13...now 14 Threads on the President of the United State's birth certificate!

Originally posted by Ex_CT2
But back on topic....

Could we have just one sticky thread?

I'd be happy to give them their own folder.

reply to post by The Old American


THIS.

Why can't the mods listen and do this already? It would seriously cut back on the birther clutter. Add an option to block that entire forum and problem solved.

It's an issue that has been beaten to death harder than a horse. Most people are already aware of it and yet, there are new threads being created all the time with the same parroted information.

13...14?

I stopped going through search results on the tenth page. There are literally hundreds of threads on this topic on ATS. Hundreds. This is beyond a distraction. I am pretty sure this is all ATS really has to offer. The front page has nothing but about every 10 threads there is some birther craziness that is sure to be fun to watch.

I admire your point, I really do but there are way more than 13 or 14 so I agree with you more than even you do.

reply to post by The Sword


One reason.

Unique visitor count.

Originally posted by Sly1one
so you suppose that an issue that is apparently bringing up 13 to 14 threads be consolidated into one mega -thread? One that would inevitably be so high traffic that anything you respond to will be 3 pages back in the thread by the time it gets posted?

Most of the threads are on the same topic, the same information, and sometimes exactly the same post. One poster posted the exact same thing in 3 different birther threads because he said he was worried it might not get noticed.

The funny thing about these threads is that Obama is still POTUS, and will still finish out his term. There are a number of people with the support/funds to bring to light if he is a fraud. Im still waiting for that to be done conclusively, an that should speak volumes as to his eligibility as POTUS.

reply to post by Runaway1977


So, the mods would rather have more garbage on this site than quality posts?

The post count limit is a joke since most people will spam, spam and spam until they can create their own stupid, worthless threads.

Cry about me all you want ATS but you know it's true.

reply to post by Naptown317


Does your life depend on it? Nope.

The real conspiracy here is the whole birth certificate issue.

Don't people realize that Obama is literally using it AGAINST his detractors? By getting hung up on this issue, you're only adding fuel to the fire.

To the bc deniers,

Tell us how you really feel and please form an original thought.

All,

This is all about racism and nothing else. A Black man is in the WH and these people cannot stand it. If not that then what is it? Nothing.

A highly respected SuperMod by the name of AshleyD disproved the claim of it being fake. Many here have proven it as being real so what is there to not get?

To start 10 new threads a day on this same topic confirms the lack of a thinking brain in this entire group, btw, if this was occuring on other forums each would've gotten shut down and the posters banned but for some moronic reason ATS seems to be lying down for them, what gives ATS?

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


Some people just enjoy living in denial/ignorance.

They aren't yet ready to deal with the real world like the rest of us, hence their insistence on beating this horse into a pulp.

There are a million other reasons not to support Obama. If not the bc, there are other issues that will hurt him politically, such as our continued insistence on policing the world (Pakistan, anyone?) and the debt ceiling issue.

Originally posted by The Sword
There are a million other reasons not to support Obama.

Exactly.

Nothing says more about the birthers or this welcome embrace of them than that right there.

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Carseller4

 

That has nothing to do with my OP...

But it should answer your question.

The birthers are rabid. They will denounce any evidence presented, fill up thread after thread with the same debunked claims, and generally bog down any attempt at political discourse with their nonsense.

It's all one big joke, and I'm beginning to think it was intentional to distract the rabble from discussing any real issues.

Ok let's discuss the issues then. Here's a short list of some of mine
1)The Affordable Health Care Act lovingly referred to as Obamacare-why it was rammed down our throat by a completely partisan group of Democrats and why the Republicans were locked out of the process. Why these partisan Democrat hacks refused to listen to the complaints of a million plus protesters and instead declared those protesters to be a threat to DHS (in all our Brooks Bros outfits no less).
2)The nationalization of the the auto industry and the finance sector(that's Socialism in case you didn't know)
3)The attempt at a tax based on the fraudulent junk science GLobal Warming
4)Health care waivers for Democrat constituents, Union members and so on, which for the life of me I thought they would be the first to want Obamacare
5)Insane entitlement spending and a refusal to take appropriate actions to stop runaway spending and borrowing from China
6)Shady involvement in the Libya situation-leaving Congress out of it and going directly to the UN
7)Foreign policy in general
8)Dissing our allies and secret handshakes with our enemies
9)Lies lies and more lies
10)Shady meetings with Union leaders including trumpka who bragged about his involvement in the Egypt uprisings
11)Paying off his buddies in GOldman Sachs, Unions, jobs for his friends like Van Jones
12)The Osama thing just has a bad smell all over it and Barry took credit, how convenient for his ratings poll numbers and his 2012 campaign
13)His eternal campaigning and general sticking his nose up in the air
14)Giving taxpayer money for a foreign oil company, Petrobas of Brazil, to drill in the Gulf while putting a moratorium on our own drilling. Shady dealings involving shares of BP Oil stock of which Barry is said to make 85 million off the deal, plus his overriding La Governor Jindal's authority in the Gulf spill cleanup efforts, and most likely the whole affair was meant as a dirty method of stopping our own drilling in the gulf. It's dirty no two ways about it.
15)The TSL enhanced groping and the radiation backscatter machines of which Michael Chertoff has financial benefit from their manufacture and sale.

