It's Official: Obama is NOT a Christian.

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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Israel is not a political issue, it's a Bible issue.

America must support Israel because Joel 3:2 and Obadiah 1:15 make it very clear that any nation (including America!!!) that tries to divide the land of Israel (including Jerusalem!!!) will experience the judgement of God.

The day America turns its back on Israel is the day God turns his back on America.

That day was today.

Israel was born 3500 years ago, not right after WWII. Genesis 13:14-15, and 17:7-8

If our President was a Christian like he told us...He would understand this. Obviously he doesn't.





posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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That day was years ago when some in Israel decided to become power hungry, dividing the country into true believers and foxhole politicians. America isn't dividing anything. We're just taking our name out of the equation. Personally I think Jerusalem needs to be nuked into a crater, and then that crater should be filled with mercury so that no one ever returns to the spot. That place has become exactly what the Bible, Qur'an, and the Tanakh have preached against for centuries. If armageddon is to occur, it'll be because of what Israel is, not what it could become.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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reply to post by Signals
 


you are sad and lost mentally

spiritually

and above all

literally

you are lost in a fantasy

a figment of your warped imagination

the bible was written by man to control men

it was perverted just like every other single religion in the history or our world

ignorance is not your friend and you should seek help



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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any god supporting a nation killing innocent civilians

is no just god

or god that should be worshiped



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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Yes, i agree. The only difference is that it won't matter if everything fades to black because ... we will no longer be here. The trance will no longer be able to hold us captive to this upside down backward place i like to refer to as a Dreamare. And quite honestly speaking, i can`t wait.



Originally posted by Mactire
reply to post by neo96
 


More like 10 to tango in this case. I'm not arguing your point, just the power of Obama. He does what he's told to pay for his seat in the bunkers when the bombs begin to rain.
He's not worrying about pissing anyone off, because he knows 70% of voters won't be back for the 2012 vote anyway. They'll all be toast.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Signals
A Christian is bound to protect Israel.

Your whole OP swings on this premise...
...where is it stated that a Christian must do this?



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:04 AM
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There are numerous Gods throughout history, in almost every known culture. One of the first if not oldest being the Sumerians. Many of these Gods were crucified, had a virgin birthing and promised to return one day. Aleister Crowley, however freakish he was, said it right out in the open. Everything here is backwards and upside down. Their God is the same God you worship, you just arent aware enough yet to realise it.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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I fail to see the point i giving a care to what religion anyone is, Religion and State should be separated, it should have no factor in anything to do with the 'Laws' or 'Rulings' of the Country and the world,

Religion is a personal belief not a 'Ruling Power'



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:19 AM
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Which Christian wing are you referring to... the right wing one of intolerance and hate or the left wing that bleeds into ridiculous fairy-tales. Either way the bird is from an era of the past and is consuming the flesh of a peaceful future for humanity. All religions need to be de-feathered, tarred and thrown into an abyss of lost memories. Bring on the individual relationship with the creator, one without the salesman/manipulator in the middle.

Time for the kids out there to get passed the tooth-fairy type characters handed down by the Semitic nomads lost in remote deserts thousands of years ago.

Sh!t happens whether we are on this planet or not, If anything we make it worse for the creatures who share this world... perhaps they are the 'meek ones' who will eventually inherit the earth. That would be an obvious conclusion for a the last nomad dying in the desert. He goes back into the food chain as vulture dung.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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Israel has become the focus of intense political conflict in a crazy game of the NWO. There were Socialist zionists involved in its founding as a State, as well as monies from the Rothschilds family, and indeed a founding Rothschild is buried in a masonic graveyard in Israel. The Rothschilds apparently set a place for Satan at their table. Inside the Supreme Courthouse in Israel are masonic symbols embedded in the architecture just like they are in Wash DC. The Illuminati have hi jacked everything about Israel, like they have the USA. It seems to me that they have hi-jacked the apocalypse as well and think they can control it in their rebellion against God.
Still, I am not sure how this will play out, because the original Masons were deeply spiritual and had great knowledge, and since the Illuminati hijacked the masonic order things have gotten quite murky.
It is just a turn of the dial.

