Seismic Activity in Turkey in the last 20 hours ???

reply to post by PurpleDog UK


I am definitely no expert however I have been watching earthquake activity for several years. It is not uncommom to have what they call earthquake swarms which is what this seems to be. The odd thing I have nocticed is usually there isn't necessarily a major earthquake in the local. Sometimes they seem to prelude a major quake in another locality that would seem to be unconnected. Could be just coincidence. Personally I wouldn't worry about this swarm unless there is something strange going on.

Confirmed grid pattern from EMSC.
If you log the lon/lat of them like I did 3 posts up they are EXACTLY spaced on the land.
There is no way this is natural, and most are 3.0 and higher.
They are going off randomly, and filling in a grid pattern?!?

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reply to post by Absum!


Linky to that web page please.

Thanks

reply to post by Absum!


Linky to that web page please.

Thanks

More blanks in the grid have filled in again, this is so strange!

EMSC Interactive maps

Originally posted by remymartin

reply to post by Absum!


Does not look like a grid pattern to me.
www.emsc-csem.org...

Originally posted by remymartin
reply to post by Absum!

 

Does not look like a grid pattern to me.
www.emsc-csem.org...

OK, directly from your link when you zoom in.
I see a grid. And it has been filling in spots between existing spots.

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I'm going to Turkey on Monday, first time I've left this island in 8 years! Any terrorists, earthquakes, raptures etc can just bugger right off, I'll slap em straight in the chops if they wanna mess with my much needed holiday!! I don't know how i'd slap an earthquake but I'd bloody well find a way!!

reply to post by Absum!


I think because the earthquakes are on an overlay on the map, when you zoom in they will align.
but its not a true representation if you know what i mean.

For instance you can make them appear in the same place.
www.emsc-csem.org...

Originally posted by remymartin
reply to post by Absum!

 

I think because the earthquakes are on an overlay on the map, when you zoom in they will align.
but its not a true representation if you know what i mean.

For instance you can make them appear in the same place.
www.emsc-csem.org...

edit on 20-5-2011 by remymartin because: (no reason given)

That would be great if only the Log/Lat numbers we not posting like this look at the last numbers on locations in bold. I don't have time to do them all, but here is one line.

Exactly .6 point change between each earthquake. This is only one line in a series of several on the map that ALL line up both directions!

3.6 then 4.2 then skipped(4.8 has not happened yet) and 5.4 then 6.0 and 6.6 and 7.2

EQ-20110520-198549-TR Magnitude: 2.3
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 3.60

EQ-20110520-198495-TR Magnitude: 3.0
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 4.200

EQ-20110520-198506-TR Magnitude: 2.8
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 5.400

EQ-20110520-198485-TR Magnitude: 3.5
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 6.000

EQ-20110520-198517-TR Magnitude: 3.2
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 6.600

EQ-20110520-198544-TR Magnitude: 3.1
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 7.200

Just stumbles upon a geothermal systems report for turkey. What is interesting is that western turkey is filled with fault lines. There is an image in this report that shows the fault lines. The eq in sumvai is right on a fault line... Does this suggest that this is going to be a trend with other faults in the world?

www.unr.edu...

reply to post by Absum!


Great work Absum!

On the ROSE EDIS site there have been 73 reported in the past 24 hours and almost 90 since this little event started.....

I know you get swarms of tremors etc but this is very very strange !!

regards

PDUK

this has probably got nothing to do with the earthquakes, but it might be worth having a closer look at

The Chamber of Environmental Engineers on Wednesday released a statement that dangerous amounts of cyanide were found in a sample taken from a water fountain in Kütahya, where a tailings dam of a silver mining facility collapsed earlier this month.

todayszaman.com...

The statement said that thousands could die in case of a leak. The TMMOB said if the tailings dam collapsed completely, the toxic sludge would flow into the villages of Köprüören, Kızılcakaya, Yoncalı and Örenköy, all located close to the facility. In case of an overflow of the tailings dam, the cyanide waste could easily reach the Sakarya River through the Porsuk River and then into the Black Sea. “A disaster 25 times worse than the tailings dam disaster in Hungary that unnerved the entire world last year could happen in Kütahya any minute.



The facility, owned by the Eti Silver Corporation, reportedly contains 15 million cubic meters of cyanide. It is located 34 kilometers from the provincial capital, near the village of Gümüş.
www.firedirect.net...

with all the earthquakes in the region at the minute I wouldn't like to be anywhere near there at the moment

edit on 20-5-2011 by JackieO because: to add location

Time to change the thread title to something bolder because this needs to rise to the top of ATS!
Ok, check this out. I selected a column this time instead of a row of earthquakes.
Look at the Location minutes after the degrees! Every quake in the line is Location: 39° X.XXX, 29° 3.600 Again exactly .6 points change quake to quake only North to South. A perfect grid and Not Natural!

7.800 then 7.2 then 6.6 then 6.0 then 5.4 and 4.8 and so on

20 May, 2011 at 09:00:43 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 09:00 in the moorning at epicenter
Location: 39° 7.800, 29° 3.600
Depth: 5 km (3.11 miles)

EQ-20110520-198538-TR
Magnitude: 3.1
Mercalli scale: 1
Date-Time [UTC]: 20 May, 2011 at 05:51:50 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 05:51 at night at epicenter
Location: 39° 7.200, 29° 3.600
Depth: 5 km (3.11 miles)

EQ-20110520-198549-TR
Magnitude: 2.3
Mercalli scale: 1
Date-Time [UTC]: 20 May, 2011 at 08:50:38 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 08:50 in the moorning at epicenter
Location: 39° 6.600, 29° 3.600
Depth: 5 km (3.11 miles)

