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Indian Farmers Commit Suicide Due To Devastation Caused By GM Crops

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

What is it when corporations merge with government according to mussolini? FASCISM


Yes, and the day is fast approaching where we will find ourselves looking that in the face.

Maybe we are there now...




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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I am afraid it is now too late. Congress passed and Obama signed into law the bill that transfers control of American farm land over to the likes of Monsanto,Cargill and CON Agri.





WTO rules put free-trade of agribusiness above national health concerns
March 29, 2006

In February, a private organization with unique powers over world industry, trade and agriculture, issued a Preliminary Draft Ruling on a three-year-old case. The case was brought by the Bush Administration in May 2003 against European Union rules hindering the spread of genetically-engineered plants and foods. The WTO ruling, which is to be final in December, will have more influence over life and death on this planet than most imagine.

The ruling was issued by a special three-man tribunal of the World Trade Organization, in Geneva Switzerland. The WTO decision will open the floodgates to the forced introduction of genetically-manipulated plants and food products-- GMO, or genetically-modified organisms as they are technically known-- into the world’s most important agriculture production region, the European Union.

The WTO case arose from a formal complaint filed by the governments of the United States, Canada and Argentina—three of the world’s most GMO-polluted areas.

The WTO three-judge panel, chaired by Christian Haberli, a mid-level Swiss Agriculture Office bureaucrat, ruled that the EU had applied a 'de facto' moratorium on approvals of GMO products between June 1999 and August 2003, contradicting Brussels' claim that no such moratorium existed. The WTO judges argued the EU was ‘guilty’ of not following EU rules, causing ‘undue delay’ in following WTO obligations.... www.globalresearch.ca...

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

What is it when corporations merge with government according to mussolini? FASCISM


Yes, and the day is fast approaching where we will find ourselves looking that in the face.

Maybe we are there now...


I am afraid we are already there when we look at food.
The new food law of 2010 contains the following:


SEC. 404. COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.



Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.

www.govtrack.us...


This is what FDA has already said:


International Harmonization


www.cfsan.fda.gov...

The harmonization of laws, regulations and standards between and among trading partners requires intense, complex, time-consuming negotiations by CFSAN officials. Harmonization must simultaneously facilitate international trade and promote mutual understanding, while protecting national interests and establish a basis to resolve food issues on sound scientific evidence in an objective atmosphere. Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the freetrade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions.
Participation in Codex Alimentarius
Cosmetics International Activities
International Organizations and Standard-Setting Bodies
International Office of Epizootics
International Plant Protection Convention
World Health Organization
Food and Agricultural Organization
Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA)
Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues
Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Microbiological Risk Assessments
Pan American Health Organization
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development


Therefore American citizens no longer have a say over the rules and regulations controling their sources of food!

When politicians start claiming to derive their authority from any source other than the people they govern, it is going to leads to the destruction of our freedom. Once the principle is established that our rights flow FROM the government or from an international organization, it opens the door for more edicts, until our freedom is gone. If we accept that ANY group has the right to do things that individuals alone do not have the right to do, then we have just accepted the concept that rights are not intrinsic to the individual and that they originate with the government or with and international organization such as the UN or WTO. THIS is the hidden trap because once we accept the group is more important than the individual then we are on the road to the tyranny the Powers That Be have planned for us.

REMEMBER:

The Constitution IS the supreme law of the USA and NOT some treaty!



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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The Constitution IS the supreme law of the USA and NOT some treaty!



This is SO important it deserves a seperate post!



Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution




The following qualifies as one of the greatest lies the globalists continue to push upon the American people.

That lie is: "Treaties supersede the U.S. Constitution".

The Second follow-up lie is this one: "A treaty, once passed, cannot be set aside".

HERE ARE THE CLEAR IRREFUTABLE FACTS: The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that

1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.

2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,

3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems a treaty the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others.



When you've read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone -- anyone -- claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth.
"This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.

This case involved the question: Does the NATO Status of Forces Agreement (treaty) supersede the U.S. Constitution? Keep reading.

The Reid Court (U.S. Supreme Court) held in their Opinion that,

"... No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or any other branch of government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy clause of the Constitution declares, "This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all the Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land...’

"There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification which even suggest such a result...

"It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power UNDER an international agreement, without observing constitutional prohibitions. (See: Elliot’s Debates 1836 ed. – pgs 500-519).

"In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined."


Did you understand what the Supreme Court said here? No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. Not question!

At this point the Court paused to quote from another of their Opinions; Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258 at pg. 267 where the Court held at that time that,


"The treaty power as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or a change in the character of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter without its consent."


