried, zapped, melted, invaded, exploded, infected, microwaved, beamed, burnt, drowned, shaken, transported, ascended, transcended, Condensed, liquified, apprehended, abducted, starved, or generally made dead. When the truth is that every single person on this site, and in the world at large, is going to one day die.
And maybe that is the time for each persons judgment, not one day for all. But after that, and when the 25 Sept passes, we have 21 Oct to look forward to which is Camping's final day, then the 28 Oct which is "The Dark Knight" event. Then whenever blue beams starts, then Dec 21 2012. if indeed they have calculated it correctly!
In closing, why are so many people obsessed with the destruction of our home planet. maybe if we stopped considering continually the final destruction of it as a certain and constant ever present danger as we have been doing. We would treat it and each other with more respect. And this world could finally be the beautiful paradise it is capable of being.
Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
What are you talking about when you say, you got to "wake people up to what is coming"??
So, tell me, what do you want people to wake up to? That they are going to die on the 26. of September?
Who wants to know? And if you do know, does it better your chances of survival? No, it wont. So, what is it all good for? You are telling me, I am going to die on the 26. of september and you want me to wake up to it? Are you nuts?
Originally posted by Warpthal
How much damage could this comet do if it hits the earth?
Comet Elenin should be at its brightest shortly before the time of its closest approach to Earth on Oct. 16 of this year. At its closest point, it will be 35 million km (22 million miles) from us. Can this icy invader influence us from where it will be this fall? What about this celestial object inspiring some shifting of the tides or even tectonic plates here on Earth? There have been some incorrect Internet speculations that external forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer. "Comet Elenin will not encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit, nor will it influence us in any way here on Earth," said Yeomans. "(Thus) It will get no closer to Earth than 35 million kilometers [about 22 million miles]. Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets," said Yeomans. "And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt. So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers. It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."
The comet, IRAS-Araki-Alcock visited us in 1983 and was originally detected by the Infrared Astronomical Satellite, although this did not get into the press until several days later on April 27, 1983 when the English amateur astronomer Alcock and the Japanese amateur Araki independently discovered it and brought it to everyone's attention. Some Swedish astronomers at the Uppsala University had also detected it about the same time. It was discovered on April 27, and it made its closest approach to the Earth on May 11, coming to within 3 million miles ( 4.5 million kilometers)!!! It was so close that, even its brightness was diffused over a large area of the sky making it a faint object. At its closest approach it moved 60 degrees across the sky in less than a day!