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Google boss: anti-piracy laws would be disaster for free speech

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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Google boss: anti-piracy laws would be disaster for free speech


www.guardian.co.uk

Google's executive chairman, Eric Schmidt, warned on Wednesday that government plans to block access to illicit filesharing websites could set a "disastrous precedent" for freedom of speech.
(visit the link for the full news article)


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torrentfreak.com




posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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A big hell yes to google, i find it very surprising they would make this move. I hope with these actions it will push for more people speaking up for the freedom of the internet. Many people believe google is in bed with TPTB, but this definitely sheds new light on google.

Does this change you opinion of google? Its definatly changed mine a bit.

I hope the United States, UK, and other countries will realize they are being just like china blocking DNS on something their country does not own, can't wait to see what comes out of this.

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Why do I have a feeling this has something to do with Modzillas statements?

Or is it just me?

Time for bed?


Change my opinion?- No..not yet. I smell something fishy going on with both of these companies.
edit on 19-5-2011 by Common Good because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Wouldn't expect Google to come out with something like that, glad that they did, but I expect they get a lot of traffic through people searching for pirate material.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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You can download movies and shows from places like Loombo using Downloadhelper. If the toolbar icon doesn't "lite up", just right click on it and it will grab the stream so you can then left click and save. No, it isn't HD. But it is as good a quality as any other 800mb .avi movie. And RIAA will be none the wiser.

Just sayin'.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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People will always find a way to get this stuff for free anyway, the government shutting down or censoring a few websites isn't going to make a difference to the fact that If a friend of mine buys or downloads or get's sent a new album or whatever he can just email it to me and I have it as well.

I've never used torrents either, simply because it's so easy to find this content (movies and music) streaming on the internet anyway.


edit on 19-5-2011 by lifeissacred because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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The more government gets involved in the internet the more freedoms we all lose.

Next step our fine government will take will deliver a crushing blow to free websites, including ATS, where the ability to sustain a website with marginal to high traffic will be virtually eliminated through overkill regulations on advertising.

Learn to say goodbye to the sites you love, along with the ones that you don't.

Fear not, the major MSM sites will survive, and there is always the option for sites like ATS to survive this by required paid subscription for its members, and all who may want to access content, with a kind of pay per view option.



Are you all able to begin to visualize the internet they will impose on you soon through their laws and legislation yet?


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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Exactly this is why Bill Clinton wants to initiate the Ministry of Truth yes i said it 1984 THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH
Bill Clinton Wants Ministry of Truth Formed

edit on 19-5-2011 by XRaDiiX because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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On another note, a reaction from MPAA...

www.slyck.com...



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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freedom of speech is 1 thing but if your using those file sharing sites for illegal use thats another. im all about free speech but if what your doing or saying is hurting some1 else weather it be physical, mental, or economical you and any1 else should be held accountable and thats where file sharing sites have a loop hole in the system. and it needs to be delt with. free speech should be like it was back in the day in your face not hiding behind a keyboard.

im adding this if u think getten a bootleg of a movie b4 its out of theaters free speech ur f%@(ing retarded.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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What PIPA would create is the Great Firewall of America. US authorities, on the behest of a copyright complaint or other legal action, or even their own behest, can file an action to force DNS (Directory Name Service) providers to block certain websites deemed infringing. You see, when you enter a domain name in your browser, it needs to know the IP address of the website - a domain name (say, Slyck.com), means nothing to FireFox. It needs to talk to the DNS provider first, reference the domain name to the IP address, and bam - you're connected. One of the provisions of PIPA would prevent this from happening (but you can still connect via the sites IP address...)

Also being targeted are credit card processors and "search interactive services". That means sites like Google could also be forced to remove or block content - something Google flipped out about yesterday. From Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt:


All they have to do to silence any site they don't like is to claim it is used for piracy, and add it to the great firewall of china, I mean america. Bad news, And besides, torrents are used for many legal means as well.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by doom27


Many people believe google is in bed with TPTB, but this definitely sheds new light on google.