Assessing the GATT/WTO parasitic organism in light of this part of the Opinion, we see that it cannot attach itself to its host (our Republic or States) in the fashion the traitors in our government wish, without our acquiescing to it.

The Reid Court continues with its Opinion:


"This Court has also repeatedly taken the position that an Act of Congress, which MUST comply with the Constitution, is on full parity with a treaty, the statute to the extent of conflict, renders the treaty null. It would be completely anomalous to say that a treaty need not comply with the Constitution when such an agreement can be overridden by a statute that must conform to that instrument." [/e]

The U.S. Supreme court could not have made it more clear : TREATIES DO NOT OVERRIDE THE CONSTITUTION, AND CANNOT, IN ANY FASHION, AMEND IT !!! CASE CLOSED.


Source ...www.sweetliberty.org...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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NONE OF YOU READ THE REPORT !!!!

My dissapointment in ATS readers is confirmed again. A sheeple knee jerk reaction at a misleading thread title and sensationalist intro, and NONE of you have bothered to find out why Indian farmers are killing themselves.

If you'd actually bothered to read the reports the OP's article links to, "Every Thirty Minutes: Farmer Suicides, Human Rights and the Agrarian Crisis in India," (which clearly none of you did), then you'd be angrily attacking the REAL reason for the suicides.

The report itself *doesnt even mention GMO crops* in the executive summary, and *doesnt even mention GMO crops* in the introduction.
Yes, issues regarding GMO crops are in the report as a contributing factor, but none of you noticed that its only mentioned in one section, and then never again for the rest of the report.
The evils of GMO crops are also neither mentioned at the end of the report in the Recommendations section nor the Concluding Observations section.

NONE OF YOU KNOW WHY INDIAN FARMERS ARE KILLING THEMSELVES

Because you're all too lazy.

And you think you have a chance at defeating TPTB? The big conspiratists ruling the planet?
You cant even find the truth when its *given* to you in a link.

[END RANT]



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Yes, issues regarding GMO crops are in the report as a contributing factor,


[RANT]

Case closed. Thank you!

[END RANT]



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
Case closed. Thank you!


Since once again you clearly didnt bother to read the report let me spell it out for you.

Even if GMO crops were not invented, didnt exist, had never been heard of nor thought of, these Indian farmers would still be killing themselves.
But obviously you dont care to know that.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by burntheships
Case closed. Thank you!


Since once again you clearly didnt bother to read the report let me spell it out for you.



I read the report. In fact, I quoted from it.

In fact, lets look at this in particular....


Farmers in the western state of Maharashtra, for example, now address their
suicide notes to the President and Prime Minister, in the hopes that their deaths may force the
Indian government to remedy the conditions that have led so many farmers to take their own lives.
Rachmandra Raut, who committed suicide in 2010, even went to the trouble of purchasing
expensive official stamp paper and—in laying out the reasons for his despair to this official
audience—cited two years of successive crop failure and harassment by bank employees attempting
to recover his loans.
www.chrgj.org...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Monsanto needs their charter revoked


Janky Red I wish it was that easy. Monsanto is only a single flower on a monsterous weed that has taken over most of the world!

F. William Engdahl, who has researched this for years explains the problem best.


...What is the WTO and whose interests is it organized to serve?

GATT Uruguay Round and the WTO

A little brief history of the origins of the WTO is in order first, before looking at the crucial question who determines WTO policy decisions. The negotiations of world trade since the establishment of the Bretton Woods postwar monetary system at the end of World War II, had been made through a General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), a series of trade rounds on specific issues between specific member countries. Beginning in 1980, Washington began pushing to introduce sweeping new areas of trade into a new GATT round, including “trade in Intellectual Property”[patents], or TRIPS. The reason was simple: The US would gain handsomely by being able to control TRIPS via an international body....

In late 1994 the US Congress voted to join the permanent trade body established by the GATT Uruguay Round, the WTO. There was almost no debate....

...the WTO would be given tough sanction and enforcement powers. More important, how it reached decisions was to remain secret, with no democratic oversight. The most vital issues of economic life on the planet were to be decided behind closed doors...

Two years earlier at the UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) in Rio, 175 UN governments signed a convention agreeing to develop an agreement on the safe handling and treatment of GMOs...

The Biotech GMO industry, led by Monsanto, DuPont and Dow of the US, sabotaged this agreement, even though the US was not ‘officially’ present, as it had refused to sign the CBD Agreement. A group of six countries controlling the world Biotech GMO market—Canada, Argentina, Uruguay, Australia Chile and USA-- forced a clause into the CBD text which would subordinate the Biosafety Protocol to the WTO.

