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Originally posted by autowrench
Originally posted by anti72
reply to post by autowrench
obviously you dont have a clue what is demonic or is demonic power. This has not necessarily to do with christian belief. No agenda, just reality.
Actually, I have most deeply studied into the Kabbala, the Sword of Moses, the Key of Solomon the King, and the Lessor Key, and every book on demonology I could get my hands on. I have performed many High Magick Rituals in the Golden Dawn Tradition, and many other Occult things that you would never venture into. Never once saw anything that looked like the Christian description of a demon. In fact, most books on demonology were written by Priests of the Holy Roman Church.
I do know about Elemental Spirits, though, they do exist, but are not all about possessing a human, or torturing people in Hell, or anything like that. In fact, we all have them, each of us has some odd 72 Elemental Spirits inside us all. The origin of the word (daemon, Greek) means, "inner spirit," so the word is quite descriptive, isn't it?
Scripturally, one never finds demons taking possession of places, objects, books, or buildings. Instead, they associate themselves exclusively with people, except for one brief instance (Mark 5, Luke 8) when they took over a herd of pigs which promptly committed suicide en masse. Also, it always struck me funny that ONLY the devout ever got possessed!
Also, I find it very hard to take seriously those who claim to find evidence of demon activity based on certain "evil" items/symbols in their homes, or places they frequent. The only problem with "un-wholesome" items is that they are un-wholesome in the first place. Demons have nothing to do with that, nor with anything whatsoever than humankind does.
Furthermore, most all evil in the world is done by Human Beings, all by themselves. Human beings need no help from the spirit realm to come up with nasty things to do to one another. Christians make a mistake if they are quick to blame every error, every problem in their lives on demon activity. The fact that you lost your job, or your car won't start is very unlikely to be due to demons. Far more likely, the true cause probably has to do with the person's actions, or economic reasons, or political reasons, rather than demons or Satan. This is why Occultist do what they do, friend, so that they can take power over their Elementals. These will manifest as mostly what we would call "the 7 deadly sins." Anger is one, Greed is one, Strife is one, and so on. Now some like to take power and order these Spirits to do the Practitioner's bidding, if you have studied into demonology, you know this. Others, like myself, would rather have a working relationship. They are in my, they are mine, what I do with them, or not, is my own affair, wouldn't you say?
Still think I don't have a clue?
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Amazing older thread, great analysis OP.
These "alien" channellers, New Age founders, Satanists and Luciferians all have the same goal.
A "new world order" which calls for the mass slaughter of billions.
They get their ideas and plans from these spirits.
There could only be a small percentage of people here that are not familiar with Revelation, given to us from Christ Himself.
1. Increase in natural disasters.
2. One world religion, finances and leadership
3. A grand deception, the biggest in all of mankind
4. The rise of demonic spirits controlling men leading to the AC
5. Christ blasphemed and denied and a rise in the worship of old gods
Gosh, I haven't even gotten half way through- and it's all spot on.
Thanks again OP, perhaps it will awaken one person. Maybe one person will be able to see that in order to accomplish their goals they had to "get rid of Christ". Which mean lies. They lie about everything else.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by WhoKnows100
Earth is satanic territory wether people realise it or not. It started with pagans worshipping various gods and offering sacrifices to the demons. There are so many examples of this its not funny in the slightest. Then came the abrahamic religions of the west(judaism, christianity, islam) which may have started out honest but quickly deterioted with unholy priests doing satans work. For example fasting is a mild sacrifice, as is sexual purity, no abortion, no divorce, priests not being able to marry, etc. God must be outraged that people are really THAT STUPID!