George W. Bush racks up $15 million in speaking fees (who is he speaking to?), page 3
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reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 10:44 PM by mishigas
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Was Stern violating the law?


I doubt if he's worried. After all, look who the Attorney General is. Who's gonna prosecute him?



reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 10:52 PM by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask



Who is pandering to Obama? This is something that is thrown around daily on this board and I don't get it. Not everyone is fooled by this false left-right nonsense. Not everyone chooses one side or the other. Just because one verbally attacks Bush, does not mean one likes Obama.

The speaking fees are what they are. Every ex-president does it. What the OP was pointing out is that Bush was speaking to the very people who helped destroy the economy. That should be of concern to everyone.


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 04:39 AM by MikeNice81
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Of course you want proof. Other than the article in the OP that clearly says who he was speaking to and what he got paid, I understand you want solid proof. No guessing or supposition for you.


So what if he was talking to those people. I posted an article myself. It states that Bill Clinton was talking to these same people. Then he he was putting the money in his joint account with Hillary. She voted to bail out these same companies while she was a sitting senator. She also deals with these companies and tries to get them international favor. Now she does it from the office of Secretary of State. She has the president's ear directly. Plus she wields the power of America's entire diplomatic core.

So, if the OP some how proves Bush did something, then we should fillet Bill and Hillary as well. Bill for doing the speaking after his presidency, and Hillary for helping spend the money.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 12:25 AM by InvisibleAlbatross
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You make a good point. We really need to point out when any ex-president gives these talks. I do, however, think it is slightly more important to focus on Bush at this time, because he is talking to the people who led the downfall under his presidency. But all presidents are in the pockets of these guys.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 05:03 AM by Antiquated1
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Either you responded to the wrong post or you did not understand what you read. My point was that in the same breath, Mishigas demanded proof about Bush and then just made up stuff about Obama in the future. I was commenting on that disconnect from reality that allows people to demand proof that Bush was a bad guy but have no problem just making up bad stuff Obama will do in the future. You seem to be responding to the OP because none of your post makes any sense in response to my post.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:06 AM by MikeNice81
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I missed the last line on my first read through. I apologize for taking your post out of context.

I almost didn't need this line.
edit on 24-5-2011 by MikeNice81 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:09 AM by mishigas
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Either you responded to the wrong post or you did not understand what you read. My point was that in the same breath, Mishigas demanded proof about Bush and then just made up stuff about Obama in the future.


I didn't 'make up stuff' about Obama. I made a pretty solid prediction. Tell you what: If Obama does not profit from his time in office, then I'll eat my hat. How about that?



reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:18 AM by ldyserenity
reply to post by David9176



Geez I hope he wasn't trying to speak on Ethics?
Good Lord what was his speech to those people...
I bet it was "well done" & giving pats on their backs...
edit on 24-5-2011 by ldyserenity because: spelling



reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:35 AM by MikeNice81
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You missed my point in a large way. We have to look at all politicians giving these kinds of talks. We need to look at their spouses giving these talks as well.

The same guys that Bush talked put money in Hillary's bank account while she was voting for the bail out.I say it was an indirect bribe through Bill Clinton. How can she vote against the guys that just put millions in her joint account? How can any politician vote against these kinds of interest?

If these talks after leaving office are an act of bribery, what would you call Hillary's win fall? What do we call it when Bill is still getting paid for these kind of talks while she is Secretary of State?

People keep saying we need to look at Bush because of talks after the fact. Not really. His family had ties to most of these firms before hand. Most of these companies funded his campaign. We knew the deal before hand. Where he talks afterwards proves nothing. The proof is allready there.

What we need to be looking at are situations like Hillary's. We need to be looking at the fact that JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and Citi Bank are all top ten contributors to Barack Obama's national political career. His biggest contributors have been banks

I'm not attacking Obama or Democrats. I am saying that this is a common practice. The pay off happens before they get to the office. Looking at where they speak afterwards proves nothing. All it proves is that the rich like to buy access to people like them. If you want the good stuff check out websites like Open Secrets. They actually tell you who is funding the canidates.
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