The dead infant and the Obama birth-certificate mystery

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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well with all the birther threads out there, there seems
to be pieces of the Obama puzzle that have been
hidden from view. This article could shed light on
just how Obama's birth certificate got out of sequence
and stamped after the Nordyke twins registration
numbers even though the supposed Obama paperwork
reached the registrar BEFORE the Nordykes yet got issued
a number afterward. Meet the infant who probably was issued
Obama's birth certificate registration number. And then died
the following day Aug. 5, 1961 due to medical complications.
The birth of Virginia Sunahara did not receieve a birth announcement
in either of the Honolulu newspapers, yet she received a death
announcement in the newspaper under her father's name which
may be the reason why it has been missed. Making the perfect gap to insert
Obama. I wonder if you were to access the records in Hawaii, would
you find a duplicate birth registration number for both Virginia
and Obama ??? Or maybe the birth record was deleted altogether?
How can someone erase a child from existence only because
they lived 24 hrs ??? The attached article shows a picture of
the grave stone of Virginia Sunahara: Born Aug. 4, 1961 and
Died: Aug. 5, 1961. Yet no birth records or announcements.
Quite strange indeed.


the numbers on the published Hawaii birth certificates of twins Susan and Gretchen Nordyke are lower than the number given Obama, even though the president's birth certificate was accepted by the registrar general and stamped with a certificate number three days earlier. Further, as WND reported yesterday, an article by the man who was Hawaii's registrar general at the time Obama was born confirmed birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar general.

Susan Nordyke, the twin born first, received birth certificate number 10637; Gretchen Nordyke, the second, received number 10638. Barack Obama's birth certificate was issued the number 10641, even though it was registered three days before the Nordykes' certificates.

However, if the birth certificate number 10641 was first assigned to Virginia Sunahara, the apparent conflict could be explained. Is it possible that if Obama's birth records were forged, the perpetrator used Virginia Sunahara's birth certificate number, knowing the girl was long dead and the family was unlikely to know or complain?


www.wnd.com...



I propose this theory for discussion as it def would
explain quite a few discrepancies in the Official Story.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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so if this explains how Obama got his registration
number after the Nordyke twins and Virginia
Sunahara had the same exact registration
number, then where was Obama really born ???
hmmmmm

Kenya perhaps ???


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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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so we have a scapegoat for the Birth Certificate.
and we have a scapegoat for his Social Security
number from CT.

Sounds just like CIA Ops to me.

They are notorious for imputing agents
under deceased people as cover


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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
Kenya perhaps ???


That IS what his Granny said, now wasn't it?

But of course the State of Hawaii knows better than Granny, and better than the "Kenyan-Born" author, too.

Ummm, yeah. Right.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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According to the article, Virginia's mother was Clara and father was Tomio.
Here is the grave marker. I can't quiet make out the date Tomio died, but was it before Virginia?
www.wnd.com...

SnF Nice find Boondock


Wow, she may have had a twin brother Steven.
Maybe that's actually Berry
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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I'm going to go with Grandma Dont Lie for $10,000 and I'll double down.


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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by boondock-saint
Kenya perhaps ???

That IS what his Granny said, now wasn't it?

yep, that is exactly what his granny
AND sister said.

And now we have the birth certificate
scapegoat that was used. A girl born
in Hawaii that got erased because she
only lived 24 hrs.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
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I'm going to go with Grandma Dont Lie for $10,000 and I'll double down.


ROFL.

I nominate you for the POST OF THE DAY AWARD.




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Violater1
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According to the article, Virginia's mother was Clara and father was Tomio.
Here is the grave marker. I can't quiet make out the date Tomio died, but was it before Virginia?
www.wnd.com...


No, he died in 1968
AFTER Virginia died.

Also note, her father fought
in WW2 as a US Soldier.
He was a Veteran.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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You know, this is a neat piece of information, OP. Well done for finding that. S&F



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Interesting idea BS, but I think we are looking way too hard into this entire issue.

If you look for small problems, you are bound to find them. What if someone misplaced the form for application? What happened to the OTHER missing number in that sequence?

What if, what if, what if.

I respect your position on the issue, but there is nothing to hold onto here excpet the possability, and a link to WND, which is nothing close to a honorable source. If any of these claims were actually valid then they would be taken to court, and of course they never make it past the smell teste let alone the test of consitutional validity.

This will only be fuel for those who will use any half-a**ed bit of coincidental information to claim Obama is a Kenyan by birth. Just wait, TrueAmerican will be along soon too!

Thanks BS but I won't buy this until something is proven to be true, not just complete desperate speculation.

ETA: TA already made it oo the party! Now the fun begins!


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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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what we really need
is some rich guy from the right wing
to put a $1Million dollar reward for
the original Birth Certificate of
Virginia Sunahara.

If it displays Obama's registration number,
then Obama is a sunk goose.

Any rich right wingers out there want to
put up the reward ???


thus far we have been looking for the WRONG
birth certificate.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I have to say, and I am repeating this from another thread, but if there is SO much evidence pointing to the BC being a fraud, why haven't the Teapublicans been all over it? Why aren't you people going to court with your "irrefutable" evidence? Why isn't the republican party doing anything about this? Are you saying that all these republicans who have only stopped short of saying they hate the president are part of this scheme to keep Obama in office? Even Michelle Bachman? Sorry, but this is getting even worse than Bush having a hand in 9/11. At least there was loose evidence Bush may have looked the other way while it was happening. All you Birthers have is a pdf of a pdf of a pdf that shows, by running it through five or six unrelated programs, that there is fraud! I work with the Adobe Creative Suite everyday, and I can say that no matter what, funny things happen when you make them pdfs, whether its a BC or a simple announcement or event Flyer. But please, keep up with your rants, because it makes Obama and the democrats look better to normal people everyday. Not that I am too enamored with them right now either, but hey, lesser of two evils and all.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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YEah, Trump tried that already and failed.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Well thanks,
and may I add, IF the shovel keeps digging and as it gets closer to really and truly uncovering something if anything concrete and undeniable, as the shovel gets closer, the chances of someone getting permanently silenced increase, I keep looking at the obits.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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I find this incredibly odd....


WND contacted Virginia's mother Clara, 83, who is living in Wahiawa on Oahu.

Clara told WND by telephone she did not have Virginia's birth certificate and she was not interested in applying to the Hawaii Department of Health to see what birth records might be on file regarding her daughter.


If I was notified about a possible fraud involving my dead childs birth certificate, I'd want to know what the hell is going on.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Wow, Nordyke twins and now Suahara twins (Steven and Virginia).
I'll take double the conspiracy for $10,000
www.wnd.com...



I wonder if Berry has a twin?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Flighty
I find this incredibly odd....


WND contacted Virginia's mother Clara, 83, who is living in Wahiawa on Oahu.

Clara told WND by telephone she did not have Virginia's birth certificate and she was not interested in applying to the Hawaii Department of Health to see what birth records might be on file regarding her daughter.


If I was notified about a possible fraud involving my dead childs birth certificate, I'd want to know what the hell is going on.

I don't find it odd at all.
most people who lost children
have a hard time in dealing with it
and probably would rather keep it
in the past.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Violater1
Wow, Nordyke twins and now Suahara twins (Steven and Virginia).
I'll take double the conspiracy for $10,000
www.wnd.com...
I wonder if Berry has a twin?

I wonder if Steven Sunahara's Birth Certificate
is just 1 number off from Obama's registration
number ???

getting closer all the time folks



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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It's like those russian dolls, this guys past present and future are amazing, one into the next into the next like an onion, a true man of mystery!





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