Deja Vu revealed

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Awesome. Thanks for helping me put the rest of the pieces of the puzzle together.

I am looking forward to putting it into action next time.

Originally posted by b3l13v3
First, we must ask ourselves what is Deja Vu?

Déjà vu is the experience of feeling sure that one has already witnessed or experienced a current situation, even though the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain and were perhaps imagined.

-Wikipedia

But, you already knew that right?

I'd assume as much.

However, that doesn't quite sit right with you... there is no words to explain exactly what it is, now is there?

Some of you may notice that deja vu tends to change from time to time....almost as though there is different levels of deja vu, different types.

Well, I'm here to tell you that you're not crazy, and yes - there is different types of deja vu. Let me start of by attempting to explain what I've grown to know as deja vu.

note: I believe deja vu is a form of quantum entanglement on a personal level, so if you know anything about that then it might help you understand where my philosophy behind deja vu originates from.
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They may also be showing you something that is going to happen, I don't know, they're codes, that's why I call them codes.

The Synopsis

Deja vu is more than meets the eye. That's why you need to think on a subconscious level to understand it.

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its not so personal as it is a 'common sense build in' by the hypnotic layers of the recorded record' mediums lids - so as like the book of ..Erasmus says..
letters of the quantum's water-air-earth connections done in.. and . there ye have it -- mixed in all the personal and global.-- gestalt -- off of an old story lines in it
give n price then 2

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Originally posted by b3l13v3
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Could be. Although if you already made the decision not to receive a traffic ticket, then you're at a CDV2 level.

Keep being an independent thinker friend.

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. In short, without self-love, instead of beautiful, you shall think yourself an old beldam of fourscore; instead of youthful, you shall seem just dropping into the grave; instead of eloquent, a mere stammerer; and in lieu of gende and complaisant, you shall appear like a downright country clown; it being so necessary that every one should think well of himself before he can expect the good opinion of others. Finally, when it is the main and essential part of happiness to desire to be no other than what we already are; this expedient is again wholly owing to self-love, which so flushes men with a good conceit of their own, that no one repents of his shape, of his wit, of his education, or of his country; so as the dirty half-drowned Hollander would not remove into the pleasant plains of Italy, the rude Thracian would not change his boggy soil for the best seat in Athens, nor the brutish Scythian quit his thorny deserts to become an inhabitant of the Fortunate Islands. And oh the incomparable contrivance of nature, who has ordered all things in so even a method that wherever she has been less bountiful in her gifts, there she makes it up with a larger dose of self-love, which supplies the former defects, and makes all even. To enlarge farther, I may well presume to aver, that there are no considerable exploits performed, no useful arts invented, but what I am the respective author and manager of: as first, what is more lofty and heroical than war? and yet, what is more foolish than for some petty, trivial affront, to take such a revenge as both sides shall be sure to be losers, and where the quarrel must be decided at the price of so many limbs and lives? And when they come to an engagement, what service can be done by such pale-faced students, as by drudging at the oars of wisdom, have spent all their strength and activity? No, the only use is of blunt sturdy fellows that have little of wit, and so the more of resolution: except you would make a soldier of such another Demosthenes as threw down his arms when he came within sight of the enemy, and lost that credit in the camp which he gained in the pulpit.

