5-21-2011 Rapture... Get the facts strait..., page 6


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reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 05:01 PM by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by predator0187
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by predator0187
The devil, you know that bad guy, is the one who told Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge

Pred...


Nope, no "tree of knowledge". Do not read corrupted books.


In each of the stories, the trouble begins with human sin. Adam and Eve eat of the fruit of the forbidden tree (2:16-17; 3:1-7). (What kind of fruit is not mentioned and it is immaterial. The idea that it was an apple seems to come from a Latin pun: the same word, malum, means both “evil” and “apple.”)


The "forbidden tree" that will provide visions of god.

Sorry didn't know I would be playing a semantics game...


Pred...


No no no, that is not my point. This is my point: God did not forbid them to eat of the tree of KNOWLEDGE - since you said God is against humans having knowledge. God only forbade them to APPROACH a tree. No mention of the "tree of knowledge".
Then Satan came to them, because he had sworn he will make them all fall, and told them this:

"Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal."
And he swore [by Allah ] to them, "Indeed, I am to you from among the sincere advisors."

So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?"

(Qur'an, 7:20-22)

It is indeed VERY IMPORTANT choosing every word when quoting this. Because, if you base on the account in the Bible, then it sure seems God is an evil person who does not want humans to get knowledge - but if you base on Qur'an - then you see that God WARNED them that Satan is an open ENEMY to them, and he will try to deceive them. Which he did.


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 05:04 PM by romanmel
Originally posted by MJZoo
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post by romanmel



So the Bible is literal now?
Just curious.


These are the words of Jesus.
This is what He said about the religious leaders of the day.


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 05:06 PM by MarshMallow_Snake
reply to post by EvolEric



I am sure that on Sunday, Harold will still be here and will be rolling in the cash that he has somehow collected through this event that he devised.


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 05:22 PM by NorthStargal52
reply to post by EvolEric



I totaly understand where your comming from .. I have christian friends that are level headed and arnt into every doomday warning or dogma that comes out .. unfortunatly there is nothing one can do .. it has happened to my traditonal members also its just BS ... I cant believe it got this far .. so I cant say I havnt had a little fun with it myself .. but yeah folks I dont believe we will be seeing a rapture .. any time soon ..IMO nsg52


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 05:25 PM by sostoned
reply to post by EvolEric



Hi, thanks for setting the record straight with this guy. I was raised Catholic with a lot of church and stuff growing up but for the life of me don't ever remember being taught anything about a "rapture". Where is it mentioned in the bible and what does it entail exactly? Thanks.


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 08:30 PM by terilynn
reply to post by ErgoTheConfusion



He has! He uses man to do this just as Jesus said when He was scolding the teachers of religious laws in the first 4 books of the New Testament... The anti-christ will be a church appearing to be holy but will really be a wolf in sheeps clothing... He uses man to twist God's words and most blindly follow mans interpretations of God's word rather then reading it for themselves and asking God to grant them the wisdom needed to understand it. The blind leading the blind will both fall in the ditch! Jesus said that about the teachers of religious laws.. Soon the whole world will see just how sly Satan is at deceiving when they find they were deceived and fooled by him... Rapture is not even in the Bible... God never raptured anyone of the prophets including Jesus so He isn't going to rapture anyone else either. I feel sorry for those who believe what they are taught by man instead of learning from the Father and His word.


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 09:12 PM by terilynn
reply to post by romanmel



Amen! I totally agree with this statement! Have to watch out for organized religions.. They are in it for the money it brings them.. They tell you all feel good stuff so you will continue to come and fill up their offering plates.. Jesus never passed an offering plate to those He preached to.. Jesus didn't preach from a large church... In fact the priests were the ones who demanded Jesus be crucified because He spoke against them and their teachings.. Look back in History,,, Search and see WHO changed God's Saturday Sabbath to Sunday.. See who invented Christmas and Easter to take the place of God's set appointed festivals? It was man who did this.. God never changed His times and laws in the Bible.. All it takes is a little research and alot of reading... Christmas, Easter, not in the Bible.. Pagan holidays! Search it for yourself Google the origins of those holidays and see if they aren't sun god holidays celebrated by the pagans... Find out why they were labeled Christian... Has nothing to do with the Bible or God's will... All has to do with POWER! They changed all these things to attract the pagans to Christianity to gain more power in numbers and to accept the changes is accepting the MARK of the Beast.. Accepting mans authority to change what God said is law ( 4th commandment ) and what God said to celebrate forever generation to generation ( Passover, Festival of Unleavened Bread, Festival of Harvest and Festival of Final Harvest ) Read Exodus 23... Funny how Exodus 13 states the celebration Passover and uses the words...verse 9... This annual festival will be a visible reminder to you, like a mark branded on your hands or your forehead.Let it remind you always to keep the Lord's instructions in your minds and on your lips.Repeated once again in verse 16 of that chapter.. Must be important... Those who are sealed by God follow His laws and ways and those who follow man made traditions have accepted the mark of the beast.. The mark isn't coming...it has been here for some time now... Yet folks are still waiting on it to come.. Marking of hands and/or forehead means doing the works of mans traditions like following their traditions or thinking it is Ok that man changed what God set as laws or commands. Simple as that!


reply posted on 20-5-2011 @ 09:41 PM by Avyuir
reply to post by EvolEric



You are very correct, I grew up in a very religious household and was always upset when people generalized without looking further into it.

I don't know why anyone would listen to this Camping quack.
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