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Birthers: We Were Right. The BC is a FRAUD!!! Obama Lovers: Debunk THIS!

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by OnlyLove

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by OnlyLove
Again with the birther thing? Give it a rest absolute non issue.
Some actual good threads get burried by all this nonsense.
You have a black president! Deal with it!

It's a shame ats is getting invaded by the mindless masses.
Humbug,
OnlyLove.


and yet you have mindlessly accepted the liberal bias spin on this as an issue about race. Oh dear NOT the RACE card again..... when will you libs stop with the race cards.


In fact that's really why it works so well. The Soros machine and the Democratic Party knew that guilty white liberal intellectuals would fall all over themselves supporting him and all that "he's so articulate' Kind of blubbering. Maybe he's not as articulate when off the teleprompter and without Axelrod, Ayers, and Jarrett telling him what to say and do.
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Ah please c'mon, you believe what you want to believe but the fact is that if he was white and his name was "Bill Rogers" nobody would ever care about this.
This whole birther thing just to divert attention away from bigger issues. And it's working, look at you all hyped of because of his birthplace.
In case you didn't notice there is a nuclear disaster going on wich will affect the whole world, not just your precious USA.
Ow and there killing people in Syria because of free will. I know, people dying for what they believe in isn't important.
Please go ahead keep putting your time into this, you will soon see that it was al in vain.

OnlyLove.


At least please be accurate when talking about race. He is half white is he not? Which half do you support? But frankly it is ridiculous you supporters of Barry insist this is about race. Believe me, I once said, anyone but Hillary. I never dreamed there would be a more dangerous person than her. Pelosi too. And Harry. The race card is such a desperate act.
Frankly, I would consider voting for Herman Cain. He is looking like one of the better conservative picks. What will you liberals do when you can't play the race card?

What makes you think I am not aware or concerned about Fukushima? Just go over to some of the threads there and see if you can find any of my posts.
All in all, this guy is just the front man for the NWO, as probably will be the next President, unless we can find a non-Globalist. He really does fit the Messiah/Soviet Sleeper profile spoken of by ex KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov in 1983. I wonder if you have the guts to check out my former post with the vid of him, and also view the other parts of that lecture and see just how far the Soviets infiltrated our society. And by the way, Yuri mentions that the leftists who are active in all this 'destabilization" process get killed off(by Soviet agents) when they are no longer needed. It is indeed ironic that the IMF chief is not being shielded currently.
Try not to take it so personally.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by grey580
Oh well if it was posted on the internet it must be true then right?


I said that, did I?


If that was the case we'd be driving water powered cars to the space port so we could have lunch with our greyling chess buddy from alpha centurai at the ewok cafe on the 3rd moon of endor.


You obviously had no clue what my post meant or what I wrote so you made up what you thought I meant and responded to that. This is that crack research birthers are famous for.


Now I will agree that the evidence is compelling. But we don't convict in this country without solid proof. And if the evidence was solid enough don't you think that the republicans would be all over him like white on rice?
He'd be impeached for real if this was true.


The "evidence" is not even compelling. You wasted a bit of time with this bone.


Now that being said. I'm intrigued about the halo effect around the letters and also the whole issue with his social number being from CT?


I am not because I read hundreds of pages on both issues here on ATS already. Both have been explained above and beyond my wildest expectations. If the other side comprehends what they read as well as you, I can only hope for the future.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by grey580
I've opened up the pdf file in illustrator.

here is the xml data from the pdf.


Now all you have to do is read this 112 page thread where all your questions have already been answered.
Birther thread

Or you can explain why after 100+ pages of people pointing out why your questions do not matter was a good reason to just start over again in a different place. Either thing will work well.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:30 AM
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I'm not an american, so don't assume you know where my loyalties lay. I'm looking at this from an outsider view, and sure the goverment dropped the ball on this whole issue, but this is just getting stupid.
Again you are free in believing what you will, there is no way a birther can be swayed. So please continue, I will look out for the things that really matter.

I'm done here


OnlyLove.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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Why don't you people just admit that you don't think Oboma should be in the 'White House' because he's black. No other president in history has ever had to present his long form b.c. to the media ever. PROOF!!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! Wow that must be true if he's using all those exclamation points!!! God you people are stupid. Your the same people who are attacking him for not releasing the osoma photos. But if he did you'd say theu'd been doctored. Face it! It just eats you up inside to see a black man in the White House. Just like that South Park episode. Richie Rich etc... I'm glad it eats you up you white trash hillbillies. And by the way guess what he's got a 60% approval rating right now.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by OnlyLove
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


I'm not an american, so don't assume you know where my loyalties lay. I'm looking at this from an outsider view, and sure the goverment dropped the ball on this whole issue, but this is just getting stupid.
Again you are free in believing what you will, there is no way a birther can be swayed. So please continue, I will look out for the things that really matter.

I'm done here


OnlyLove.
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Well, then you are also free to believe what you wish. As I said before, I was suspicious of Berg at first, him being a Democrat and a Hillary supporter and all.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by SlyingFaucers
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You do understand the well documented story of John McCain, right?


