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The SWORD and the STONE

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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 09:53 PM

There are two very important places where first fruits are mentioned and which show who is being offered up ...

Remember Christ has become the first fruits it means in simple language that his seed has gone on and multiplied and his seed are now the first fruits. ... Him representing the "foundation stone."

Ezekiel 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

Ezekiel 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Ezekiel 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Ezekiel 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Ezekiel 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.
The other place it is mentioned of importance is here ...

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

A first fruit is one still true to this original seed type.

Much of the bible is trickery ... one is lead to believe to be like Christ is a good thing ... well only if you like the idea of being sacrificed and offered up!
edit on 20-5-2011 by AprilSky because: spelling mistake

posted on May, 20 2011 @ 10:13 PM
The Sword and the Stone...
Adam and Eve...
Heaven and Hell....
Black and White....

Really, when it comes down to it, religion is all about diametrically opposed forces. Your Sword and the Stone representation, was it intended to mimic somewhat the story of Adam and Eve? Or did it just turn out that way?

One can't help but to contemplate what IF we are all simply the product of randomness, then where does it leave this? Or maybe I just do...

posted on May, 20 2011 @ 10:49 PM
reply to post by alphabetaone

from what i have gathered from the op the stones are women of pure breed.

what i'm still confused about -- according to his storyline - is who the swords represent: if the gods themselves or their minions on earth.

edit to add
aren't there any female goddesses?
why the long cycles. if those dudes are that powerful why should they wait thousands of years to visit this lil whorehouse (our so called earth)? do they have other brothels they like to frequent... is it a bar hopping on a universal scale kinda shindig?
edit on 20/5/2011 by maoklein because: add questions

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 12:23 AM
reply to post by maoklein

Most of the Gods are male, they have females which are like Queen bees, they make lots of eggs but don't carry their own young.

Hence why all the world worships woman who give birth to the Gods Babies ... The virgin birth is so called because the babies are fully theirs they are not half human. The embryo is implanted

Their species is quite different to ours. They are quite parasitic in nature really.

Same worship all over the world ...

In India, the mother and child were called DEVAKI and KRISHNA, and also ISI and ISWARA. MAYA and BUDDHA are worshipped by Hindus. In Asia, it's CYBELE and DEOIUS; in pagan Rome, FORTUNA and JUPITER-PUER, or the boy JUPITER; in Greece, CERES, with the boy PLUTUS in her arms. Even in Tibet, China, and Japan, SHING MOO ... the holy mother in China is portrayed with a child in her arms and a glory (halo - nimbus) around her.

Before this it was Isis and Osiris and before that

Queen Semiramis, this worship of the mother of God is constantly being renamed but the worship remains the same and it spread all over the world.

Queen Semiramis has many names and one of them is ALLAH.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 07:40 AM

Originally posted by GENERAL EYES
reply to post by AprilSky

I'm trying to understand how the stone as the "seed stock" could possibly be singularly female.

As I understand in traditional Masonic circles, the "stone" to be cut and worked into a Foundation is that of the Man's soul nature, that he may build his life upon it with the knowledge gleaned.

Are you saying that these "masons" have plans to completely re-work the feminine ideal?
I'm curious what direction this might take in the long run...I see many possibilities.

Sorry if I'm a bit slow, but I do find this very interesting.

Well most Masons tend to perform pagan-like rituals (which I've always found odd, since most of these fella's lead super Christian lives in the public eye, which I'm guessing is for votes... if you believe in votes... so I guess the perception of votes, but I digress). Before Christianity and Judaism came along, women were almost always the chosen forms for deities, with a few exceptions. Look at the Venus carvings. (Venus of Willendorf/shown)

I haven't read through this entire thread yet, and I'll admit its a bit difficult to keep up with the OP(s), but I've always had this theory that the "One Religion" that the New World Order would try to push would be a return to an Earth Based Religion, not Christianity like so many want to believe. Look at Bilderberg, the Owl Rituals they have there... the Skull & Bones... even the Nazis (Himmler specifically), the Illuminati...

...all of them practice(d) these old pagan rites. Just my humble opinion of course. Now allow me catch up on some reading.....

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 09:04 AM
Fascinating, need to re-read and digest.
Sword in stone

Sword Y

Stone X

Nigel Kerner has written an intriguing article that seems most relevant here:

Our Father who art from Spaceships

"There is significant reference throughout the account of the exodus of the Jews from Egypt to suggest that their saviour from bondage did indeed originate from a spaceship. Not least in this catalogue of evidence is a remarkable account of an encounter between God and Moses' son: The lead up to this encounter begins when God informs Moses that if he does not go to Egypt and free his firstborn (those being the 'children of Israel') then God will slay Moses' firstborn, his son. Unbelievable though it might seem were this a God equivalent in moral stature even to a decent human being, let alone a divine morality which would be beyond reproach, God then seeks to "slay" Moses' son: "And it came to pass by the way in the inn that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at his feet and said, surely a bloody husband thou art because of the circumcision." (Exodus 4:24-26)

Zipporah, Moses' wife, offers God the foreskin of her son, and thus information as to his genetic structure, in place of her son's life. With that genetic map "God" would have all the information necessary to successfully intercept Moses' line with all the information that was required to provide for them a leader of their "chosen people" who would accurately follow all that they wanted him to do. When Zipporah offers the foreskin, "God" lets her son go. Can it be possible that such a ludicrous course of action by a supposed "God" could have been deemed acceptable and worthy by so many people for so long? If the "God" to which this account refers is not an alien clone being seeking genetic programmes to intercept humanity, then what is he? Indeed could it actually be the case that the initial command for the children of Israel to circumcise their sons could have been a means for alien being to monitor the genetic information of their "chosen people." In other words, maybe the foreskins were taken by these beings and studied.

