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Originally posted by yadboy
Wow, reading through this thread I'm really struck by how hard the anti-birthers are trying to stick their fingers in their ears and shut theirs eye tight and refuse to look at the document presented (not everyone, but a huge chunk of them).
Set aside left vs right, black vs white and just look at the document. Pretend it's Bozo the Clown's birth certificate if you have too, but look at it fresh. The first time I open the original PDF the White House made available I actually laughed out loud. It's a horribly put together document. If it is fake, it's a sorry effort to be sure. If it not fake, why in the name of God would they put out such inconsistant mess for proof?
Personally I think it's a fake. Is it fake because Obama wasn't born here? I can't really answer that question with any certainty. We will probably never know the answer to that question. People on both sides of the issue are driven by their personal opinions of Obama, but that just gets in the way of the question. Is the document real, a scanned original that has not be altered. I don't think it is.edit on 5/18/2011 by yadboy because: gramer corrections
Originally posted by Runaway1977
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Apparently the op failed to use the Search feature as this lie has already been debunked a thousand times. Can we move past this and tackle the more serious matters before us?
Excuse Me, but to My professional eye, it is VERY clear that this BC is a forgery. AND... This article is new, and I think deserves its own thread.
How can we be certain of your professionalism until we see some documentation on that?
You are not asking people to just take your word are you?
Originally posted by Runaway1977
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Apparently the op failed to use the Search feature as this lie has already been debunked a thousand times. Can we move past this and tackle the more serious matters before us?
Excuse Me, but to My professional eye, it is VERY clear that this BC is a forgery. AND... This article is new, and I think deserves its own thread.
How can we be certain of your professionalism until we see some documentation on that?
You are not asking people to just take your word are you?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Heh. I created my avatar.
Be that as it may... You may believe as You wish. *I* know I have been in graphics nearly 20 years. I don't care whether You choose to believe that or not. You're not that important to Me.
Originally posted by aptness
This seems to be a statement by some guy asserting he knows more than the Department of Health about their policies concerning birth certificates, and rehashing the same opinions and interpretations about the PDF file already expressed here by birthers ad nauseam.
Am I missing something? What exactly was proven? Can you tell us specifically what this man has been able to prove?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by DarylHamblett
Why can't I just eat my waffle?
Because the only acceptable waffle is the original EGGO. Waffle house waffles just don't cut it!
Originally posted by CaptGizmo
Set aside the left vs. right, the black vs. white.....are you serious? It is the RIGHT WING NEO_CONS...or the so called Tea Party that have created the whole left vs. right and the black vs. white thing! They are the only ones who refuse to let this BS go once and for all.It wont matter what Obama provides as proof....they won't accept anything as the truth!! Get over it already! The BLOG is based only on one Neo-Cons opinion with no proof what so ever..and yes I looked and read the info. It is all BS and baseless info. For Gods sake this guy references FOX news and the World Nut Daily as links for proof. Really!! The problem is the overwhelming majority in this country don't follow the NEO-Cons assessment of the BS birth certificate. It is very sad to see people hold on to this sad issue that was really started and furthered by FOX news which is an oxymoron in it self.
Originally posted by here4awhile
it would be nice to see our congress act on anything like this...sadly cronyism is alive and well in government right now and I expect the whole birther issue to simply never go anywhere because it would NEVER get a fair ruling period
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by Runaway1977
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Apparently the op failed to use the Search feature as this lie has already been debunked a thousand times. Can we move past this and tackle the more serious matters before us?
Excuse Me, but to My professional eye, it is VERY clear that this BC is a forgery. AND... This article is new, and I think deserves its own thread.
How can we be certain of your professionalism until we see some documentation on that?
You are not asking people to just take your word are you?
Very true.
I'm going to have to see some official documentation on your "professional" status.
I would like your school transcripts...starting at 1st grade. Might as well give us your BC too...and make sure it is the Long Form.
I'll also need to see some of your other professional work and recommendations from teachers and employers.
Is that too much to ask?
Originally posted by Frater
You guys are on ATS and you still play politics?
Politics is a dog and pony show, a distraction.