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With or without U.S. support, the Palestinians are planning to take the matter to the United Nations General Assembly next September. The Palestinians are expected, by some rough estimates, to win 140 votes, whereas all they will need at the UN is 128 in order to declare the State of Palestine.
Obama can either sit back and watch it happen, veto it as the Israelis are asking or live up to his “Yes We Can” policy and put his full weight behind the Palestinians.
May 19th 2011:
President Obama says peace between Israelis and Palestinians will involve "two states for two peoples."
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama said.
I believe, at this time, if the UN votes this as a resolution that Obama will not veto. He can't back out on much more, if he plans to win in 2012.
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
Well if he plans to win going against the wishes of Israel is not the method to use.
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
As for enforcing it, good question, Israel is already ignoring plenty of UN sanctions... I'd suspect that to enforce this, against the will of ISrael, first, all aid would immediately cease, then possibly trade embargoes.
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersThe REAL question is how will Israel react to this? Who will they take the anger out on? Who will bear the brunt of this? I have my guesses.
1The [a]burden of the word of the LORD concerning Israel. Thus declares the LORD who (A)stretches out the heavens, (B)lays the foundation of the earth, and (C)forms the spirit of man within him, 2"Behold, I am going to make Jerusalem a (D)cup that causes reeling to all the peoples around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against (E)Judah. 3"It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy (F)stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be (G)severely injured And all the (H)nations of the earth will be gathered against it.
The major theme of the Bible's history is the loyalty of Judah, and especially its kings, to Yahweh, the god of Israel. According to the Bible all the kings of Israel, and almost all the kings of Judah, were "bad", which in terms of the Biblical history means that they failed to enforce worship of Yahweh alone. Of the "good" kings, Hezekiah (727-698 BC) is noted for his efforts at stamping out idolatry (in this case, the worship of Ba'alim and Asherah, among other traditional Near Eastern divinities);[5] but his successor Manasseh of Judah (698-642 BC) and Amon (642-640 BC) revived idolatry, drawing down on the kingdom the anger of Yahweh. King Josiah (640-609 BC) returned to the worship of Yahweh alone, but his efforts were too late, and Israel's unfaithfulness caused God to permit the kingdom's destruction by the Babylonians in c.587/586 BCE.
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
No member can veto a vote in the General Assembly. The General Assembly is where the vote on admitting Palestine as a full member of the UN will take place.
Nations can only veto in the Security Council, where they must be either a pemanent or guest member of the Security Council to do so.edit on 19-5-2011 by Peruvianmonk because: rephrasing