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Originally posted by burntheships
Why are corporate monsters like BAYER, MONSANTO, and Chevron allowed to "get away with murder",
while The Big Government kills off the little guy?
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7cbd1d16f615.jpg[/atsimg]
Wow this is a fine example of how The Government is a
bloated beast that needs to be put on a starvation diet!
“The first thing (the investigator) said was ‘My name is so and so, I’ve been in the USDA for 30-plus years, and I’ve never lost a case,’” John recalled, continuing. “He said, ‘I’m not here to debate the law, interpret the law or discuss the law, I’m here just to do an investigation.’” biggovernment.com...
In other words, I am here from The Government, and we are going to screw you to the wall.
biggovernment.com
(visit the link for the full news article)edit on 21-5-2011 by burntheships because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Evil3unnie
reply to post by coldbore
Girl With 'Illegal' Lemonade Stand Earns $1,838
To the OP I hope this is one case this guy will loose.
Originally posted by zerbot565
but failur to comply with a 10 dollar license cannot be accumulated in to a 4 m dollar fee , its just absurd
and beyond logic ,
id understand if they where put on a blacklist and banned from selling rabbits for a year or something like donating 100 rabbits to a local university or something ,
next thing you know you may not own a bicycle if you dont own a helmet licence, .
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by ArMaP
An you may be correct, if thats the section of the code that this Nazi USDA
worker cited.
But think man, come on. I could find case after case where the big corporations are not
fined to the maximum. Why?
Why is Monsanto allowed to poision the whole entire United States food supply (barrring the little guy
organic famer) and they have a favored watch dog in The White House?
Please, tell me how thats fair or right?
But when you sell something to someone else, then you are "telling" them your secret, because the government can get to you through them.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
and what's the valuable lesson learned here, folks?
don't let the gov/mafia know how much you make.
No, but that's why they should have know about the laws related to what they were doing.
Originally posted by OverMan
No one person knows all of the law.
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
I fail to see what the heck is wrong with selling bunnies. Please enlighten me. Also why does one need a liscence to sell some pets?
seriously? Enlighten me, because at this point, who ever is running the show is getting ridiculous. It's almost as if they are literally trying to piss people off.
I doubt things are really like they presented in that article.
From what I could see from some quick searches, it's not illegal to sell eggs...
The Commerce Clause: www.fff.org...
Enter Roscoe Filburn, an Ohio dairy and poultry farmer, who raised a small quantity of winter wheat — some to sell, some to feed his livestock, and some to consume. In 1940, under authority of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, the central government told Mr. Filburn that for the next year he would be limited to planting 11 acres of wheat and harvesting 20 bushels per acre. He harvested 12 acres over his allotment for consumption on his own property. When the government fined him, Mr. Filburn refused to pay.
Wickard v. Filburn got to the Supreme Court, and in 1942, the justices unanimously ruled against the farmer. The government claimed that if Mr. Filburn grew wheat for his own use, he would not be buying it — and that affected interstate commerce. It also argued that if the price of wheat rose, which is what the government wanted, Mr. Filburn might be tempted to sell his surplus wheat in the interstate market, thwarting the government's objective. The Supreme Court bought it
The Court's opinion must be quoted to be believed:
[The wheat] supplies a need of the man who grew it which would otherwise be reflected by purchases in the open market. Home-grown wheat in this sense competes with wheat in commerce. As Epstein commented, "Could anyone say with a straight face that the consumption of home-grown wheat is 'commerce among the several states?'"
FDA's Response to FTCLDF Suit
* "There is no absolute right to consume or feed children any particular food." [p. 25]
* "There is no 'deeply rooted' historical tradition of unfettered access to foods of all kinds." [p. 26]
* "Plaintiffs' assertion of a 'fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families' is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish."
[p. 26]
* "There is no fundamental right to freedom of contract." [p. 27]
USDA FACT SHEET: Shell Eggs from Farm to Table
What government agencies are responsible for the safety of shell eggs?
Many government agencies cooperate to ensure the safety of shell eggs from farm to table.
USDA Agencies
Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS)
* AMS is responsible for the Shell Egg Surveillance Program to assure that eggs in the marketplace are as good as or better than U.S. Consumer Grade B quality standards.....
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS)
* APHIS conducts activities to reduce the risk of disease in flocks of laying hens....
...U.S. Food and Drug Administration
* The Egg Safety Rule went into effect July 9, 2010 for egg producers with 50,000 or more laying hens. Under the requirements of this rule, egg producers are required to implement safety standards to control risks associated with pests, rodents, and other hazards; to purchase chicks and hens from suppliers who control for Salmonella in their flocks; and to satisfy testing, cleaning, and refrigeration provisions to prevent SE.
* These facilities must register with FDA and are required to maintain written plans summarizing their safety practices....
State Agriculture Departments
* State agriculture departments monitor for compliance of the official U.S. standards, grades, and weight classes by egg packers who do not use the USDA/AMS shell egg grading service....
Egg Safety Final Rule
July 7, 2009
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced a regulation expected to prevent each year approximately 79,000 cases of foodborne illness and 30 deaths caused by consumption of eggs contaminated with the bacterium Salmonella Enteritidis.
The regulation requires preventive measures during the production of eggs....
Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by ArMaP
I doubt things are really like they presented in that article.
From what I could see from some quick searches, it's not illegal to sell eggs...
It is REGULATED! That means the ATS member will get themselves hung out to dry if they sell or give away eggs from their chickens without being [url=http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml]injected, inspected, detected, infected, neglected and selected.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
sigh.
people on ATS would cry 'tyranny' for getting a speeding ticket in school zone.
These people ignored the law, and now are crying foul.
thank the animal rights activists for the laws these people ran afoul of.edit on 22-5-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)