Just to interrupt this extract for one moment with some relevant research that came to light after the book was published, Professor Steve Jones in his book "The Descent Of Men" has revealed a remarkable fact about the prepuce (foreskin): "The prepuce has the useful property of almost infinite expansion, once removed. It can as a result be used to repair damage to its owner caused by burns or by inborn deformity. What is more, a baby's foreskin; placed in a nutrient solution grows to make a sheet of tissue, which, because it comes from a child whose immune system is not yet mature, is accepted by people in need of a skin transplant. Two types of cell, one from below the skin and the other on the surface, are used. Each is seeded onto a preparation of cow tendon, or onto a synthetic polymer. Soon they proliferate and, after a couple of weeks, the artificial skin is ready for use. There is almost no limit to how large the expanse can grow and the potential of a single prepuce is measured out in the size of football fields." 1 Thus circumcision may well have provided the aliens with a bumper harvest for the bio-engineering of their hybrids with humanity. Perhaps the practise of circumcision in tribes or communities around the world is a pointer to their some time interception by alien beings.

For all our pomp and colour eh..
edit on 21-5-2011 by Eocrow because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 10:19 AM
For some reason it made me think of this passage.
Psalm 118

The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

So even if the gods return for the stones the true stone will be overlooked..
great thread by the way.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:42 PM
reply to post by sprocket2cog

Thank you.

Because this thread didn't seem to be appreciated in the style it was done, I started another one and I am not sure how many double posts I can do so I will give you the link ...

I am new here and don't really know how things work, can I link to other posts, in other threads?

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:49 PM

Early Jews believed that the Holy of Holies in Solomon's Temple housed not only God but also his powerful female equal, Shekinah.

Men seeking spiritual wholeness came to the temple to visit priestesses - or hierodules - with whom they made love and experienced the divine through physical union.

The Jewish tetragrammation YHWH - the scared name of God - in fact derived from Jehovah, an androgynous physical union between the masculine Jah and the pre-Hebraic name for Eve, Havah.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 05:51 PM
reply to post by AprilSky

I dont see why not, but its always good to give a bit of detail and relevance to the post you are linking to first, so people know what they are clicking to.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 06:46 PM

Tipareth, the Church at Thyatira

Back in the Wilderness: and the Rough Places, Plain The mansion of the morning star flies in tandem with the sun in his circuits; for its silver windows are as the first clear reflection of that great light's brilliance. Its towers are with him in the east when the sun arises in his strength; they are with him, also, in the west, as he turns to visit other lands.

Always near him: if we see them not in his appearances, their hiding brings no shame. The glory of the sun outshines the mansion of the morning, and he sometimes draws it too close against his countenance for its lesser glory to be visible. Yet, it is very bright, indeed: were it to pass before his face, it would not greatly diminish the sun's shining. She who dwells therein may linger in the night to carry some message to the moon; but she is soon gone to rejoin her beloved, answering his call, and will follow him beyond our certain knowing. The lady of the morning star is known by some on Earth as Aphrodite, the embodiment of love. We do not contest their view of her; for it was occasioned by the aura of her soul, and it was inevitable that those who could not fully probe her mysteries should name her according to their perceptions of her.

She is Venus: called Beauty, by men of the West, and Tipareth, by men of the East. She it is who has the care of all growing things. Her first name was Chauwah. Seven golden points she has upon her crown, whose lights are mirrored seven times in the golden chain she wears about her neck to soothe her fading memories of the dark mountains she scaled on Earth in the early days, before she was lifted from the seas. It is said by some that she was born from the sea, arising full-grown from its ancient depths upon a shell. This is so, but not strictly so. She was first born past memory of mortal men in the garden of bliss; her birth from the waters was as a second birth: the beginning of her renewal in the mind of God.

It is told she will be carried in that shell-- as in an ark: again, as in a chariot of fire-- through and beyond the center of all things, to be seated, at the end of days, in her final place, beyond the partings of all the veils. At the inward points of her crown are seven narrow windows that shine as silver paths upon her necklace below. We call the light that rims these windows silver, but it is white beyond white, the meeting of visible and invisible. The windows begin as narrow paths of light; for she first entered the lighted realms by narrow roads, which fanned and broadened inwardly to converge as One, landing her safely in the circle of another, denser firmament than we have known-- a sky capable of bearing the negligible weight of such a one as she.

Neither is the mansion that lies beneath those skies truly known to men: the firmament of her world was fashioned as her covering. Neither could men live there, should they succeed in their vain efforts to gain her world without her leave and the consent of her beloved; for the jealous sun would blaze in tireless wrath against their mortal frames, overwhelming their every precaution, should they accost the dwelling of his love.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 07:24 PM

Originally posted by GENERAL EYES
The only thing I can't quit getting stuck on is the analogy of the stone.

A stone is a stone is a Stone.
It has very little to say in a Master Craftsman's hands.
How it yields itself depends on the skill of the Crafter.
If the Crafter is good and just, what worry has the Stone?

If the Craftsman is not skilled, will not the stone shatter and crumble in his hands?

Which sculptor was it [Michelangelo perhaps?] that, when complimented, said "I don't sculpt, I just chip away stone until the sculpture within the stone emerges." So maybe the stone does have an inner meaning or form that's only brought to light in the right mason's hands.

posted on May, 21 2011 @ 10:23 PM

Mayan elder says every 5200 years the light skinned Gods return. Their calendar is just to mark their return and the dawn of a new age and not to be afraid.

This cycle and their return happens repeatedly.

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