God works in mysterious ways: The illuminati used for a good purpose

This thread is a bit of a free-floater in terms of what category it should be in, but relevant nonetheless. The subject matter is evil doing good inadvertently, or the illuminati doing things that seem evil but are actually good. Here are just a few examples:

TSA workers and radiation.

Many people are against the TSA, not just for the obvious intrusion into privacy and the removal of constitutional rights, but also because so many TSA workers are showing up in the news committing theft, sexual assault, planting drugs, and calling themselves "God" and in charge. People are also against the radiation scanner machines that subject people to daily doses of radiation. But what about the TSA workers that have to work near the machines all day every day? Just because they are not underneath the machine does not mean they are safe. The machines have been proven to be unsafe, and the safety checks were biased and a scam. The TSA has also lied repeatedly about the machines ability to store images. So bottom line, you shouldn't be anywhere near these machines, let alone for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Unfortunately many passengers will die of radiation exposure, this is the obvious evil of the illuminati, but on the plus side, rapists and child molesters who seek out jobs at the TSA because they know they'll be able to look at naked children (legally) will be the most at risk of dying of radiation sickness. Knowingly or not, the illuminati are herding all the rapists into one workforce and force radiationing them on a daily basis.

DSK and the IMF rape case

Even if you're head of the world's most criminal banking institution, you can still get arrested for running around naked and assaulting hotel maids. Even if this was a complete set up (if he was that rich why not just hire a prostitute?) he is still in jail (supposedly). It's hard to trust these crooks, but the bottom line is his name and reputation has been drug through the mud whether he will get off easy or spend a long time in jail. If this was a set up, it just shows that the illuminati are the only ones powerful enough to take down a man of this criminality.

Dumbing down of American milk cows (people) ready for slaughter.

Sadly, those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. Which is why so many people fall for the tricks of socialism and communism. The massive dumbing down of society has an upside, however, because it is these types of people who will die off first. Either through wars, cancer, or simply dying before they are born because their would-be parents were into the hype of abortion, they will not be around long unless they learn. The other plus side of living in a dumbed down society is that even mediocre intelligence can stand out from the crowd.

Wars of aggression fueling the largest religion on earth.

Oh boy, if you don't like religion, you shouldn't be in the military. While the West likes to claim that Christianity is the dominant religion and the creator of civilization, the point has to be made that Christianity does not physically cause the modernization of society, but rather tries to prevent it. Collectively, the people of the West are not entirely "Christian" as opposed to the overwhelming Islamic faith of the Arab countries. The wars simply give these people a reason to go on with their religion. Unlike Christianity which keeps trying to predict when Jesus will return, Islamic countries can say "see, our prophet was right, we will always be fighting the heathens that try and invade our country." This is not to say Islam is perfect, and if we remove the religious mask, jihad is simply the fight for one's freedom, not unlike the American revolution. Without the wars of aggression, the people have no justifiable reason to assert their liberties.

9/11 and the hidden hand

A lot of people asked, if God is so good, why did he cause 9/11? Of course the question depends on the premise of who caused 9/11. After trying to answer this question it becomes apparent that the terrorists are actually those within government, not those within caves in Arab countries. By performing such a large false flag operation, millions of people gain awareness of the criminal elements at stake. So in a way, the illuminati have educated the public far more than any history professor could possibly do.

None of this is perfect. For instance, is it a good thing that we have to fight off invaders into our homeland? No, however, there is an upside to even the worst evils in the world, which is why it's said that God works in mysterious ways.

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What does God have anything to do with this thread? Just wondering where the link is?

Do you realize that there are MANY religions out there and people with MANY faiths and Gods? So far you just mentioned Islam, Christianity....what other religions can you bring into your argument and what do their Gods tell them? Just asking for more explanation from you that's all.

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I dont agree with anything you've said in terms of the Illuminati doing ANYTHING 'Good'

I think you need to a little more reading between the lines.

