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The dead infant and the Obama birth-certificate mystery

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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reply to post by relocator
 


You just posted that in yet a different birther thread.



What is the point of having so many threads full of the same junk????????????????????




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


You have no idea if it is true or not and you do not even care but you put it forth as part of your theory? This is supposed to be taken seriously? So you are not really interested in the truth so much as you are interested in things in general?

If you want to get to the truth, you have to find facts. What is the problem there? I am actually in a bit of shock that a birther is calling something like a fact, "trivial." Obsessing over an article talking about a death notice, putting forth theories, then getting upset when someone asks you if what you say is actually true? What am I to make of this?


If you think he's wrong, why don't you produce the evidence to prove it?

edit on 18-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
WHat? The death announcement didn't have her name? Then how does WND know it was her?

it would appear there is a discrepency
in filing times between a birth certificate
and a death certificate in which they
overlapped in this case.

According to what i gathered from the
article.

You have only 3 days to file a death

You have 7 days to file a birth

thusly when the death announcement
was published, the birth certificate had
not been filed so no name was printed
which is why her father's name was used.
the child's name didn't make it to the registrar
in time for the death announcement.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by Violater1
Yo Boon

You know when you strike a nerve, and become closer to the truth when the CoIntel Pros begin
their spin attacks.


lmao,
yep they're out in force
over this one.




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
If you think he's wrong, why don't you produce the evidence to prove it?

edit on 18-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


It is not my job to prove some random thing he said is wrong. It is his job to prove anything he claims is true. Then again, I am sure you already knew that.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Exactly, he released them to issue a premeptive strike against the entire Birthers and yet there is a problem that no one seems to get and that is the entire Birther yipyap is an entire distraction. No real evidence or credibility behind this.


lmao

ur last name wouldn't be Soetoro
or Obama would it ???

or is that just the signature on
your paycheck ???




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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I'm looking for an answoer and to find anyone else that read the interview... What about you....going to all the threads?
2nd are you trolling?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by wcitizen
If you think he's wrong, why don't you produce the evidence to prove it?

edit on 18-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


It is not my job to prove some random thing he said is wrong. It is his job to prove anything he claims is true. Then again, I am sure you already knew that.


I'm NOT the one saying it.
The writer of this article said it.

Why don't you attack him with your accusations??



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by relocator
reply to post by Runaway1977
 


I'm looking for an answoer and to find anyone else that read the interview... What about you....going to all the threads?
2nd are you trolling?


abso-freakin-lutely
2nd for emphasis
star 4 u



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by relocator
reply to post by Runaway1977
 


I'm looking for an answoer and to find anyone else that read the interview... What about you....going to all the threads?
2nd are you trolling?


Does that not mean that you are trolling too then?


I just honestly believe most of you are doing something on purpose and it has nothing to do with the truth. I have been watching this for a few weeks now and I see people find out something is a lie and go ahead and say it some more anyway. I see people post things in different places because they get debunked often quite quickly. I think there is a deliberate attempt to spread as much mud around as possible just to make it all harder to mop up.

Or we are both just trolling. Whichever.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by wcitizen
If you think he's wrong, why don't you produce the evidence to prove it?

edit on 18-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


It is not my job to prove some random thing he said is wrong. It is his job to prove anything he claims is true. Then again, I am sure you already knew that.



It's not his job to prove it to you either.

You're the one who stated it was wrong, so the onus is on you to prove your point just as much as it is on him to prove his. Then again, I'm sure you already know that.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
I'm NOT the one saying it.
The writer of this article said it.

Why don't you attack him with your accusations??


These are not your words?


Originally posted by boondock-saint
you are missing the point here:

if Obama was issued a BC registration
number of an already deceased infant
then that is fraud and displaying that
fraud to the public is another felony.
Now, you have to ask, why did the fraud
occur ??? to hide something else,
maybe an adoption by Lolo Sortoro
which changed his citizenship to
Indonesian. A former Indonesian
citizen cannot become US President.

edit on 5/18/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)


Did you forget to credit the article? Are you saying you do not believe that to be true but the article says it might be? Why wouldn't you want to know the truth about it? If it is an important enough detail to answer the entire problem, why are you not as interested as I am in finding out if it is true? It seemed like it mattered and could possibly answer everything. Now you say you did not even say it?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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If you read my question you will see that I'm wondering what's going on in the court proceedings and looking for anyone else that has read the article. Read the article and get back to me with your thoughts pretty please.

edit on 18-5-2011 by relocator because: Corrected spelling



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
It's not his job to prove it to you either.

You're the one who stated it was wrong, so the onus is on you to prove your point just as much as it is on him to prove his. Then again, I'm sure you already know that.


OK then I know for a fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.
If you believe I am wrong, I guess it is up to you to prove that then.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977
I just honestly believe most of you are doing something on purpose and it has nothing to do with the truth. I have been watching this for a few weeks now and I see people find out something is a lie and go ahead and say it some more anyway. I see people post things in different places because they get debunked often quite quickly. I think there is a deliberate attempt to spread as much mud around as possible just to make it all harder to mop up.

Or we are both just trolling. Whichever.


show me a REAL certified copy of Virginia Sunahara's
LFBC which doesn't include the same registration
number of the current Obama BC and I will
gladly shut the hell up


otherwise your accusations against this theory
don't hold water IMO.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by wcitizen
It's not his job to prove it to you either.

You're the one who stated it was wrong, so the onus is on you to prove your point just as much as it is on him to prove his. Then again, I'm sure you already know that.


OK then I know for a fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.
If you believe I am wrong, I guess it is up to you to prove that then.


I'm actually not interested in discussing it with you, lol. It would be pointless because to date there is no objective reference point which can settle it.



edit on 18-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977
These are not your words?


I also used the word IF

guess u didn't see that one huh ???



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Runaway1977

Originally posted by wcitizen
It's not his job to prove it to you either.

You're the one who stated it was wrong, so the onus is on you to prove your point just as much as it is on him to prove his. Then again, I'm sure you already know that.


OK then I know for a fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.
If you believe I am wrong, I guess it is up to you to prove that then.


You know "for a fact" exactly how?

The real truth is that it is a "fact" to you simply because that's what you want to believe. And no doubt you want to believe your version because it ends up being much simpler than having to deal with how you could have been duped so badly into supporting a fraud.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
show me a REAL certified copy of Virginia Sunahara's
LFBC which doesn't include the same registration
number of the current Obama BC and I will
gladly shut the hell up


otherwise your accusations against this theory
don't hold water IMO.


Show me anything you put forth so far is even remotely true and I will gladly shut the hell up.

Otherwise you are just spreading more lies without even trying to find out what is true and what is not.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by IamAbeliever
 


It is you who is being deceived into this and suckered into this mess. None of y'all can have or are capable of forming an original thought and need to be told what to think. When that doesn't work y'all are ordered to either raise the voice to 11 to drown out everyone else or to hit back violently by employing character assassinations, threaten, hurl insults.

Please say what you truly feel but are afraid to and please form an original thought.


Why don't you start the ball rolling and share an original thought with us.




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