How's that for a start? Wanna pick one?

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
To the bc deniers,

Tell us how you really feel and please form an original thought.

All,

This is all about racism and nothing else. A Black man is in the WH and these people cannot stand it. If not that then what is it? Nothing.

A highly respected SuperMod by the name of AshleyD disproved the claim of it being fake. Many here have proven it as being real so what is there to not get?

To start 10 new threads a day on this same topic confirms the lack of a thinking brain in this entire group, btw, if this was occuring on other forums each would've gotten shut down and the posters banned but for some moronic reason ATS seems to be lying down for them, what gives ATS?

I already posted my thoughts on another thread. Ask a birther what they really think about this and don't complain when you get the answer.

Originally posted by Naptown317
The funny thing about these threads is that Obama is still POTUS, and will still finish out his term. There are a number of people with the support/funds to bring to light if he is a fraud. Im still waiting for that to be done conclusively, an that should speak volumes as to his eligibility as POTUS.

Yes, and so did Bill Clinton finish his term after being officially impeached for lying under oath. He went out with a big bang too, with involvement in Kosovo. Clinton's good war. Libya is Barrys good war. The real reason Clinton should have been impeached is his giving our technology to China. Come to think of it, didn't that new helicopter get left behind in the Osama kill for Paks, Soviets, and Chinese to pick over?

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
1)The Affordable Health Care Act lovingly referred to as Obamacare-why it was rammed down our throat by a completely partisan group of Democrats and why the Republicans were locked out of the process. Why these partisan Democrat hacks refused to listen to the complaints of a million plus protesters and instead declared those protesters to be a threat to DHS (in all our Brooks Bros outfits no less).

After a year of debate about killing granny, he caved to the insurance companies and shelved the public option. I would hate to see you defend yourself against a physical "ramming" as ramming usually takes less than a year or so.

2)The nationalization of the the auto industry and the finance sector(that's Socialism in case you didn't know)

All signed by President George W Bush so there goes all that.

3)The attempt at a tax based on the fraudulent junk science GLobal Warming

How much did you pay in carbon taxes this year? Give me a round figure.

4)Health care waivers for Democrat constituents, Union members and so on, which for the life of me I thought they would be the first to want Obamacare

You have no idea what the waivers actually do as they do not opt out of "obamacare."

5)Insane entitlement spending and a refusal to take appropriate actions to stop runaway spending and borrowing from China

Trump/Teabag talking point void of any actual information.

6)Shady involvement in the Libya situation-leaving Congress out of it and going directly to the UN

Personal opinion.

7)Foreign policy in general

Personal opinion which is really odd since it is pretty much the same as the two guys before him.

8)Dissing our allies and secret handshakes with our enemies

Orly?

9)Lies lies and more lies

Good one.

10)Shady meetings with Union leaders including trumpka who bragged about his involvement in the Egypt uprisings

Yawn.

11)Paying off his buddies in GOldman Sachs, Unions, jobs for his friends like Van Jones

You must have meant to include facts and just forgot.

12)The Osama thing just has a bad smell all over it and Barry took credit, how convenient for his ratings poll numbers and his 2012 campaign

The story just smells bad to you. Compelling. Your posts have a lovely bouquet.

13)His eternal campaigning and general sticking his nose up in the air

Such a snob, aint he?

14)Giving taxpayer money for a foreign oil company, Petrobas of Brazil, to drill in the Gulf while putting a moratorium on our own drilling. Shady dealings involving shares of BP Oil stock of which Barry is said to make 85 million off the deal, plus his overriding La Governor Jindal's authority in the Gulf spill cleanup efforts, and most likely the whole affair was meant as a dirty method of stopping our own drilling in the gulf. It's dirty no two ways about it.

How's that for a start? Wanna pick one?