I dont quite understand this post whether you are trying to spread a good word about the Illuminati or whether you are slating them while saying, but they've done this etc..

As far as i can see they have done nothing good, they are destabilizing the Western world's currencies and the western world itself.

As for the IMF boss, hes clearly being framed as he was against whatever they are trying to do, Hes also a strong candidate for the next President of France, Sarkozy is an Illuminati puppet, it makes complete sense that they are degrading him so no one will want to vote for 'a perverted old man who tries to rape any girl in sight' thats how hes beig portrayed & its more obvious media fabrication for the masses.

As i said i dont quite understand this thread & dont take my response as an attack at you or your way of thinking, but i do not agree with what you have written in this thread.

oh, what is the upside to God taking our first child from my wife and I before we even got a chance to hold it?

Interesting take on it all...
bit tounge in cheek if you ask me
but i just wish to say that in regards to the west and its view on religion.
well not all western countries think like that..
come to Australia, its alot different how we handle religion here.
for example a islamic group using a council owned building was protested against by locals, saying oh we cant have that... well the council came forward and told the locals to shut up, as Australia was a multicultural country and they are free to gather and use a council building for the purpose of spiritual activity's..
The west is bigger then the USA.. and was originally European, with USA Australia and others being added.
its a blanket term.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Originally posted by filosophia
on the plus side, rapists and child molesters who seek out jobs at the TSA because they know they'll be able to look at naked children (legally) will be the most at risk of dying of radiation sickness. Knowingly or not, the illuminati are herding all the rapists into one workforce and force radiationing them on a daily basis.

I wouldnt quite say they're herding all the rapists into one workforce and irradiating them ..
Not all rapists work there ... i doubt there would be enough of those vacancies available to accomodate all the rapists .. And i imagine not all people who work on those jobs are rapists ...

I also imagine if Illuminati are real in the sense i have been made aware of .. they are probably more aligned with child rape and sacrifice than these people who operate the scanning equipment that you very casually categorise as rapists appear .. to the point of sheer evil perhaps ... i think the worlds rape problem will still exist in full force regardless of these scanning machine operators ...

I think to summarize what he is saying is;

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

There is a silver lining to every cloud.

etc, etc....

However, on the other hand....

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

"We're from the Goverment, we're here to help!"

It's funny you talk about this, I was actually thinking the other day on...

Home the Illuminati are themselves being controlled by aliens and how "they" will get absolutely nothing after their plans of NWO are in place. What makes the Illuminati think they will actually get something in the end?

After the game of Monopoly is over, they just won't get sh*t. Sweet irony...

Originally posted by TDawgRex
I think to summarize what he is saying is;

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

There is a silver lining to every cloud.

etc, etc....

However, on the other hand....

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

"We're from the Goverment, we're here to help!"

NO No NO ,when life gives you lemons you need to make a air powered lemon cannon..
then at least you have something to defend yourself with when they come calling...

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I prefer a Spud Gun. More thump. But I can see a lemon cannon..ever get lemon juice in your eye?

Quite the incapacitant.

Skywatcher2011:

What does God have to do with this thread? God is the ruler and Lord of the entire universe, that's what he has to do with this thread. God is the law of karma, divine retribution, which is inescapable by all sentient beings. Any action by anyone, even the supposed "above the law" illuminati are subject to these laws, and thus they are punished just as a common criminal is punished. Just when it is thought that they escape punishment through manipulation of court proceedings, they become punished through tarnished reputation and angry public protests. Watch how anyone from the Bush administration is pestered and ridiculed when they try and speak in public. No court or government administers this, only a brave soul expressing their individuality and freedom, which as they say God is the clear voice within.

You want a link? Here's four:

etext.virginia.edu.../modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public
yoga108.org...
aryan-buddhism.blogspot.com...
www.sacred-texts.com...

