Girders from WTC to be paraded through Napa Ca.

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posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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napavalleyregister.com...

Girders from the WTC are being brought through the town on their way to a local artist. Eventually they will be made into a memorial in Napa.
Napa is rumored to be a haven for many illuminati members, now I understand that this is a rumor (illuminati in Napa) about a rumor (the illuminati) but it seems strange that these girders are finding their way all the way to the west coast, I assume at no small expense. Locals leaving comments at the article are also finding it strange for the most part. "Normal" people will view the memorial as a commemoration of a tragic event and a tribute to those that perished. To the illuminati it may be viewed as a type of trophy.
Anyway nothing to jump up & down pointing & yelling conspiracy but nevertheless I found it a little interesting.




posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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It seems you have tried to portray illuminati in a way that wouldn't be ridiculed but i think it will. At no small expense? Do you remember seeing a thread about this giant frog thing that costs like half a mill in DC? (Anyone have a link?) Firstly we spend money on nothing all the time so this is nothing new. Secondly a memorial is what it is. A memorial. Thousand years from now when all the books have been burnt hopefully the memorial stays as a tribute to what happened on that day. Illuminati trophy? The only trophy they seek is money and control. Sorry illuminati hide outs dont exist. If they do they wouldn't need this memorial. Meh. I'm sorry for any harshness, just my thoughts.



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Notice how the girders have been cleaned, i guess to destroy all evidence of nanothermite. One would assume that if a memorial were intended, they would have left the girders in their original state, otherwise it could be any old steel... Americans are so odd.



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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I thought everything was sent over to Europe to be melted down?

Maybe not all?



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
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I thought everything was sent over to Europe to be melted down?

Maybe not all?



No, those damned fool conspiracy web sites pushing the "all the steel was immediately sent overseas" myth either didn't know major components were kept in a hanger at JFK, or, they simply pretended they didn't know because the truth would spoil their agenda to instigate false public unrest over ridiculous conspiracy claims

Personally I'm voting for the latter, for the simple reason they're now mocking the girders being sent to Napa which requires them to suffer selective amnesia and forget they were the ones insisting all the steel was destroyed to begin with.



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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I find it odd that people actually want to see a piece of metal from one of the demolished buildings. I can understand people showing respect at the scene of the incident, but a traveling girder is just weird.

It's sort of like if they pulled up a piece of wreckage from pearl harbor and paraded it around the country. Which of course would be disrespectful of those that perished there. I really don't see how this is any different.
edit on 21-5-2011 by Kaploink because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Yes well...apparently my attempt at disclaimers were lost on you. As far as illuminati "hideouts" people that think alike tend to hang out together. All in all though your points are well taken and this was, admittedly, just speculation and something to talk about.



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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Indeed, these Girders were made available to any city that wanted them, I would presume for these types of memorials.



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by jude11
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I thought everything was sent over to Europe to be melted down?

Maybe not all?



No, those damned fool conspiracy web sites pushing the "all the steel was immediately sent overseas" myth either didn't know major components were kept in a hanger at JFK, or, they simply pretended they didn't know because the truth would spoil their agenda to instigate false public unrest over ridiculous conspiracy claims

Personally I'm voting for the latter, for the simple reason they're now mocking the girders being sent to Napa which requires them to suffer selective amnesia and forget they were the ones insisting all the steel was destroyed to begin with.


Ok, got it.

But, to play the Devil's Advocate:

How do we know that these girders are legit and not plants at an attempt to De-Bunk the Conspiracies?

This would be an ideal way to start discrediting the people that have offered up proof. My guess is that these girders will have no trace of Thermite so that would be a good start at attacking 1,400+ Engineers and Architects and their conclusions.

If someone keeps protesting the official story, tell them to go to NAPA and take a sample. Easy.

A conspiracy within a conspiracy?



posted on May, 21 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
Ok, got it.

But, to play the Devil's Advocate:

How do we know that these girders are legit and not plants at an attempt to De-Bunk the Conspiracies?