But counsel, deliberation, and advice (say you), are very necessary for the management of war: very true, but not such counsel as shall be prescribed by the strict rules of wisdom and justice; for a battle shall be more successfully fought by serving-men, porters, bailiffs, padders, rogues, gaol-birds, and such like tag-rags of mankind, than by the most accomplished philosophers; which last, how unhappy they are in the management of such concerns, Socrates (by the oracle adjudged to be the wisest of mortals) is a notable example; who when he appeared in the attempt of some public performance before the people, he faltered in the first onset, and could never recover himself, but was hooted and hissed home again: yet this philosopher was the less a fool, for refusing the appellation of wise, and not accepting the oracle's compliment; as also for advising that no philosophers should have any hand in the government of the commonwealth; he should have likewise at the same time, added, that they should be banished all human society.
And what made this great man poison himself to prevent the malice of his accusers? What made him the instrument of his own death, but only his excessiveness of wisdom? whereby, while he was searching into the nature of clouds, while he was plodding and contemplating upon ideas, while he was exercising his geometry upon the measure of a flea, and diving into the recesses of nature, for an account how little insects, when they were so small, could make so great a buzz and hum; while he was intent upon these fooleries he minded nothing of the world, or its ordinary concerns.
Next to Socrates comes his scholar Plato, a famous orator indeed, that could be so dashed out of countenance by an illiterate rabble, as to demur, and hawk, and hesitate, before he could get to the end of one short sentence. Theo-phrastus was such another coward, who beginning to make an oration, was presently struck down with fear, as if he had seen some ghost, or hobgoblin. Isocrates was so bashful and timorous, that though he taught rhetoric, yet he could never have the confidence to speak in public. Cicero, the master of Roman eloquence, was wont to begin his speeches with a low, quivering voice, just like a school-boy, afraid of not saying his lesson perfect enough to escape whipping: and yet Fabius commends this property of Tully as an argument of a considerate orator, sensible of the difficulty of acquitting himself with credit: but what hereby does he do more than plainly confess that wisdom is but a rub and impediment to the well management of any affair? How would these heroes crouch, and shrink into nothing, at the sight of drawn swords, that are thus quashed and stunned at the delivery of bare words?



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Some of you may notice that deja vu tends to change from time to time....almost as though there is different levels of deja vu, different types.

or ...that, there are a completely different letters rendered in .. so the stories are changed.. bit by bit

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S & F!

Short on time but I shall return soon to comment further on your OP.

Just to let you know that I made it and I haven't spaced your thread off.

Toni

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Okay I read your OP and your other posts. Wow that's amazing how you think of Deja Vu. I had not thought of it that way. It makes sense.

I get my share fair of deja vue.And, yes, I've always thought, okay I must have done this before. And, according to your assessment, I am correct because, if my sub-conscious has already pre-determined what's going to happen, then I have done it before. Awesome!

And, yes, I do want to consciously choose my paths. I've been working on that.

Thank you for sharing your experiences,

Toni

I think that Deja Vu is merely an overlapping of circadian rytherm neurotransmitters effecting consciousness. If one considers that a specific secretion of neurotransmitters/hormones must be secreted in order for dreams to occur then one must also accept that a specific secretion of neurotransmitters/hormones are necessary for conscious interaction with any given environment.

The thing is...there is no gaurantee that the circadian rythem will occur consistently due to environmental factors. As such...we must assume that there is an overlapping of these various neurotransmitter/hormonal secretions which at times give us 'dream experience', albeit even briefly, in conscious experience. The flip side is also explained by this...namely, insomia.

Just a physiological reaction bourne of an imperfect schedule...

And I am pretty sure that I am the only person who has considered this...so if you decide to write a paper...cite me as a source...

Originally posted by MemoryShock
Just a physiological reaction bourne of an imperfect schedule...

And I am pretty sure that I am the only person who has considered this...so if you decide to write a paper...cite me as a source...

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All things concerning what you mention, and it seems they many thousands of different rythms are not as imperfect or unrelated as we think.

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Elf

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're saying, but its interesting.

Every time I get deja vu, I try to consciously do something that's totally out of character. Then I always get freaked out when the deja vu persists even after doing something "unpredictable" (in a sense).

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Originally posted by Idonthaveabeard
So when you say deja vus happen when your being predictable and then you chose a path. Does that mean when a deja vu happens you should do something completely out of character which will then change your path??

For example if your walking down a street and you recieve a phone call and start Vu'ing (my word for when you get deja vus

) instead of answering the call like the deja vus is telling you you will do, reject it and also change your destination randomly??

Originally posted by b3l13v3
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Good point.

And I've a better!