All religions worship the one God. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam make this apparent even though they have political differences between the three major religions. Buddhism has no God per se, however original Buddhism is Upanishadic, meaning God is the Eternal Self. Under Boethian or Meister Eckart type of Christian Philosophies, God is the Self. In Hinduism, the Godhead splits into infinite Gods, each one having a different purpose in mythology, but all being identical in terms of philosophy (Shiva, for instance, is Creator, Preserver, Destroyer, all in one). Advaita Vedanta teaches that the creation (Brahma) is part of the creator (Brahman). Brahman is Atman (the Self) so God is the Self.

Vanishr:

By destabilizing the western world's currency, the illuminati are losing a grip on their own power structure. The more the governments run up deficits and debt, the more problems they have. This will be capitalized on later, but many insiders will be forced out due to the infighting by the illuminati. The elites are soon approaching their "rapture" which will be far worse than the punishment they have placed upon humanity, specifically because humanity outnumbers them. Imagine an elite being tossed to an angry mob, that is the kind of retribution that will visit these illuminati for the crimes they have committed. It's happened in the past, and it will happen again. And any that escape this rapture will go down in history as being the head the illuminati, subject to conspiracy theories on every corner of the globe, their reputation tarnished so much they will be forced to hide their wealth through intermediaries (like the Rothschilds do).

MJZoo:

Miscarriages are unfortunate but there is always a reason for this. If the fetus died in the womb it was not strong enough to stay alive, so if by some medical procedure was rescued from the womb it would have been premature and not healthy as it could be. The only thing else I can add are more personal condolences. I'm sorry such a thing happened but you can always try again. Hardships happen in order to strengthen character. The life of a man is set by difficulties on all sides, and the rough journey seeks to fine tune his virtue by purifying his spirit through hardship. A man of God does not see anything as misfortunate so long as he has his will to carry on and his wisdom to see the up side of any crisis. If any aspect of a man's fortune can be taken away from his self, then it just proves that these aspects are not as fortunate to the man as his own self. Even in death, a man is still a soul, immortal, free, one with God, only through life and desires does the soul come to find itself in a body, searching the world for sustenance to keep the body alive. When you remove everything that is a man, you are left only with a divine soul, that is all you need. The more you understand that your soul is all you need, the more you will be able to handle the misfortunes of life, because you will no longer see them as misfortunes but in fact opportunities to increase your wisdom. For what its worth.

sprocket2cog:

Another good aspect of racial integration: while the illuminati try to integrate cultures in order to divide and conquer them, an unexpected situation arises when the two cultures mesh and get along. Americans and Muslims have a lot in common when they both perceive their mutual enemy. It's only when the government parades pictures of terrorists do Americans forget the call to preserve liberty and believe the Muslims are out to get them.

Segenam: it's not meant to stop all the rapists. Since the illuminati are mainly evil they can not do something inherently good. Rapists will convert themselves mostly through self-guilt and shame. Whenever a person commits an evil, they become punishment by the entrapment into the physical conditioning of their crime, in the same way that a liar must constantly create new lies to cover up old ones, the same goes with a rapist, they will continuously need to find rape victims because they can not engage in normal acts of love. Their criminal tendencies create the cycle of hell that defines their existence.

TDawgRex: It's not perfect, and by no means is the illuminati a good frame work for government, but yes, with lemons you make lemonade, or with hardships you build character.

User8911: You seem to get the general idea of what I'm talking about. The so called elite will find they are subject to the same laws of retribution as anyone else, the IMF case is just an example of this. Bernie Madoff and Enron are other examples of so called "elites" facing public humiliation. But even those who supposedly escape from crime, such as the Bush administration, are now tarnished at infamous levels precisely because they did not have a trial. They will go down in history not just as monsters but as monsters who got away. Their evil will be almost mythical in proportion to common every day criminals. Their evil will be so great people will just pretend that they are actually good people to avoid thinking about the horror. However, this will just perpetuate the crime by giving people false idols to worship and respect. This is how evil latches on, by trying to make itself appear good. What this means is that even evil people want to be good. This is why the elite pretend to be humanitarian and philanthropic so people will not think of them as evil. Both evil and good people want to be good, but only good people achieve it, which illustrates how pathetic evil is.

