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Originally posted by Byrd
In the forum there are posts that show links to the canyon and the "Egyptian Ruins" and the trails by which these are accessible. There really aren't any Egyptian things in the Canyon; names were given by the mapmakers of the late 1800's, when all things Egyptian were the rage. You won't be able to "sneak" into the canyon and there's really no point in it when all these places are open and accessible.
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Hitthetrail.com is a site for tours and tour guides and resources including canoe trips:
A review of the old tales plus pictures of some of the caves and the Anasazi ruins is here:
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The park is very crowded, so I think advanced reservations are a good idea. Looking at the maps, these are not hikes for amateurs and having had experience hiking and working in West Texas, the travelers need to be with good guides who will make sure they're equipped for the trip.
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Survivalists actually wouldn't do that well in this area. You need to be physically fit, used to lots of walking and packing gear... and/or have a good guide.edit on 20-5-2011 by Byrd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MagoSA
Given that a cursory look of Native artifacts seems to have an Egyptian connection (look back to all these threads claiming connections despite gaps in time) its very likely Kincaid and Kenneman mistook one for the other.
I fail to see why it would be so hard to actually mount this and see if there is an Anasazi/Egyptian/Atlantean/Gray outpost.
I hike in Big Spring a lot - my folks are from there, especially over the summer when I can go visit my grandmother. I hear you and BFFTexan live out that way - maybe a coffee some time?
I know that is traditionally Navajo land, so a smart Texican would get a guide who's also familiar with the local flora and fauna in order to eat and stay relatively healthy... and to think that everyone would probably be a little slimmer than before.
Originally posted by Byrd
Actually, they don't. Check out the threads on Egyptology that are pinned at the top of the forum and start reading up on the art and the religion and writing of the Egyptians. I don't know how familiar you are with Hopi/Apache/Pueblo thought and religion, but they're really very different. And the Anasazi... they weren't around until 900 years after Egypt fell (rule of the Ptolemys. Last person who could read hieroglyphs until the modern time died around 300 AD. Anasazi date to 500 AD.)
And, of course, there's no proof that Kincaid ever existed OR visited the place:
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It isn't. It's been done many times before. And the ruins are well documented.
Oh, I would love it, but we moved from Big Spring in 1979. I used to work at the state park on top of the Caprock there! In any case, I see that you are indeed someone who could march out into the desert and not do ridiculous things and get yourself hurt!
Ah jest waves mah lil' credit card and folks brings me what I wants. Although I do know some of what's available to eat, frankly, you need to bring supplies. The desert habitat is very fragile and it takes a long time to prepare things like yucca root (IF you can find it.) Much easier to simply go on one of the canyon expeditions.
Crystallinks has some lovely pictures of the formations. You can see they're not manmade. You can also see they've gotten very excited and photoshopped some real artifacts into the cave walls. In the tale taken from the Hopi, the name "Machetto" isn't Hopi and the "hieroglyphics" down at the bottom of the page are fake (the hawk and the designator for 'deity' are facing different directions, for one thing):
Even on my latest adventure (to the Devil's River to look for dinosaur footprints), I stayed in a motel. Less exciting, but I do have mild scoliosis and it's worth it to be able to wake up and actually walk more than 10 feet the next morning. I have eyed renting a camper, however.
But, y'know, it would be kind of cool to get permission (easy enough to do with the right connections) and go explore those places. It would be MORE fun to take a full camera crew and do a report on it, although I think it would be more pleasant to fly around the Temple of Ra than to actually try to climb the freakin' slopes up there. You'd need mountain climbing gear, I think. Helicopter... much cheaper, much more convenient, no days and days of hauling your silly self up those cliffs.
Kind of a fun idea to debunk it once and for all.
I wonder if Mythbusters would fund me. I'd go in a heartbeat!