They argued that limiting trade based on ‘unproven’ biosafety concerns should be considered a ‘barrier to trade’ under WTO rules!



The WTO served as the weapon for the powerful coalition of Washington and the powerful private GMO giants, led by Monsanto....

....it made sure this principle was carried over into the new WTO in the form of the WTO Sanitary and Phytosanitary Agreement (SPS), which stated, ‘Food standards and measures aimed at protecting people from pests or animals can potentially be used as a deliberate barrier to trade.’ Other WTO rules in the Agreement to Technical Barriers to Trade (TBT) forbid member countries using domestic standards or testing, food safety laws, product standards, calling them an ‘unfair barrier to trade.’....

Even more alarming, under the TBT, the US argues that no labeling of GM plants is required, as the plants have not been ‘substantially transformed’ from normal or non-GM soya, corn or other plants. This conveniently ignores the fact that Washington simultaneously insists that GMOs, due to the genetic engineering process, are sufficiently transformed to be patented as ‘original’.

The net effect has been to allow the powerful monopoly of five grain trading giants—Cargill, ADM, Bunge, Andre (formerly) and Louis Dreyfus—to dramatically increase the dumping of food commodities globally, ruining millions of family farmers worldwide in the process, while maximizing their private corporate profits. Once China fully implements WTO rules in the next several years, it is estimated that 200 million Chinese farmers will be ruined, feeding the human labor pool for even cheaper wages in the cities of China to compete with European or US workers.

The effect of the dumping by the huge grain cartel companies under WTO rules has been indebtedness and bankruptcy foreclosure for millions of farmers. Since WTO came from 1995 to 2992 US net farm income fell by 16%. USDA government subsidies go overwhelming to factory farming and agribusiness cartel interests such as Cargill, ADM and the like, not family farmers.....

www.publiceyeonscience.ch...


Mr Engdahl goes on to explain who is actually in control, who wrote the Agreement on Ag (Dan Amstutz VP of Cargill) and how the trade sanctions work.

This article was written several years ago and successfully predicted WTO would ruin millions of farmers world wide driving them to the cities to be come a cheap labor pool for the International corporations.

This is a technique perfected here in the USA over the last seventy years. SEE: History, HACCP and the Food Safety Con Job


This is a very good review/synopsis of Mr Engdahl's book:
part1: smirkingchimp.com...
part2: www.smirkingchimp.com...
part 3: www.smirkingchimp.com...

HOW the FDA/USDA really works here in the USA:
SHIELDING THE GIANTS: www.whistleblower.org...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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Does only america have a constitution of its own? What about all the member nations of the EU dictatorship?

I am pretty sure the global capitalists don't give an iota about ANY constitution and work RELENTLESSLY to SUBVERT each and everyone of them.



That is precisely what happens when necessary tariffs are forgotten about and protectionism becomes a dirty word. Across the board tariffs are bad but tariffs on american brand products produced overseas would cure us and others of many ills.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

What is it when corporations merge with government according to mussolini? FASCISM


Yes, and the day is fast approaching where we will find ourselves looking that in the face.

Maybe we are there now...


I am afraid we are already there when we look at food.



Once again crimevelvet, thanks for your work and all of the great information.

Its no wonder they are still creeping inwards with the power grabs on the water, and small famers.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Yes, issues regarding GMO crops are in the report as a contributing factor, but none of you noticed that its only mentioned in one section, and then never again for the rest of the report.


To tell you the truth I really do not give a rats behind WHAT type of cover up they are trying THIS TIME!

The report in the Guardian (UK) last year blamed the suicides on "Global Warming"


THIS IS THE REAL STORY!!!!



It is from 2006 and I have been aware of it for years.

AMY GOODMAN: Vandana Shiva remains with us, physicist; ecologist; director of the Research Foundation on Science, Technology, and Ecology; in '93, awarded the Alternative Nobel Peace Prize, the Right Livelihood Award; her latest book, Earth Democracy: Justice, Sustainability, and Peace. There is an epidemic you write about in India of farmer suicides. Can you explain what's happening and where this is happening?

VANDANA SHIVA: Indian farmers have never committed suicide on a large scale. It’s something totally new. It’s linked to the last decade of globalization, trade liberalization under a corporate-driven economy. The seed sector was liberalized to allow corporations like Cargill and Monsanto to sell unregulated, untested seed. They began with hybrids, which can’t be saved, and moved on to genetically engineered Bt cotton. The cotton belt is where the suicides are taking place on a very, very large scale. It is the suicide belt of India.

