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1) Do you believe in democracy (in it's purest form - will of the majority)?
2) Do you believe in individual liberty so long as the individual causes no physical harm in doing so?
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
2) Do you believe in individual liberty so long as the individual causes no physical harm in doing so?
Yes more often than not. There are some small allowances that can be made for communal purposes, but those should be handled locally by the local people alone.
Originally posted by Cythraul
reply to post by woodwardjnr
Fair points all of them - but should we have been given a say?
Should we have been given the freedom to make the (in your eyes) wrong choice?
Originally posted by Cythraul
Thank you for your honest response.
However, I feel that on the subject of personal liberty - it's all or nothing. Otherwise society reaches a point where some people's freedoms are acceptable and others' aren't. The only way to solve this is to have a logical, set parameter. That parameter - in most historically free or libertarian nations, has been that you're free to do as you like so long as you do not harm or steal (as per the English Bill of Rights).
So with that in mind, do you support the right of people to be vocally racist, for example? I mean, I'm sure it would appal you, as it does me, but as far as the law is concerned, it must be permissible?
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by woodwardjnr
That is just the 'rationale' that they thought they could hide their real agenda behind - studies have comprehensively debunked the economic 'benefit' of mass immigration from third world countries.
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Lots of decisions have been made on our behalf in the past, unfortunately we can't change history. We go to wars that people dont vote for...
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
In my opinion, the short answer is yes. The people should be given a say in who is allowed to immigrate to their country.
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Using your Country for example.1 it is not Your Country ! 2 the Country does not belong to your Queen ! or your Government ! This world and it's rescources belongs to all living things equally .All living things have a birth right to access of free water for example ? So no government has a right to sieze it, and no councils have a right to charge you for it !
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
2) If you are a stranger in a strange land you gravitate to familiar people .For example you go from the UK to France on holliday.You are in a night club ,would you talk to the local's or do you gravitate to a table of English ? Can you see my point ?
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
No Government has the right to issue and enforce passports and immigration period ! Do migrating birds such as geese need passports when they cross borders ???
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
The whole immigration issue can be summed up under 2 banners ,1 racism or 2 protectionism .Racism, well we don't need to go there as that speaks for it's self .
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
OP you speak from the perspective of people comming into to your Country .That is a one sided argument , what about all the UK born that migrate out ? and there are just as many ! Do your own countrymen then, not put the same social pressures on those countries ?