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Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by bluemirage5
I'm not American. I live in the same country you do.
These theories are more valid then the official story. Why? Becuase Buch, Cheney, the Shadow Government and Co had...
a) A motivation
b) Covered up the evidence
c) Would not allow any reputable independent enquiries or investigations into the events surrounding 9/11 or to the architectual collapse of the WTC.
The fact that three Mossad agents were arrested on the day of 9/11 filming and dancing while the trade towers collapsed, were aprehended, identified themselves as Israaeli's and were released thanks to the C.I.A should raise alarm bells in anyones head. If you can't make the distinctive link between the tragedy and 9/11 and Israel after sifting through the documents then you are on somthing not me.
I am not stating that there is any substantial proof that Israel was involved. What I am saying is that there was a coverup in regards to Mossads involvment or prior knowledge to the attacks. I am glad that you will continue to defer the argument by using ad hominem attacks, but I say if you aren't atleast skeptical of the official story then you are the one that deserves to be attacked in such an ad hominem measure.
If you want to prove that there is no proof of a cover up then sift through the documentation and reply with other sources and evidence debunking these documents. Of course you are either to scared to see it with you own eyes and create a synical image of Israel in your eyes or you just do not have the intellectual capability to debunk the documentation.
The easiest thing you could have immediately asked is what would Israel motive be and to that I would reply profit. Israel is a high tech based economy mostly exporting defence equipment, weapons, counter terrorism training and equipment, defence barriers, intellegence training and equipment. After the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent War on Terror aswell as the increase in terrorism, Israel economy boomed and expanded greatly. However I am still not stating that Israel ochestrated the attacks, I am stating there was a coverup in regards to Israel connection to 9/11 and that Israel greatly benefited from the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
Of course I have no doubt in my mind you will try to deflect my argument or simply reply with one sentence along the lines of "your crazy and you've proved nothing".
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
Where is there proof a bunch of Israelis were seen dancing? Got a video of the suspects doing the deed?
I'm telling you GWB and the Mossad were NOT involved in 9/11 in any shape or form. Now unless any of you have some absolute solid proof and evidence, I rest my case. You people can't go around making stupid accusations when you have nothing strong to back it up.
I've watched and read about all the evidence surrounding 9/11 and yes I too have alot of questions but what none of you have failed to mention is the 1400 vehicals found up to 7 blocks away from the WTC, destroyed. What you also probably don't know, those buildings did not collapse in free fall as you all claim, the steel turned to dust. That's right, the STEEL TURNED TO DUST !!! Now what kind of weapon would had done that? Not any nuclear device! Israel does not have such a weapon and neither did OBL. All you people go on about is the outragous idea of some explosive paint that was allegely painted on walls by some Mossad "agents" and other outragous allegations. Then there was a white van allegely filled with explosives driven by Israelis found hours later. Yes there was such a white van driven by Israelies but guess what.....no explosives were ever found in that van.....that was pure rumour. Perhaps you should had read more of the Police reports that followed. There was a claim by Govt that they sold alot of leftover steel from the WTC to China; I can tell you that never happened because there was almost no steel left. And while I'm at it; it there were explosives that ignited from below the WTC, explaint o me why the basins of the WTC was very much intact after 9/11??? Hmmmm, perhaps I read a different report to yours?
edit on 22-5-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Mandamus
As a day-old member to this forum, I first wish to commend Elliot for bringing these terms to readers attention:
Zionist vs. Jewish, because they are important and integral to U.S. foreign policy directives. One important aspect of internet research is the huge volume of material available on video. This medium is very compelling and, when combined with one's personal knowledge whether through books, education, travel, or personal work or general life experience, they all ideally supplement informed opinions based on established facts. Joe Biden has publicly admitted to being a zionist, and when I see a video of him stating it, well, that is very disturbing. Why?
The war in Iraq was conceived and executed in part by an influential block of State Department officials during the Clinton-Bush era ( PNAC Doctrine) who are dual citizens of Israel/ U.S. or are ardent unabashed supporters of Israel like Dick Cheney. What is most distinctive about a zionist is that they will never openly accept or acknowledge the terrorist crimes that Shin Bet and the IDF commit against anyone and everyone to further their agenda. They immediately dismiss Israel's involvement in 9-11 and, as you might guess, are rarely subjected to uncomfortable probing questions and interviews that would embarrass their positions. Helen Thomas knows that very well. So to avoid being long-winded and wrap this up, I respect and admire the works of many American journalists and authors by the quality of their message and their loyalty to this country, my country, the USA. Many of them have jewish surnames, I don't care Danny Schecter (Plunder: The Crime of Our Time)
and Stephen Lendman of Chicago are loyal Americans and don't hesitate to criticize Israel. When an American Ambassador to Yemen ( Barbara Bodine) obstructs an FBI agent's ((John P. O'Neill) investigation into a terrorist bombing that kills American sailors, well, there is NEVER a good reason to do this. It's called treason, and many zionists in our government are guilty as hell of this. Even Colin Powell dirtied his hands for this group.
----My point is this: America wake-up! We are being destroyed by policies favorable to zionists, certainly not to America!
Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
If Israel had anything to do with 9/11 (that is if it wasn't under the CIA's orders), the American government would have figured it all out in a week, and would have kicked Israel's ass for it.
Remember what happened when the Mossad used British passports for one of their hits?
Friends or no friends, a direct assault is not something you keep quiet about.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Lynda101
Re these passports:
Every intelligence organisation around the world uses fake passports. I'm not the one who has an issue with these organisations doing as such when going after well known cold blooded terrorists and eliminating him or her; whether thats CIA, Mossad, M15 or any other agency. Good for them! You should be proud these organisations are keeping us safe for another day!