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Ron Paul: U.S. May Try to Occupy Pakistan

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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Laxpla
 


So your saying a bully only picks on weaker people is that right? A bully will never pick on a person who can actually fight back is that correct?


Which is it? Are we Bullies or Pussies?

To answer your question - of course bullies pick on those that cant fight back - Did you not see the viral YouTube hit a few weeks back?

A better question would be - Did your parents have any kids that lived?
edit on 19-5-2011 by CayceFan because: (no reason given)




posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by TheLieWeLive

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
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Lithium. Cadmium. Titanium. Precious metals. Precious stones. Uranium. Tons of minerals, metals, etc.

An ounce of gold is well over $1000 an ounce. Meanwhile a 55 gallon drum of crude oil is $90.


A lot of resources but not a one of them you are using to live. I didn't say there aren't other resources in the world that aren't valuable. So a 55 gallon drum of crude is $90 bucks? Take any of the resources you mentioned away and you still thrive today. Now take the oil away and watch how fast you dwindle. Look up the uses for the resources you mentioned then compare that to oil.

Oh you forgot the Opium from Afghanistan since you mentioned the Lithium.


Not true. Metals such as gold, silver, copper & etc. play a big role in how we "thrive" today. Everything from Automobiles, to Air conditioners, hot water and just about anything you can think of with even a simple circuit rely on such metals.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by CayceFan

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by beezzer
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So you equate bravery with fighting a country that is a nuclear power.
Good lord!
Nukes are a political weapon Scooter, not a battlefield tool.


Yes, even the big ole USA still needed help invading rag-tag third world Afghan:


Seriously bunch of opium farmers and the USA still needs help? Why don't the USA invade china, gimme a real war, not some baby war.


Just so I'm clear Scooter (thanks to the other poster for tagging you this name), you think because the US had help that means that the US needed help? Surely you're not that dumb.



No we don't need help, but under UN charters, we have to have %'s of each country that are members of the UN.

Article 41:


The Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use of armed force are to be employed to give effect to its decisions, and it may call upon the Members of the United Nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance of diplomatic relations.


Article 42:

Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.


Heres the key one though:

Article 43:

All Members of the United Nations, in order to contribute to the maintenance of international peace and security, undertake to make available to the Security Council, on its call and in accordance with a special agreement or agreements, armed forces, assistance, and facilities, including rights of passage, necessary for the purpose of maintaining international peace and security.

Such agreement or agreements shall govern the numbers and types of forces, their degree of readiness and general location, and the nature of the facilities and assistance to be provided.

The agreement or agreements shall be negotiated as soon as possible on the initiative of the Security Council. They shall be concluded between the Security Council and Members or between the Security Council and groups of Members and shall be subject to ratification by the signatory states in accordance with their respective constitutional processes.


www.un.org...

Then to top it all off, this is why Congressional approval was not needed for the invasion of Libya ( as an example):

§ 287d


The President shall not be deemed to require the authorization of the Congress to make available to the Security Council on its call in order to take action under article 42 of said Charter and pursuant to such special agreement or agreements the armed forces, facilities, or assistance provided for therein:



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by CayceFan

Originally posted by TheLieWeLive

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by TheLieWeLive
 


Lithium. Cadmium. Titanium. Precious metals. Precious stones. Uranium. Tons of minerals, metals, etc.

An ounce of gold is well over $1000 an ounce. Meanwhile a 55 gallon drum of crude oil is $90.


A lot of resources but not a one of them you are using to live. I didn't say there aren't other resources in the world that aren't valuable. So a 55 gallon drum of crude is $90 bucks? Take any of the resources you mentioned away and you still thrive today. Now take the oil away and watch how fast you dwindle. Look up the uses for the resources you mentioned then compare that to oil.

Oh you forgot the Opium from Afghanistan since you mentioned the Lithium.


Not true. Metals such as gold, silver, copper & etc. play a big role in how we "thrive" today. Everything from Automobiles, to Air conditioners, hot water and just about anything you can think of with even a simple circuit rely on such metals.


100% correct! Isn't it amazing how many people fail to see the value of tangible assets?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by CayceFan

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Laxpla
 


So your saying a bully only picks on weaker people is that right? A bully will never pick on a person who can actually fight back is that correct?


Which is it? Are we Bullies or Pussies?

To answer your question - of course bullies pick on those that can fight back - Did you not see the viral YouTube hit a few weeks back?

A better question would be - Did your parents have any kids that lived?


Bullies only pick on people who cant fight back, that is what makes the USA a pu***y. We are picking on a third world rag-tag afghan.

Oh by the way your new name is uberretardo. Repeat after me: uber, then retardo. Repeat. Now go get a bone, good little boy.


Not that it really matters but like I already stated you're wrong. Just look for the video I mentioned for your proof.

Lets apply your statement to real life though - didn't you post death tolls a few post back? Are we to believe that those were all friendly fire and accidental deaths or was it from the enemy "fighting back?"

Epic fail Scooter!