God moves in mysterious ways.............reminds me of this....

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filosophia writes:

"..Unlike Christianity which keeps trying to predict when Jesus will return.."

I've attended many Churchs and houses of worship, and never has one of the people there tried to predict when Jesus will return. In fact, the exact opposite, just as written in The Bible.

Perhaps some self-interested Televangelist or ATS nutballs have tried to predict when Jesus will return.

Your quote is spit in the face of millions of believers who would never do such a thing; your statement is ignorance of the finest kind.

Originally posted by filosophia
with a rapist, they will continuously need to find rape victims because they can not engage in normal acts of love. Their criminal tendencies create the cycle of hell that defines their existence.

Interesting concept .. yeah .. i can see how, for some, after committing the evil deed in the first instance, would get caught in that cycle ... generally speaking

Originally posted by LargeFries
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filosophia writes:

"..Unlike Christianity which keeps trying to predict when Jesus will return.."

I've attended many Churchs and houses of worship, and never has one of the people there tried to predict when Jesus will return. In fact, the exact opposite, just as written in The Bible.

Perhaps some self-interested Televangelist or ATS nutballs have tried to predict when Jesus will return.

Your quote is spit in the face of millions of believers who would never do such a thing; your statement is ignorance of the finest kind.

True and original Christianity is gnosticism, which is the belief that one can gain salvation through a personal God as opposed to salvation through the church. The bible is littered with holes and exaggerations, false statements and contradictions, immorality and adultery. The only saving grace of the bible is the book of Matthew. The other gospels are highly suspect as the changes to Matthew can be visibly seen, most notably in John where Jesus continuously contradicts himself as to whether or not he is God or God is higher than himself, (this is not apparent in Matthew). Mainstream Christianity is in fact Satanism. A God who wages war in the name of humanitarianism, (the Iraq war was not the first, just research the crusades), but yet leaves millions dead as a result. A church that protects pedophiles. A church that teaches people that Jesus is the only way to salvation (not true, as each individual's soul is the way to salvation), and a church that is the exact opposite of what Jesus stood for (that being, a corrupt institutionalized religion which forces their rules upon people). So, say what you want about my level of ignorance I can say the same to you.

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All religions worship the one God.
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THIS! Exactly.

This is precisely the reason all the various fundamentalist religions hide the truth from their followers. All religions that worship one God are right. Sure, that's not comfortable to hear, but it's true.

Hell, even suggesting it in two of the three main world religions will get you killed or shunned.

Millions of people in history have been murdered over semantics. The lust for control by Popes, Potentates, Mullahs, Ayatollahs are perpetrated by closing your mind and restraining your will.

All religions worship the one God. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam make this apparent even though they have political differences between the three major religions. Buddhism has no God per se, however original Buddhism is Upanishadic, meaning God is the Eternal Self. Under Boethian or Meister Eckart type of Christian Philosophies, God is the Self. In Hinduism, the Godhead splits into infinite Gods, each one having a different purpose in mythology, but all being identical in terms of philosophy (Shiva, for instance, is Creator, Preserver, Destroyer, all in one). Advaita Vedanta teaches that the creation (Brahma) is part of the creator (Brahman). Brahman is Atman (the Self) so God is the Self.
the Rothschilds do).

All religions dont worship one god, many many religions are polythism which is worshiping many gods, God of thunder, god of air, god of water, god of sun, etc.

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if you use someone else's quote, you should use the quote tags around their statement. I'll let it slide since you created your account 3 days ago.

emsed1: well said, good to hear that people know there is one true God behind all the major religions, sadly the religious wars continue.

Ab123: No one worships the God of Thunder any longer. This was a vedic belief that also translated into Greek and Roman religions but let's be real here, if you want to argue semantics, no one worships the Sun God anymore. But like emsed1 said, people are murdered over semantics, so maybe we shouldn't argue over semantics.

wow, people believe in the illuminati lol