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Inventors Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi announced the "E-CAT" in January claiming they had created a reactor that produces massive amounts of energy by fusing nickel and hydrogen nuclei at room temperature.
The latest tests on the energy catalyzer by NyTeknik took place in Bologna on April 19 and 28. The test, as with previous tests, aimed to measure the net energy that the device generates as accurately as possible. The results of the tests from both dates showed a developed net power of between 2.3 and 2.6 kilowatts with and input electric power of 300 watts. (www.nyteknik.se...)
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by DrakeDarc
Very cool that it is proving capable of overunity.
If enough energy starts coming from effectively free sources (the plenum would be optimal), the need for money will dissipate.
Dear Ing. Rossi: what are the (pre)conditions for entering the group of people that are doing a sort of beta testing of the E-cat, providing a STRICT Not disclosure agreement, where and if needed?
I can ensure that some accademics here in italy are really interested in a indipendent evaluation and some has the correct pedigree not only as for the field of application but for the human and social point of view.
One of these could be, Prof. U. Bardi of the University of Florence, Who has been deeply involved either on the topic of oil depletion (is the founder of aspo italia) and all the other main issues concerning the energy emergency in our little earth. Our association ha proved in the course of the years not to be easily muted or silenced by the main stream majors.
Besides that we are not afraid to put at test new ideas as proved, with the story of the cinquino elettrico ( you can check on internet about that, and of kitegen.
You could check as well by yourself about Aspo and Ugo Bardi.
Could we arrange something about having one of the prototipe and put it at work, as well as the others, at the University of Florence, department of chimics, under the responsibility of Prof. bardi?
Good, work, anyway,
Pietro Cambi
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Andrea Rossi
May 18th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Dear Dr Pietro Cambi:
We will not make any other validation test after the ones we already did. From November our products will be on the market. As for the R&D we already made an agreement with other Universities.
Warm regards,
A.R.
Q:Some good E-Cat trivia for the fans:
1. How many e-cats are in continuous operation today? [97]
2. How many geographic locations are e-cats running today? [4]
3. Are there any e-cats running in the US with businesses you own or individuals you trust? [Yes]
4. Any estimate on how much fuel has been spent over the life of your research? [Less than if I was taxist]
5. Is there anything confidential about how you use electrolysis for the reactor is is that industry standard technology? [I do not use electrolysis]
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How much do you pay for the agreement?
Cassarino: Unfortunately that’s confidential.
Have you paid anything to Rossi yet?
Cassarino: Yes we have.
How much?
Cassarino: Let’s put it like this, it was an important piece of the equation.
Originally posted by DrakeDarc
reply to post by boncho
Its being proved to work. The company NYTECNIK just tested it. Wheres the inclination of being a fraud coming from?
From the Company
The jury is still out on cold fusion. The US Navy has published an interesting paper, but nobody has confirmed it (that I'm aware of) and critics say they didn't rule out other sources for the high energy neutrons. So we'll see. Neutrons are hard to detect.
Originally posted by windus
Is cold fusion just as silly and invalid as that orgone energy nonsense or a variety of hackneyed Tesla side projects? Or is it just too difficult and expensive to be plausibly achieved by a small group of people like this.
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by DrakeDarc
Very cool that it is proving capable of overunity.
If enough energy starts coming from effectively free sources (the plenum would be optimal), the need for money will dissipate.
And when Rossi turns out to be a fraud... What then?
Cry suppression....
What will YOU do when Rossi turns out to be genuine?
Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by boncho
Rossi is not selling stock. He does not want investors. He wants customers and will guarantee his invention or the customer will not have to pay. He gets no money up front.
This doesn't sound like a scam to me.
Having read many LENR papers, I suspect that this is real. The theory won't be known for a while but the effect doesn't need a theory to work.
How much do you pay for the agreement?
Cassarino: Unfortunately that’s confidential.
Have you paid anything to Rossi yet?
Cassarino: Yes we have.
How much?
Cassarino: Let’s put it like this, it was an important piece of the equation.
I have some experience in business planning, and this business plan doesn't make much sense. In the business world i operate in, you develop the product first, then you sell and manufacture it. His timeline is very strange since he's manufacturing the generators, but also paying the university a fortune for development?
So far he says he has invested 500,000 Euros in developing and building 100 reactors, of ten kilowatts each, that comprise the Athens plant. He also claims that more than a thousand reactors have been built and destroyed during the development...From Leonardo Corporation Rossi is now paying the remaining 500,000 Euros to the Physics Department of Bologna University, following a new agreement under which the university will help Rossi with the continued development of the reactor and studies of its physical phenomena.