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I picked a few and I think your list says more about you than it does about Obama or anything else. You want to hate and AM radio gives just enough to hate with. You came here to repeat the things you heard because you are really upset. All that damn socialism that Obama did even though Bush actually did it is reason to hate Obama. That makes a special kind of sense to a thinking person.

reply to post by Kali74


about 70% of ATSers are birthers. They make a good chunk of this website. They provide activity, membership, outrage. They provide alot of the growth to this website. So why on earth would administration marginalize them?

reply to post by Runaway1977


First, I repeated nothing here. I spoke of specific issues here which have all been in the news for 2 and 1.2 years, whereas in the other thread I spoke of Ayers and his communist affiliations.

I didn't happen to hear that particular talking point of Trump actually. I must have missed it in the Youtube of his talk in Boca Raton. Yes, the issues I speak of are on the minds of millions of Americans, including many here at ATS. There are threads here on the Libya involvement.
My worldview has developed over decades. I don't take my talking points from Trump. However I was very pleased to hear that he has ideas on how to clean up our trade deficit issues with China.
Your response to my list of issues also shows me something about you.

And about Bush, although I thought this was about issues relating to Barry's leadership, Barry and Bush are on the same team are they not? What a nice smooth handoff it was. Michael Savage said that Bush Jr was a fiscal socialist and I tend to agree. So if you had problems with Bush running up the deficit, then you should also have problems with Barry and his entitlement spending (not to mention continuation of war in Afghanistan, and a new one in Libya)
I knew back in the 90's the Bush's were Skull and Bones. I am aware of the Carlyle Group. I am aware that Grandad Bush and Averill Harriman financed Hitler.
Both parties have been advancing the agenda of the NWO.
Your one liner retorts to my list of issues is not much of a real debate, but that is where you are in your thinking I guess.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
First, I repeated nothing here. I spoke of specific issues here which have all been in the news for 2 and 1.2 years, whereas in the other thread I spoke of Ayers and his communist affiliations.

I do not know what you read when you read my posts but I never brought up race and you jumped on me about that, now I did not say anything about you repeating this stuff in this thread. I have a really hard time taking you seriously after the way you have responded to me with things I have not said.

If the problems you have with Obama are things Bush did and you cannot even admit that little fact to yourself then I doubt you honestly care about reality anyway.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Your response to my list of issues also shows me something about you.

Jacking my style now? I am honored.

Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
First, I repeated nothing here. I spoke of specific issues here which have all been in the news for 2 and 1.2 years, whereas in the other thread I spoke of Ayers and his communist affiliations.

I do not know what you read when you read my posts but I never brought up race and you jumped on me about that, now I did not say anything about you repeating this stuff in this thread. I have a really hard time taking you seriously after the way you have responded to me with things I have not said.

If the problems you have with Obama are things Bush did and you cannot even admit that little fact to yourself then I doubt you honestly care about reality anyway.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Your response to my list of issues also shows me something about you.

Jacking my style now? I am honored.

edit on 19-5-2011 by Runaway1977 because: (no reason given)

Yah you're right. I barely read your post it's so full of baloney. I did misread that part of your post. It's 5:15 and I've been up all night. Don't be honored please, just quit with the ad hominem attacks. You are obviously on the left side of the aisle and apparently are comfortable with all this Socialised medicine. I get that. Ms Pelosi is not an honorable person. She is a rat through and through. And even Barry has a better personality than she.
If you want to know, I thought Barry was ok at first, then I heard his comments about sex ed for kindergartners. Slowly, all this stuff just kept coming out about him. I see through the veneer.
Now tell me how the Affordable Healthcare Act was Bush's problem? It was all Barry's but you want Statist Big govt and I want limited govt. Libya is ALL Barry's for sure. Barry went to the UN and NOT to Congress. I have a problem with that. You lefties are the other way around. You complained so bitterly about Bush's war in Iraq, but at least he went through Congress. Barry does not act like an American ever. He behaves like the Citizen of the World he said he is while in Berlin. He barely pretends to care about the interests of America, and you wonder why people are still questioning his NBC status because he does not act in the interests of America as a real POTUS should.
Still, my guess is that a lot of this is on the agenda of the NWO anyway. You either like it or you don't.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Carseller4

 

That has nothing to do with my OP...

But it should answer your question.

The birthers are rabid. They will denounce any evidence presented, fill up thread after thread with the same debunked claims, and generally bog down any attempt at political discourse with their nonsense.

It's all one big joke, and I'm beginning to think it was intentional to distract the rabble from discussing any real issues.

