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13...now 14 Threads on the President of the United State's birth certificate!

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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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I think the birthers are plenty smart enough to be able to handle all the information in one thread.


Just to be fair. Actually he may have had a point about being able to handle that much information about one single topic in one thread.




posted on May, 19 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Just to be fair. Actually he may have had a point about being able to handle that much information about one single topic in one thread.


Well that's a tough call, I can easily see a whole Obama forum section being put up, I can also see all Birth Certificate content merged into 1 thread as it's a single issue, where as there are plenty of issues with Obama himself other than the BC issue.

The amount of BC content, if distilled down to the main objections with the BC instead of the constantly repeated information, could easily fit into a single thread. Yes there are a bunch of threads with tons of posts, but 99% of that is bickering and name calling, the rest is that 1% of information that keeps getting recycled.

For the sake of EASE for everyone involved I'd suggest an 'Obama' forum. Then again, should the site even have a section dedicated to a single person? I'm not sure how manageable that will become as some would simply use it as a sounding board instead of the rant section, to rail against Obama for whatever reasons.

Something has to be done as the boards are getting cluttered, I think the OPs suggestion of a sticky thread might work for the BC specifically, but it might be more manageable to just create an entire Obama section, keeping all the related content in there, thus allowing the rest of us some peace and a break from this, and still allowing as many threads as these people want to open. This, in my opinion, would be a compromise on both sides and be the best for the site before the coming torrent of political commentary as we approach the election.

No one is asking the site to censor anyone, no one is asking anyone to stifle someone's "free speech" but you've also got to remember that, when dealing with content on the internet, and a privately run, for profit site specifically, you have no rights. You have no rights but what are laid out for you in the T&C. You have absolutely NO expectation of "freedom of speech" on a website message board, you don't, the site owners reserve the right to deem what is suitable for the site. Thankfully this community is run as such as to make every attempt to allow for freedom while keeping within reasonable (for the most part) boundaries.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
Well that's a tough call, I can easily see a whole Obama forum section being put up, I can also see all Birth Certificate content merged into 1 thread as it's a single issue, where as there are plenty of issues with Obama himself other than the BC issue.


I feel pretty safe betting that if the average birther was smart enough to deal with more than one aspect of a topic in one thread then there would not be well over 100 birther threads with most of them being duplicates of one another. I was just commenting on what I see. Most forums get dupes closed fast. This birther stuff gets 10 threads for one single youtube clip so it must be for a reason. Sometimes you give out plastic silverware because it is a picnic. Sometimes you do it because you do not want anyone to hurt themselves trying to aim for their mouth all on their own.

Kind of why we have this OP pointing out that sad little fact.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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hmm, maybe you didn't actually understand what I posted above, read your u2u, I'm agreeing with you that the same content gets regurgitated over and over so at the very least creating an entire forum would clear the rest of the forums of this topic. Moving all BC related content into 1 thread is also possible.

All I'm saying is I can see a fair argument FOR creating a single BC thread, and I can also see a fair argument for creating an entire forum instead of limiting it to a single thread.




I feel pretty safe betting that if the average birther was smart enough to deal with more than one aspect of a topic in one thread then there would not be well over 100 birther threads with most of them being duplicates of one another.


Which is exactly why I said I see a fair argument for creating a separate forum like we did with Japan for that specific reason, I'm just not going to resort to attacking them personally or their intelligence, it's not needed and goes against the very T&C i'm asking be applied to those topics.

In reality, as I've said 3 times now, the actual BC related content is so tiny that it could EASILY be a single thread, but I just don't see that working, specifically because of the constant bickering back and forth. It can also be looked at, from their point of view, as singling them out and trying to "silence them" which I obviously do not support.

Seeing as I agree with you on all points except insulting their intelligence, I'm not entirely sure what your problem is with what I have said.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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If you are so fed up with all of this, Why do you keep knocking on the same door day in and day out? Personal quest? Seeking Justice? or just to derail and nit pick each post one at a time.

The issue is not going away anytime soon as long as the WH administration continues to fan the flames. Perhaps you can share your ideas with the administration of this site. Eh, sinnthia?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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i don't understand why people are still goin on and on about this issue anymore. Even if it is a fake BC theres nothing any of us can do about it. So many people are saying "its fake" bla bla bla....ok then why don't you guys do something about it and get him out of office!



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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I believe the reason why people feel the need to keep going on and on about the BC, SS#, etc is because ATS provides them a way of dealing with there frustration and there feeling of powerlessness on this topic as well as other topics.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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I'd have to support the idea of a forum - with subtopics. New "revelations" about the BC come about with some frequency and they could be - each - their own threads. This would (in theory) help to keep the thread "centered" on the specific topic. Ex.:

1 - Layers
2 - pixelation Issues
3 - Typography
4 - etc.

One thread with everything including the kitchen sink is just too unwieldly to navigate and guarantees the repost of info previously addressed earlier on in the thread. Being that people are people and we all have a bit of a lazy side to us, I see this as an unavoidable consequence to a huge "super" thread - as we've already seen in many of the larger posts on this topic.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Your only contributing to the spam in this section by posting this garbage thread. This thread should be placed in the Rants section of this website.