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Until I see someone call our bluff, there is no basis to call us cowards.

Now if we stand toe to toe with Russia or China and we flinch, I will be the first on here to say our bluff was called and our bark is louder than our bite.

On the other hand as long as Russia and China keep flinching, no one has any room to call the US cowards.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
 


Until I see someone call our bluff, there is no basis to call us cowards.

Now if we stand toe to toe with Russia or China and we flinch, I will be the first on here to say our bluff was called and our bark is louder than our bite.

On the other hand as long as Russia and China keep flinching, no one has any room to call the US cowards.


Very good point. It would seem, at the current moment, that no one is willing to stand up to big bad US. In fear of the lynch mob to come!



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Hey uberretardo, how man countires has the US invaded without assistance that had the ability to fight back? None reallly. Why hasnt the USA invaded lets say, china? Oh wait, cause it will be a real war, not a baby war lmao.

Good job uberretardo, you proved my point.

Sincerely, your father



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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How come the US forces are still fighting in Afghanistan? Meaning they still haven't won.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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how man countires


May I suggest learning how to spell before personally attacking someone? You're only making yourself look bad.

Its " how many countries", not " how man countires"?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Realms
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how man countires


May I suggest learning how to spell before personally attacking someone? You're only making yourself look bad.

Its " how many countries", not " how man countires"?


Ooh typo. Big catch there, its almost as big as capturing a circuit failure on a multi-billion dollar space weapon system. Your hired. Seriously is this english class?
edit on 19-5-2011 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by Realms
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how man countires


May I suggest learning how to spell before personally attacking someone? You're only making yourself look bad.

Its " how many countries", not " how man countires"?


Ooh typo. Big catch there, its almost as big as capturing a circuit failure on a multi-billion dollar space weapon system. Your hired. Seriously is this english class?
edit on 19-5-2011 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)



Don't get your panties in a bunch. I was simply suggesting that if your going to attack someone, you might as well spell things correctly as to not make yourself look like an ass, ( a little late though ).



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by CayceFan
 


Hey uberretardo, how man countires has the US invaded without assistance that had the ability to fight back? None reallly. Why hasnt the USA invaded lets say, china? Oh wait, cause it will be a real war, not a baby war lmao.

Good job uberretardo, you proved my point.

Sincerely, your father


If the answer was 300 or if it was 0 how would that prove any of the diarrhea spewing from your mouth?

When given the choice to go to battle alone or with allies smart money always goes with help. Going to battle with help is not a sign of weakness, its a sign of strength.

Why would the US invade China?

Whats your definition of a real war?

Even if your idiotic statement regardin the US being pussies were true - what would be your point? That you continue to reside in a country that you have no respect for, why? Is it because your an idiot or a pussy? Maybe it's both.

Its probably too complex for you to understand but try and have the neighbors kid explain it to you Scooter.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Now that you have graduated to the ability to read my posts, let me give you a cracker.

The reason the US wont start a war with a big country is because we are pu&&ies plain and simple. We like to go pick on aghanistan and run home and post youtube videos making ourselves look tough by killing a bunch of opium farmers, its not even a country that has a modern army lmao. That is the very essence of pu&&iness.

Seriously what is your education level? Do you even have a professional degree like me?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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It is not necessarily to spell things correctly here. I was corrected for spelling in English composition in college. I wont be penalized for it here, neither does my career depend on it..



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by MikeboydUS
 


How come the US forces are still fighting in Afghanistan? Meaning they still haven't won.


How come?

We havn't invaded Pakistan...yet.

I could ask what is Russia's deal with Chechnya, they have been trying to secure it now for what 16 years, an area the size of Maryland. I won't though. Because I know that fighting an asymmetric war is not easy or quick. It takes a generation and much resolve to fight such a war. Russia will secure Chechnya and we will secure Afghanistan.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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The US also likes to form coalitions to use cost sharing.

War is expensive, why go alone (and pay alone) if you don't have to?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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I doub't russia could secure chechnya if they havent done so in 16 years. Afghanistan has not been secured after 10 years with the worlds most powerful forces what makes you think it will be done soon, before next election? It is emabrrassing for the USA to lose people to a bunch of opium farmers. Seriously its like killing a kid and saying how tough you are. If I wanted to be tough I would be able to invade turkey and rename it chicken and make everyone walk like chickens. Now people would respect you. People in afghanistan are fighters and the US and coalition forces have been their for 10 years almost and still taking fire.

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by CayceFan
 


Now that you have graduated to the ability to read my posts, let me give you a cracker.

The reason the US wont start a war with a big country is because we are pu&&ies plain and simple. We like to go pick on aghanistan and run home and post youtube videos making ourselves look tough by killing a bunch of opium farmers, its not even a country that has a modern army lmao. That is the very essence of pu&&iness.

Seriously what is your education level? Do you even have a professional degree like me?




So that's the reason huh? Thank you for using your simple mind to make it so simple for the rest of us!

One thing we can agree on - you probably are an expert of the Art and "essence of pussiness!"



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