And the high cost of seed is linked to high cost of chemicals, because these seeds need chemicals. In addition, these costly seeds need to be bought every year, because their very design is to make seeds nonrenewable, seed that isn’t renewable by its very nature, but whether it’s through patenting systems, intellectual property rights or technologically through hybridization, nonrenewable seed is being sold to farmers so they must buy every year.

There’s a case going on in the Supreme Court of India right now on the monopoly practices of Monsanto. An antitrust court ruled against Monsanto, because the price is so high, farmers necessarily get into a debt trap



www.democracynow.org...


I am going to believe VANDANA SHIVA before I believe others. If you do not like her how about:


... Now the full toll—surely among the largest sustained waves of suicides in human history—is becoming apparent.

And as Sainath emphasizes, these numbers still underestimate the disaster, since women farmers are excluded from the official statistics... It is important that the figure of 150,000 farm suicides is a bottom line estimate.... As Professor Nagaraj puts it: "There is likely to be a serious underestimation of suicides...what has driven the huge increase in farm suicides, particularly in the Big Four or ’Suicide SEZ’ States? "Overall," says Professor Nagaraj, "there exists since the mid-90s, an acute agrarian crisis. That’s across the country. In the Big Four and some other states, specific factors compound the problem.... Cultivation costs have shot up in these high input zones, with some inputs seeing cost hikes of several hundred per cent... Meanwhile, prices have crashed, as in the case of cotton, due to massive U.S.-EU subsidies to their growers. All due to price rigging with the tightening grip of large corporations over the trade in agricultural commodities." alternatives-international.net...
www.counterpunch.org...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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I am pretty sure the global capitalists don't give an iota about ANY constitution and work RELENTLESSLY to SUBVERT each and everyone of them.


There is no question that there is a drive to subvert ALL national constitutions and democratic government. That is what the EU is about, that is what WTO is about and that is what the UN is about.


...Strong on national sovereignty at the opening session of the 1992 Earth Summit...


"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security." -Maurice Strong at the 1992 Earth Summit.


...Strong discussing the role the Earth Summit would play in the emerging system of global governance...


"The Earth Summit will play an important role in reforming and strengthening the United Nations as the centerpiece of the emerging system of democratic global governance." -Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine.

www.nationalcenter.org...


The United Nations Commission on Global Governance:
sovereignty.net...
www.un.org...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Deep down inside...i feel we are in a bad, bad situation. First, the military industrial complex has waaaay too many toys...and second, corporations have waaay too much control. I dont know how much longer we can sustain life, without the farmers? Do people realize how much farmland it takes to feed 1 family..and to sustain that family for a lifetime? I planted a peach tree...but 1 tree can only sustain us for a few days...at best. Please tell me, how we're gonna survive when they finish their land grab?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security." -Maurice Strong at the 1992 Earth Summit.


I fail to see "enviromental security from the global community" when huge corporations can do as they please

because............


...Strong discussing the role the Earth Summit would play in the emerging system of global governance...


"The Earth Summit will play an important role in reforming and strengthening the United Nations as the centerpiece of the emerging system of democratic global governance." -Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine.
www.nationalcenter.org...


The United Nations Commission on Global Governance:
sovereignty.net...
www.un.org...


the UN has been hijacked by state capitalist bankers. A UN of sovereign nations would be great but that is not the case.

Thanks for the great material!


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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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....Please tell me, how we're gonna survive when they finish their land grab?


Believe me it has been giving me nightmares for several years. Unfortunately the American Public WILL NOT wake-up. I have talked my self hoarse for the last six years on the subject and gotten nothing but a big YAWN


It is going to take sky-rocketing food costs and empty shelves to wake people up and by then it will be way too late.

India is just the tip of the Ice berg:
2002 Effect of policies on farmers in USA and Mexico:

...Between 1995 and 2000, the prices US farmers receive for corn declined 33 percent, 42 percent for wheat, and 34 percent for soybeans. No wonder that since NAFTA went into effect 33,000 small farmers in the US have gone out of business— more than six times the pre-NAFTA rate. In Mexico, the price farmers receive for corn has plummeted 45 percent At least 1.5 million farmers have left their land. 900,000 people leave Mexico's land every year, a U.N. program says. According to a study by Jose Romero and Alicia Puyana carried out for the federal government of Mexico, between 1992 and 2002, the number of agricultural households fell an astounding 75% - from 2.3 million to 575, 000... www.globalexchange.org...




...Jadwiga and I were able to address a meeting with the Brussels-based committee responsible for negotiating Poland’s agricultural terms of entry into the EU. It proved to be an ominous foretaste of things to come....