EQ-20110520-198635-TR
Magnitude: 2.9
Mercalli scale: 1
Date-Time [UTC]: 20 May, 2011 at 19:16:10 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 19:16 in the evening at epicenter
Location: 39° 6.000, 29° 3.600
Depth: 5 km (3.11 miles)

EQ-20110520-198595-TR
Magnitude: 3.1
Mercalli scale: 1
Date-Time [UTC]: 20 May, 2011 at 14:32:08 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 14:32 in the afternoon at epicenter
Location: 39° 5.400, 29° 3.600
Depth: 7 km (4.35 miles)

EDIS Number: EQ-20110520-198632-TR
Magnitude: 2.8
Mercalli scale: 1
Date-Time [UTC]: 20 May, 2011 at 19:34:50 UTC
Local Date/Time: Friday, May 20, 2011 at 19:34 in the evening at epicenter
Location: 39° 4.800, 29° 3.600
Depth: 5 km (3.11 miles)

reply to post by Absum!


This is not natural....

As the 'grid' being formed is not complete is there an image or some kind of communication appearing with these locations ? - just thinking out loud.......... i don't see anything i recognise but then I don't know everything either !!

Can't change the title after 4 hours ..........sorry...

PDUK

Just a little history and Expectation of something to come !! an article back from 2005


Turkey fears future quake horror

For 50 seconds on 17 August 1999, the ground in north-western Turkey shook violently.

It was a massive earthquake, with its epicentre in Izmit, that claimed more than 17,000 lives.

Six years later, experts warn the next quake will be much nearer to Istanbul. But the city is not even close to ready.

High in the hills overlooking the Bosphorus, scientists at the Kandilli Observatory have kept the print-out from that day - a dense waveform measuring 7.4 on the Richter scale.

These days the paper seismographs are only kept for back-up. The Turkish government has spent more than $1m (£575,000 or 855,000 euros) upgrading the station to digital technology. There are now four times more monitoring stations - mostly focused around the Sea of Marmara.

There is good reason for that.

"The ruptures in the fault are migrating westwards," Niyazi Turkelli explains, waving towards a map of Turkey on the wall with the active North Anatolian fault-line marked in red. The only section still unruptured is the one closest to Istanbul.
"The fault could break once or in several stages," Niyazi says. "If it ruptures once, then the expected magnitude will be 7.7, maybe 30km (19 miles) from Istanbul. It could be a disaster."

The World Bank released a $400m loan to the Turkish government last month to help prepare Istanbul for that eventuality. The money will be used to strengthen 40 hospitals and 600 schools.


Why Turkey suffers earthquake misery........
news.bbc.co.uk...

PDUK

reply to post by Absum!


OK, first let me put the grid pattern to rest.

This happens when an agency only uses 2 decimal places for a decimal latitude and/or longitude. Basically these co-ordinates are useless unless they are to at least 4 decimal places.

This illustrates the problem. The orange ones are USGS (4 decimal places) and the red ones are EMSC (2 decimal places) Notice the difference in positioning of the 5.8 quake because of this? (That difference is 1.58 miles by the way)

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You can also see the characteristic 2 decimal place gridding here as well.

As far as the activity is concerned I posted some graphs on quake watch earlier to day. Here is the link

I am not sure if this area has had swarms before as I have not had a chance to look, but as someone pointed out Turkey is very active.





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OK the rate of quakes in Greece since someone mentioned it, is steady and has been all year. Here is the past month.



This is NOT the case with western Turkey



By the way the total today so far is 131. Over the past year the average per day is about 7. This is definitely WAY above normal for the past year anyway.

reply to post by PurpleDog UK


I have gone back to 1965 using the NEIC data and I find that there have been instances of this in this area before.

This graph is very large because there are a lot of years to get in, but you can clearly see that 1993 and 1994 had something similar happening. This data is from a 100 km circle around the centre of the current swarm, but from the figures I can tell you those were in pretty much exactly the same place as the current ones. This was to a lesser degree the case in 1998 as well.

reply to post by PuterMan


Puterman

The last Really BIG one around that region was Aug 1999 which killed thousands........ It is quite close to Istanbul, a city with a population of around 11 million people. There are worries about another biggie affecting that city...

I never really look at this sort of data because if it happens, it pretty much happens I guess and there's not a huge amount you can do about it but what I found interesting was the Intensity of tremors and quakes in a relatively short time span....

Must mean something is moving down below, question is where does that movement and it's force go to ?

Thankyou for the info.... you seem to be on the ball when it comes to this sort of stuff..

Regards

PDUK

reply to post by PurpleDog UK

"The ruptures in the fault are migrating westwards," Niyazi Turkelli explains, waving towards a map of Turkey on the wall with the active North Anatolian fault-line marked in red. The only section still unruptured is the one closest to Istanbul.
"The fault could break once or in several stages," Niyazi says. "If it ruptures once, then the expected magnitude will be 7.7, maybe 30km (19 miles) from Istanbul. It could be a disaster."

The really strange think is that yesterday I recalled clearly a map produced by the Daily Mail which detailed exactly this westwards progression. It really interested me at the time. I remembered that it was around 12 years ago as it was before I moved to Ireland. It must have been a response to the 1999 earthquake. I had not remembered the quake, just this progression along the faults.

Read this yesterday, but couldn't find it earlier this morning to comment

Just to confirm Putermans explanation about the grid like pattern when viewing EMSC plots of the earthquake aftershocks. Only 2 decimals on the co-ordinates.
I noticed it the other day when I was doing some siesmic cross sections using GPS and the same thing happened and at first I wondered WTH?

Same thing with old historic New Zealand Data, only 2 decimals and they come out grid like. That was prior to 1970.

For those who didn't know I've been keeping tabs on the Turkey series over on Quake Watch 2011, on there theres the latest map based on data by the Turkish Network (without the grid like pattern, they use 4 decimals)