Doing what you're saying just creates an infinite paradox.

You already thought of doing whatever "unpredictable" thing you were going to do after the deja vu initiated itself.

Won't work, sorry. Tried it.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?



Edit:

I guess I'll emphasize a bit for you. Basically, you have to start understanding that you're running down a predetermined path period, regardless of the deja vu, and once you realize that, and you start connecting to it(it feels really weird, and life itself starts feeling like deja vu), then you can start recognizing synchronizations and altering everything around you in a very interesting way. Weird stuff man, I tell you!

I experience it quite a lot, not quite sure why though

This is an awesome thread OP very thought provoking, I've bookmarked it so I can come back to it later and see some more responses. But overall, great job S&F!

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Hmm.. I always thought Deja Vu was a result of the algorithms/process by which intelligence exists: Pattern Recognition. That or some kind of evolutionary instinct along similar lines. Because the functionality is "wait a minute I have seen this before" feeling. That causes a person to be more cautious.

Similar along the lines of a sub conscious contingency plan.

As for premonitions.... I actually had one of those. Only way to describe it, is as a waking dream that is stopped in time(it happens so quickly, but the time feeling is way off base. I am talking about a split second feels longer then it should).

I was heading down route 93, at the time my inspection was out... Ahead of me the angle of the road changed making it impossible to see ahead given the traffic. All of a sudden I seen a police SUV parked in the median, and then it zoomed up to the officers face with him smiling and pointing at me saying "gotcha".

As soon as it ended I was like "emm WTF?", and just around the angle of the road the SUV was sitting there, with the same Cop as in my premonition. I seen/heard the lights and knew it was for me. So when I pulled over I was perfectly relaxed and everything.

Originally posted by Baguette
I'm pretty sure de ja vu is just when your brain stops for like a nano second and in that nano second your subconscious takes in what you're seeing and the "sense" of being there where you are, then when your brain starts up again, what your subconscious takes in is played back and you have a weird feeling that you've "been" there before, when in actual fact you haven't and it's just your subconscious playing it back to you....Ya follow?

That's a very good point. Of course, there is another incidence that you dream of the future event before hand. Playing it in your head. All of a sudden, couple of days later, the event is unfolding right before your eyes. Here, the sense of deja vu, becomes a premonition. The question becomes at what point and how did your brain or unconscious receive the necessary information to speculate a possible outcome of events? Information that you couldn't have known before hand (ie political events unfolding in another country which hasn't made it to the newspaper yet). No, you can't always change the outcome of the event if the event is happening outside your country. Even event unfolding within your own personal influence (school, work, family life, and etc), you don't necessary can change them. In fact, it can be harmful as well. What? Are you going to lock yourself inside your house fearing that your action or inaction (see if you can decide to act or not to act here ) can cause the event to unfold??

I love this thread.

The Predictive Frame.

In so much as, the future contains all possible outcomes and all probable outcomes (the past being the solidification of the possibilities and probabilities into an event that has no changeable component/s) there is a difference between a 'forecaster' and a 'predictor'.

A forecaster operates on a fully conscious level and rarely uses the word 'hunch'. Available variables of future events are notoriously difficult to consciously access, and require the imagination to 'flesh out' the missing bits.

A Predictor operates more-or-less exclusively on a subconscious level, and relies on feelings or the way a situation makes them feel, to navigate the future scenario, in advance.

Deja Vu, being an inkling brought about in a more-or-less random fashion, exhibits the same process, in reverse.

Reality is made of your very thought...
Problem is...everybody elses' thought is there too...

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I can't for the life of me find it, but there was a moment yesterday - one of THE clearest moments of de ja vu I had ever experienced.

To put it simply, I saw a post and I HAD SEEN IT BEFORE - and I EVEN KNOW WHAT I RESPONDED!!! Due to circumstances I won't enumerate, I was unable to type the response, but it was incredible.

I'm not joking. I'm completely serious.

Anyone else having more frequent deja vus? And clearer?