This would be an ideal way to start discrediting the people that have offered up proof. My guess is that these girders will have no trace of Thermite so that would be a good start at attacking 1,400+ Engineers and Architects and their conclusions.

If someone keeps protesting the official story, tell them to go to NAPA and take a sample. Easy.

A conspiracy within a conspiracy?


An excellent point you make. I've been talking to quite a number of conspiracy theorists, and despite their myriad theories from controlled demolitions to lasers from outer space to hologram planes to secret gov't plot to Mossad operation to secret cults of Satan worhipping numerologists, they all have one thing in common- they always always always use more speculation of conspiracy to justify their prior speculation of conspiracy.

Why aren't there any witnesses coming forward? They're all too scared. Why are eyewitnesses reporting something different? They're all disinformation agents. Why does the evidence say something different? It's been manufactured and planted. Now, how can Napa have WTC steel when all the steel was supposedly shipped overseas and melted down? They're "plants at an attempt to De-Bunk the Conspiracies". All without even a microbe of proof to back even a word up.

This isn't proof nor is it even a hypothesis. It's circular logic in that it's repeating the same statement in different terms in order to explain itself. It's the same as the Bible saying everything in the Bible is true, therefore the Bible must be true. The only way such arguments make sense is if you want to believe it's true before you begin processing the statement. This isn't proper critical analysis. It's an agenda.



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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Recently my Fire Department escorted a section of WTC steel (from exterior wall) to a memorial site
outside a church here in NJ

I suppose we are members of the ILLUMINATI ....



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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I do not think that I implied that all (or for that matter any at all necessarily) WTC memorials were illuminati trophies. It just crossed my that IF (and I mean a great big huge if) this were an inside job of some sort what would cross the minds of any that were in the know as they cruised past one of these memorials in a limo? would they smirk? would they take no notice at all?
NJ FD you guys were closer to the incident and I would imagine you responded some resources if not initially then in the ensuing day? It makes sense you guys have a memorial but Napa? Parading girders down the street in Napa just seems kinda weird to me & I am not the only one check out the comments on the original article.
Perhaps Antyyk47 was right; despite my light handed approach to this I am to receive some flamage, sobeit I am a big boy.

"I suppose we are members of the ILLUMINATI..."

Dang you guys are everywhere (I knew there was something different about you E. coast FFs)



posted on May, 22 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by jude11

I thought everything was sent over to Europe to be melted down?

Maybe not all?




Originally posted by LafingWithTears Indeed, these Girders were made available to any city that wanted them, I would presume for these types of memorials.


We have some here in Christchurch New Zealand: Firefighters' Reserve

It's a nice reserve too, or at least it WAS before the earthquakes!



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Other odd memorials...conspiritorial, I dont know...in bad taste, perhaps
vigilantcitizen.com...



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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Maybe they will pass through Las Vegas for an episode of CSI. Those guys will get to the bottom of it in less than an hour.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by samkent
Maybe they will pass through Las Vegas for an episode of CSI. Those guys will get to the bottom of it in less than an hour.


Something just came to mind, and as you may know I am not a conspiracist - but with all the steel going to all these memorials I am reminded of something our church once said - "If you put together all the pieces of 'true cross' that are circulating around the world you would probably have enough timber to build a two car garage".



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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I think it's kinda freaky in a way that the Americans are doing this with the WTC materials, it's almost like taking the parts of a dead family member and hanging them in your living room.

To me this stuff is material from a crime scene and could yield traces of god knows what. There seems to be some kind of weird pride and arrogance that goes with these parades, 10 years later they are still touring around with this stuff like it's precious, sacred and even holy in it's current form. I'd understand it if represented some kind of achievement or victory but all it symbolises to me and probably many others in it's twisted deformed state is suffering, murder, death, deception and total failure. The only achievement from 9/11 was the coming together of people after 9/11, the event was an achievement for the perpetrators of the crime.





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