-Alien



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
Well that's a tough call, I can easily see a whole Obama forum section being put up, I can also see all Birth Certificate content merged into 1 thread as it's a single issue, where as there are plenty of issues with Obama himself other than the BC issue.


I feel pretty safe betting that if the average birther was smart enough to deal with more than one aspect of a topic in one thread then there would not be well over 100 birther threads with most of them being duplicates of one another. I was just commenting on what I see. Most forums get dupes closed fast. This birther stuff gets 10 threads for one single youtube clip so it must be for a reason. Sometimes you give out plastic silverware because it is a picnic. Sometimes you do it because you do not want anyone to hurt themselves trying to aim for their mouth all on their own.

Kind of why we have this OP pointing out that sad little fact.


A birther being "smart enough to deal with more than one aspect of a topic"???? Any person with common sense can see this statement for what it is, a smug insult based on liberal bias. And to think that last night I would have given you credit at least for believing your Socialist agenda is good for the country.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by relocator
I believe the reason why people feel the need to keep going on and on about the BC, SS#, etc is because ATS provides them a way of dealing with there frustration and there feeling of powerlessness on this topic as well as other topics.


In my opinion, it is not just the birther issue that people feel powerless about. The entire conglomerate of issues relating to the NWO Elite is overwhelming in its scope. The Power Elite have their fngers in every pie, and the average person cannot fathom how far the rabbit hole goes. These people sit around in their think tanks and discuss their agendas all day long for hours, and do we think the average person can just sort it out?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Is Runaway another nickname for Sinnthia? hahahaha I should have known.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
Well that's a tough call, I can easily see a whole Obama forum section being put up, I can also see all Birth Certificate content merged into 1 thread as it's a single issue, where as there are plenty of issues with Obama himself other than the BC issue.


I feel pretty safe betting that if the average birther was smart enough to deal with more than one aspect of a topic in one thread then there would not be well over 100 birther threads with most of them being duplicates of one another. I was just commenting on what I see. Most forums get dupes closed fast. This birther stuff gets 10 threads for one single youtube clip so it must be for a reason. Sometimes you give out plastic silverware because it is a picnic. Sometimes you do it because you do not want anyone to hurt themselves trying to aim for their mouth all on their own.

Kind of why we have this OP pointing out that sad little fact.


And funny, it's you on every thread still trying to debunk the birthers. Don't you get sick of trying?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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All I have to say to you Runaway(or is it Sinnthia) is your bias is entirely liberal. I do not see anything impartial in your debates.I can just look at a few of your posts and know your mindset is Huffpo/DailyKos/MediaMatters/FactChect ad nauseum even if you say your opinion is your own. I bet there's a little of Ed Schultz in there too, a little Rachel maddow, a little Jon Stewart maybe. I see liberal talking points in everything you say. At least I have admitted that Republicans are almost as liberal as the liberals these days. That is why neither party is based on the original Founding Father's vision. It has been so degraded over the last century with excessive Statism.
You are a Statist through and through. Anything private bothers you.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by kerazeesicko
 


Ahhh but all ive seen from this bunch here is DailyKos, Huffpo, Fact Check(Bill Ayers Annenberg) Snopes, Media Matters, etc. all Soros outlets. Who are you people kidding here?

Of course, no good words for the other blog .... as it doesn't suit the liberal bias


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Snopes is impartial to the core. No political enterprise owns or controls Snopes.

Stop pushing the "Left-v-Right" paradigm. as everytime you do your credibility gets shattered and you lose your platform.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Runaway1977
 


All I have to say to you Runaway(or is it Sinnthia) is your bias is entirely liberal. I do not see anything impartial in your debates.I can just look at a few of your posts and know your mindset is Huffpo/DailyKos/MediaMatters/FactChect ad nauseum even if you say your opinion is your own. I bet there's a little of Ed Schultz in there too, a little Rachel maddow, a little Jon Stewart maybe. I see liberal talking points in everything you say. At least I have admitted that Republicans are almost as liberal as the liberals these days. That is why neither party is based on the original Founding Father's vision. It has been so degraded over the last century with excessive Statism.
You are a Statist through and through. Anything private bothers you.


We have no biased as our biased is only for The USA which is where our final allegiance lies. It is you who loves to put nation above party each and every time. Our bias is based in logic, reality and common sense.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Is this the twilight zone or something?

I really don't care about a piece of paper.

I'm asking others why THEY care because they're getting distracted, not me.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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No one is advocating censorship.

We are advocating COMMON SENSE.

You do not need 20 threads on the SAME GODFORSAKEN SUBJECT! What part of the T&C do you not understand?

Birthers wonder why no one likes them. It's because they're bunch of cave-dwelling, knuckle-dragging morons!



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Thats completely uncalled for statement and will be reported for a T and C violation i consider you take my advice and adhere to the T and C because that is clearly a violation and an obscenely bigoted statement; you just made.

The reason Birther Threads deserve multiple threads is because there is multiple different discrepancies and subjects on the matter.

If you don't like; too bad i guess the mods seem to allow multiple birther threads on the notion that they have merit and validity to persist based on the variation of different evidential arguments on the subject matter at hand.

You're post will be reported because i found it extremely insulting.




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