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


not really - thats the google tactic...the dont breach the barriers of privacy, the just step close to the border - this pr stunt gives them some new space because people like you think now google is in some way interested in freedom of speech...

related to my post: facebooks tactic is two step for - one step back...they breach barriers and then slowly reduce their "techniques" again (if nessecary because the topic remains critiv ON FACEBOOK)

für alle deutsch sprechenden menschen hier ein interview mit dem CCC zu dem thema - sehr aufschlussreich
www.ndr.de...
Interview mit Frank Rieger (Chaos Computer Club) zum Zapp-Beitrag "Arroganz von Facebook & Co".
edit on 19-5-2011 by Hessdalen because: grammer



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by SpunGCake
freedom of speech is 1 thing but if your using those file sharing sites for illegal use thats another. im all about free speech but if what your doing or saying is hurting some1 else weather it be physical, mental, or economical you and any1 else should be held accountable and thats where file sharing sites have a loop hole in the system. and it needs to be delt with. free speech should be like it was back in the day in your face not hiding behind a keyboard.

im adding this if u think getten a bootleg of a movie b4 its out of theaters free speech ur f%@(ing retarded.
edit on 19-5-2011 by SpunGCake because: (no reason given)


The government would block alternative news sources (ie this site) way before they would stop you from downloading the little mermaid. "hiding" behind a keyboard is trumped by the mask of good faith that our government wears when destroying our rights.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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What does copyright infringement have to do with freedom of speech?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by SpunGCake
 



What PIPA would create is the Great Firewall of America. US authorities, on the behest of a copyright complaint or other legal action, or even their own behest, can file an action to force DNS (Directory Name Service) providers to block certain websites deemed infringing. You see, when you enter a domain name in your browser, it needs to know the IP address of the website - a domain name (say, Slyck.com), means nothing to FireFox. It needs to talk to the DNS provider first, reference the domain name to the IP address, and bam - you're connected. One of the provisions of PIPA would prevent this from happening (but you can still connect via the sites IP address...)

Also being targeted are credit card processors and "search interactive services". That means sites like Google could also be forced to remove or block content - something Google flipped out about yesterday. From Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt:


All they have to do to silence any site they don't like is to claim it is used for piracy, and add it to the great firewall of china, I mean america. Bad news, And besides, torrents are used for many legal means as well.


Torrenting is perfectly legal it's what you torrent that makes it legal or illegal.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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well be honest. people usally use those sites for downloding multiple files so there not considered to b breaking copyright laws, more often than not its for downloading bootleg material. but there is a darker side to these sites that people fail to see.

ill use a topic that was posted yesterday
a man was arrested for placing a video camera in a starbucks bathroom filming 45 wemon and children. its also people like that that use these sites and other types of file sharing.

i agree i dont want my ats being shut down but there has to be more safeguards set to punish people that use the net in a negative manner. its just getten worse and going to unless something is done about it.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Well, last I checked, no major torrent sites allow anything even borderline child pornography....



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The more government gets involved in the internet the more freedoms we all lose.

Next step our fine government will take will deliver a crushing blow to free websites, including ATS, where the ability to sustain a website with marginal to high traffic will be virtually eliminated through overkill regulations on advertising.

Learn to say goodbye to the sites you love, along with the ones that you don't.

edit on 19-5-2011 by Fractured.Facade because: (no reason given)


didnt the already do something similar a while back with small internet radio stations??

I remember there was a great one i used to listen to that was in America and they only had 2 DJ's that came on like 3 times a week but the rest of the time all the songs that were played were user selected via the websites request list. Fantastic site it was but then they were shut down like many other radio sites of the same ilk.

They were asking people to write to thier congressmen to fight against it but not being an American that option was not open to me.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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as far as i know its because bit torrent is basicly a file broken into multipul files that makes it so the site itself isnt doing anything illegal. but it is.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by SpunGCake
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well be honest. people usally use those sites for downloding multiple files so there not considered to b breaking copyright laws, more often than not its for downloading bootleg material. but there is a darker side to these sites that people fail to see.

ill use a topic that was posted yesterday
a man was arrested for placing a video camera in a starbucks bathroom filming 45 wemon and children. its also people like that that use these sites and other types of file sharing.

i agree i dont want my ats being shut down but there has to be more safeguards set to punish people that use the net in a negative manner. its just getten worse and going to unless something is done about it.


Umm...no they don't. Child porn can readily be found on various BBS sites (4chan is known for it) and "Tube" sites (Redtube, etc).

That is why you don't go to porn tube sites unless you are feeling risky.

But, since we are bringing up other topics...the REAL dark side is the way that the FBI encourages child porn so that they can catch a predator. Same with drugs. "They" are the main providers.



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