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reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 05:34 PM by bronco73
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by BobAthome
So how is this un-democracratic?


In Canada it isn't "undemocratic". But hypocrisy it is. Hypocrisy:

noun

behavior in which someone claims to have certain moral principles or beliefs but behaves in a way that shows they are not sincere


www.onelook.com...

And does knowone here not remember P.E.T ? (<---if u ask don't bother). too young or if young and know fine


Please. Harper isn't worthy of washing Trudeau's jock strap. On ANY given level. That said I voted for him AND against him. Once each.


This has got to be the most disguisting thing I have ever read in this forum. Trudeau, the guy who brought in the hated NEP, the guy who supported the FLQ, the guy who wrote papers on separating Quebec, the guy who put this country into such a financial bind that the IMF was about to step in to take over the Canadian dollar. It took well over 20 years to fix the financial mess that Trudeau left this country in, and had it not been for the GST that everybody hated (until the Liberals changed face and suddenly started liking it of course), then this country would be currently destitute and would be ran by the International Monetary Fund.

Trudeau was THE worst thing to have ever happened to Canada, and he left a mess that took three decades to repair.

"The disastrous Legacy of Pierre Elliott Trudeau": www.financialpost.com...


reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 06:31 PM by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by bronco73



I CAN blame him for that and I do. He consistently railed against the appointment of senators and promised change. He had the opportunity to do what the Liberals did not, to be "the better man." Instead he continued the legacy of cronyism and did not even have the courage to stand up and discuss it in front of the nation.


reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 10:08 PM by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by UcDat



I think the biggest problem was really low turnout. I do understand people who become disillusioned and ony many days I think it makes no difference, but it would be nice if more people would have gone out to rid us of this guy. Lib and Con may be the same, but Harper is worse than most.


reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 01:11 AM by bronco73
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
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post by bronco73



I CAN blame him for that and I do. He consistently railed against the appointment of senators and promised change. He had the opportunity to do what the Liberals did not, to be "the better man." Instead he continued the legacy of cronyism and did not even have the courage to stand up and discuss it in front of the nation.


However, with the opposition voting down the proposed senate changes and the Liberal dominated senate vetoing the one that passed, Harper was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either appoint, or leave the seats vacant. Leaving them vacant would keep a Liberal dominated senate with empty seats during a tumultuous minority government. Had he lost the next election we could have seen a Liberal government with a liberal dominated senate, and more Liberal appointed senators. Not a good looking future if you're a Conservative.

He still wants elected senators. He still wants term limits. Before this recent election he was stonewalled into keeping things in the senate as they were, with a possible election or coalition in the near future. Now that he is in the drivers seat we will see the changes that he wanted. Funny that nobody that supports the Libs wanted these changes made until the Liberal senators became outnumbered.
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reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 01:12 AM by UcDat
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yep another great canadian hero but not the last to fall

still the pq defeat was more about the rampent corruption. I dont see how the cons got so many votes in BC tho alberta is in the conservatives pockets as long as the oil keeps flowing. Even if its 90% into the pockets of the Elites pockets who own our secretive above the law government... Dont see how they did so well in BC and Ontario. Libs and cons should of been all but wiped out.
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