Ok let's discuss the issues then. Here's a short list of some of mine
1)The Affordable Health Care Act lovingly referred to as Obamacare-why it was rammed down our throat by a completely partisan group of Democrats and why the Republicans were locked out of the process. Why these partisan Democrat hacks refused to listen to the complaints of a million plus protesters and instead declared those protesters to be a threat to DHS (in all our Brooks Bros outfits no less). - Since when is dropping kids and the elderly when they got sick the American way? Since when is having no insurance and no way to get insurance so wrong for? I'm sure if you got a debilitating illness that forced you out of work your family would be up a creek without a paddle.
2)The nationalization of the the auto industry and the finance sector(that's Socialism in case you didn't know) - See below. Keeping American jobs in America is wrong?
3)The attempt at a tax based on the fraudulent junk science GLobal Warming - It's called "Climate Change" and it is real.
4)Health care waivers for Democrat constituents, Union members and so on, which for the life of me I thought they would be the first to want Obamacare - All the waiver system is if you have insurance that you like that is for you to opt out of the requirement of having insurance.
5)Insane entitlement spending and a refusal to take appropriate actions to stop runaway spending and borrowing from China - This prevents us from having to go to The Federal Reserve that increases our debt with them and if we say borrow $1 Trillion and we send some jobs there that debt would fall to about $500 - $700 Billion overnight saving us nearly $500 Billion overnight interest free.
6)Shady involvement in the Libya situation-leaving Congress out of it and going directly to the UN - We were in there to start it and left within 2 wks so that is gone.
7)Foreign policy in general - What is so wrong with empowering other nations to take charge of their own fate and destiny. Aren't we the Beacon of Freedom?
8)Dissing our allies and secret handshakes with our enemies - Who Israel who time and time again threatens whoever they want unchequed and has stated it's intent to "Bomb Iran and leave The US to clean up the mess" No way, don't think so. No nation tells us what we are going to do.
9)Lies lies and more lies
10)Shady meetings with Union leaders including trumpka who bragged about his involvement in the Egypt uprisings - Trumpka, who the heil is this? Trump had nothing to do with Egypt.
11)Paying off his buddies in GOldman Sachs, Unions, jobs for his friends like Van Jones
12)The Osama thing just has a bad smell all over it and Barry took credit, how convenient for his ratings poll numbers and his 2012 campaign - Because 43 & Comapny thought Saddam Hussein and Iraqi oil was more important.
13)His eternal campaigning and general sticking his nose up in the air - He's sticking his nose up at those who mean this nation harm.
14)Giving taxpayer money for a foreign oil company, Petrobas of Brazil, to drill in the Gulf while putting a moratorium on our own drilling. Shady dealings involving shares of BP Oil stock of which Barry is said to make 85 million off the deal, plus his overriding La Governor Jindal's authority in the Gulf spill cleanup efforts, and most likely the whole affair was meant as a dirty method of stopping our own drilling in the gulf. It's dirty no two ways about it. - He tried to push to end oil subsidies to do a search and see that the entire GOP voted against ending the deal. This occured this past like Mon or Tuesday.
15)The TSL enhanced groping and the radiation backscatter machines of which Michael Chertoff has financial benefit from their manufacture and sale.

How's that for a start? Wanna pick one?

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edit on 19-5-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

Nationalization of every key element of our infrastructure is not only needed but should be the way forward because you don't want some private entity standing in the way of the Gov't and what it needs to do, besides it makes it that much easier to collapse the nation as a whole. Nationalization keeps the control firmly and solidly in Govt control because imagine if say, The Dept Of Defense was privatized, you'd have some moronic douchebag group with a fully armed nuclear device at the ready whereas you could threaten Gov't all you want and there would not be a thing that Govt could say or do about it. The Interstate system is nationalized yet no one is complaining about that, the next to be fully nationalized is the Federal Reserve.

If we did not bailout the auto industry that would've guarandamnteed that at least 35,000,000 people would've been out of a job leading to near 30 - 35% unemployment, up to 4 times worse then what is it now.

TSA is not private but nationalized, Amtrak is nationalized, Social Security is nationalized. Imagine if Social Security would've been privatized in 05 like they wanted it to be? At least 60% or better would've been wiped out in the 2008 crash. Imagine if the TSA was private, a 9/11 style attack would be that much easier to pull off as all you gotta do to get someone to look the other way is via a big payday. Let the attack happen just to scare more money out of Govt.

Please listen to how arrogant and moronic you sound. Get your priorities straight please. Who is your allegiance with? TPTB or The USA. The time to choose is now.