Did I forget to mention that Rothschilds control Soros ...
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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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Israel is a political issue, the Zionist movement was secular and was viewed with suspicion by religious Jews for this reason. Some Orthodox sects go so far as condemning it and some of the more extreme fringe movements of Orthodox Jews actually call for the dismantlement of the state (you've probably seen the pictures of Jews in hasidic dress waving Palestinian flags).

I do NOT agree with the following quotes and they are quite controversial however I will post them to validate the point I just made:



* "[The Torah] forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means"
- Rabbi S. R. Hirsch

* "Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel." - Rabbi S.D. Schneerson

* "[Zionists] want a state in order to make Jews into heretics." - Rabbi C. Soloveichik

* "The Zionists have attacked the center point of Judaism." - Rabbi V. Soloveichik


Israel is a secular society, a republic, not a theocratic state and is filled with ordinary people, many of whom aren't religious and just want to get on with their lives. The situation in the land is purely political and is already highly volatile, adding more religious fervor to the incident (which is what 'Christian Zionism' is ultimately doing) is only going to result in the deaths of even more people. The trouble in the middle east is for politicians to sort out, it's not a holy war and I seriously doubt either side would have God's approval...
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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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The Rothschilds have profited off wars all over the globe, and conflict in the ME is no exception. BO is an emissary of darkness. I believe ultimately the light will prevail, but things could get pretty crazy. The Intl bankers have a habit of arming both sides of a conflict and no one can figure out what's happening through all the confusion. POTUS has been cozying up to the muslim brotherhood and petty dictators, while he had Rahm Emanuelle as Chief of Staff. These Globalists respect no sovereign borders or peoples and no loyalties to anyone but their bank accounts.
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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:06 AM
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A good Christian would turn his back on Israel, I'm sorry but what makes you think Israel is a saint?

You're a funny guy you know that.

edit: You make Israel seem more special than any other country. Israel has been digging its own grave for quite some time now.
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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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He is and would it really matter if he's not as the last time I chequed THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT EVER BEEN AND WILL NOT EVER BE A CHRISTIAN NATION.

See my thread from mid 2010 explaining this in detail :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hence why we are one of handful of nations who does not have nor endorses an Official State Religion.

The hatred can no longer be contained. Racism to it's finest.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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reply to post by Signals
 

Good.
If Israel is not a political issue then it's not our problem.

If you think you are gaining points here by touting the bible, then you clearly don't know this site well.

Its not America's job to enforce the bible. Infact we do quite the opposite in many different ways.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by Truther9111776
 


So...you would rather live in a nation that will be punished by God for turning it's back on Israel?


Israel does not own anyone or anything so get that straight right here right now and real quick.

We are not to just bow before the Israeli menace. God punishes nations that he feels are moving away from his direction and are usually directed at the shadow groups who want to enslave us all to remind them periodically who is firmly in charge. You know that the alien in your avatar is not Christian right but more then likely believes and follows a deity just like you and I.
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posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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I'm actually pretty happy with what Obama said, for once.
God Bless America!



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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More fool me, I thought you actually had evidence! But no, just a seethingly right wing opinion. First, as far as I understand what he said, it was not anti-Israel.
Second, supporting Israel politically is not proof of being Christian!
Vicky



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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How exactly is a Christian bound to protect Israel? Is that unique to your particular flavor of Christianity, or did I just overlook that rule while studying? Wasn't Jesus a little unhappy with what he saw happening within the Jewish faith back then?

Not that I care so much which religion Obama chooses, or you choose, or what any other person chooses. Not being a Christian is at the bottom of my list for why I won't vote for Obama when the time comes. However, throwing Israel to the wolves would help with gaining my vote.



posted on May, 20 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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If obama isn't religious that would make me like him even more.





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