....To do this it will be necessary to shift around one million farmers off the land and encourage them to take city and service industry jobs to improve their economic position. The remaining farms will be made competitive with their counterparts in western Europe.”

There in a nutshell you have the whole tragic story of the clinically instigated demise of European farming over the past three decades. We protested that with unemployment running at 20 percent how would one provide jobs for another million farmers dumped on the streets of Warsaw? This was greeted with a stony silence, eventually broken by a lady from Portugal, who rather quietly remarked that since Portugal joined the European Union, 60 percent of small farmers had already left the land. “The European Union is simply not interested in small farms,” she said....

...Farmers, however, stand in the way of land acquisitions; so they are best removed. Corporations thus join with the EU in seeing through their common goals and set about intensively lobbying national government to get the right regulatory conditions to make their kill....

Farmers,.... suddenly find themselves heavily controlled by EU and national officialdom brandishing that most vicious of anti-entrepreneurial weapons: ‘sanitary and hygiene regulations’ - as enforced by national governments at the behest of the Common Agricultural Policy of the European Union. These are the hidden weapons of mass destruction of farmers and the main tool for achieving the CAP’s aim of ridding the countryside of small- and medium-sized family farms and replacing them with monocultural money-making agribusiness....

www.i-sis.org.uk...


These "most vicious of anti-entrepreneurial weapons: ‘sanitary and hygiene regulations’ originate from the WTO and are wiping out farmers world wide.

The "Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010" are the exact same ‘sanitary and hygiene regulations’ that have exterminated the small- and medium-sized family farms in the EU. This was done during good economic times. You can imagine what this is going to do to the 2.2 million farmers in the USA.

In Australia they are also having farmer suicides.


Bob Katter raises farmer suicide

Mr Katter said farmer suicide was occurring every four days.

Mr Katter read out a string of statistics illustrating farm decline and launched vicious attacks on “free” trade and the massive market power held by supermarket giants Coles and Woolworths.

"This free trade, if you’re doing it and no-one else is doing it, you’ll close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," Mr Katter said.


....."We’ve only got two people to sell food to in Australia and two people to buy food from in Australia."

..."They have skewed agriculture in Australia and been extremely harmful to ordinary hardworking farmers … very very sad outcomes indeed."....

www.weeklytimesnow.com.au...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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the UN has been hijacked by state capitalist bankers. A UN of sovereign nations would be great but that is not the case.


Yes! And Maurice Strong is a senior Advisor to the World Bank as well as the UN.

You should read what Radio for Peace International had to say about Maurice Strong!



SOURCE:

The university's administrator, Canadian Maurice Strong, came in on a wave of influence based on the promise of Ted Turner's foundation to give a billion dollars to the UN. His connections to the Turner foundation, the World Bank, and to those environmental groups you hear criticized for allowing domination by big business, are just the tip of the iceberg.

Anyone searching "Maurice Strong" on the web encounters a veryinteresting array of entries. (To quote Lewis Carroll, the story becomes "Curious and curiouser") If we can believe even 10% of the story of his ascent to power and influence, an astonishing tale of subterfuge emerges, consistent with his attack on RFPI. Beyond the fig leaf of NGO's that he uses for cover, Strong's real alliances are with the enemies of the UN, which they are busily "reforming".....



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Yeah the guy seems to be highely connected on a global scale but he is still a puppet imo. The real players are trillionare illuminati crime families. Vanderbuilts, Rockefellers, JP Morgans, Rothschilds, Onassis, Li from china, Disney, Krupp, Merovingians, DuPonts, etc. I think 13 in total.

Basically people who made in big in the industrial revolution of europe and then america. OLD MONEY

USA is a corporation and is registered in the state of delaware as well as all its agencies and thus all the fifty states(AFAIK) by default. It is NOT a theory, it is fact! Thus we have state capitalism.............
Then the grandaddy of all the FED who collects interest from the IRS and sends the money offshore to private, untraceble bank accounts...probably switzerland!

1/3 of the money goes to pay the debt, 1/3 to the military(mostly black budget) and the last 1/3 to projects here and there. TOTAL SCAM with no accountability whatsoever. Guess who owns the FED? JP Chase, Bank of America, Deutche Bank, BNP, Barclays, etc....the same people who own the ECB I assume. All private corporations with no disclosure needed since only public corporations need to disclose anything. They are not under the SEC which btw is also private.

Great miseary is ahead and perhaps a revolution!



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Money to stimulate banks and bail out "governments"

The people are not getting dick. Trickle down economics indeed!



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Regardless if this was a "knee jerking reaction" (as one poster put it) or not, I like to thank you OP for bringing this information forward. Gosh knows how many news stories are being hidden away from the public.

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