Oh well if you have documentation then it is a done deal right there.Maybe someone can point me to the thread where this documentation was gone over with a fine tooth comb. You seem pretty trusting to just accept that McCain was born on a military base. That is not how I hear it.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by Beginningoftheend
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


Why don't you people just admit that you don't think Oboma should be in the 'White House' because he's black. No other president in history has ever had to present his long form b.c. to the media ever. PROOF!!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! Wow that must be true if he's using all those exclamation points!!! God you people are stupid. Your the same people who are attacking him for not releasing the osoma photos. But if he did you'd say theu'd been doctored. Face it! It just eats you up inside to see a black man in the White House. Just like that South Park episode. Richie Rich etc... I'm glad it eats you up you white trash hillbillies. And by the way guess what he's got a 60% approval rating right now.


Enough with the Alinksy Rules alright. That 60% if thats what it really is, is just a temporary bump in the polls. Even some of his leftist base may not vote for him again. And certainly, the Republicans who voted for him over McCain probably wont again either. All that Marxist hope and change goes only so far. By the way, all the hype about Change is typical Marxist leftist propaganda.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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It is a forgery, Obama is not president, and all He has signed and done in office is null and void.

Thanks, TA, for this. When I saw in the film where the "D" was an ink scan and the "unham" was clearly added on by pixel (on computer - Wacom tablet, perhaps), there was nothing else I needed to know this was forged.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Beginningoftheend
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


Why don't you people just admit that you don't think Oboma should be in the 'White House' because he's black. No other president in history has ever had to present his long form b.c. to the media ever. PROOF!!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! Wow that must be true if he's using all those exclamation points!!! God you people are stupid. Your the same people who are attacking him for not releasing the osoma photos. But if he did you'd say theu'd been doctored. Face it! It just eats you up inside to see a black man in the White House. Just like that South Park episode. Richie Rich etc... I'm glad it eats you up you white trash hillbillies. And by the way guess what he's got a 60% approval rating right now.


Because it has nothing to do with skin color. Regardless that "No other president in history has ever had to present his long form b.c. to the media ever," no other president had any questions surrounding whether They were eligible based on birth.

And no. It does not eat me up inside that a Human who is not melanin deficient is sitting in the office. It eats me up that someone who would even forge a birth certificate is sitting in that office. And EVERYTHING He has done in that capacity is NULL AND VOID.

And... You presume a lot about others You have never seen. Most of ATS is a far cry from "hillbilly."

I guess it eats You up that there are those of Us who question forgers that You support (though what that says of You is quite poor...).



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by thedeadlyrhythm
reply to post by Runaway1977
 


god, i don't even care about this thread,


Thank you. All sincerity and couched hypocrisy aside, I have read the the information provided. I wanted to discuss it with the folks presenting and backing it. First I wanted to know that they read and understood it. Oddly enough, I still see no evidence of that. Thank you for taking the time to express an opinion you yourself did not care enough to have.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
Afairs like this are like bones that are thrown to us, and we gnaw and keep on gnawing on them, although the fact has long since been established. OF COURSE Obamas Birth Certificate is fake. He is hiding ALL HIS PAST and there are millions of dollars being spent to keep it all hidden. So how could he produce a valid Birth Certificate??


Can you or anyone else prove any of this? Nope because if the stupid little birthers could prove any of it then charges would have been filed.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
I am a real American


That looks a lot like a youtube clip of a firsthand account. I would just like to be clear on the ground rules. Am I supposed to just believe what I hear in a youtube video or not?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:55 AM
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Here is thee website of Phillip Berg's law offices. It might be something for liberals and/or democrats to look at, being Berg is Democrat

obamacrimes.com...

So tell us guys, why Madelyn had to sign the BC?
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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Having a bit of experience with image processing programs, I would say the guy who wrote the article is very convincing.
I downloaded the document for myself a while ago and noticed the incosistencies in the document.
The other things these guys are pointing out seem very valid to me as well.
I haven't checked all of their findings but I assume they are not talking about things that are not actually in the document. That would be very easy to falsify.
I have the opinion that the best solution for this is to just remove that line saying that the potus need to be an american. I mean seriously, look at what happened the last time you guys had a white christian american president. "they" just cant have that anymore

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


It is a forgery, Obama is not president, and all He has signed and done in office is null and void.


Is it a different planet outside your window than I might find outside mine? I understand passion. I understand conviction. I understand being dedicated to a belief. This is a hallucination. I was starting to think that the birther thing was about to start dying down. People seem sick of hearing it. Fewer people believe in it. I was not sure how the die hards might cope with Obama running for a second term and being legally allowed to do it with no contest from even a single Republican in office (they are all part of Bernie Sanders Cabal too - must be a reason he keeps getting elected in the great capitalist US but that is an aside.) So it seems what they are going to do is just pretend. Pretend they turned out to be right. Pretend somehow they have been validated. Pretend Obama is not even president right now. I did not see that coming.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by DarylHamblett
Why can't I just eat my waffle?
Barack Obama
I have a big heart, a kind and gentle soul.
So you go ahead and eat your waffle president snookums, THEN we'll impeach your lying butt!



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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The first thing you see is this fake birth certificate with the HRS from 20 years in the future on it that I have already seen debunked on ATS in a few threads. I really have to wonder why you expert researches spend so much time repeating yourselves and stepping all over each other. If you feel there is something to it, why not add to a thread where the conversation ended with no one able to explain the HRS? Instead of starting all over again, it makes way more sense to go back a and defend an already standing argument. This way it just looks like desperate propaganda and not at all like serious investigation. The remaining few of you should learn to juggle because it is really starting to seem worn instead of cute.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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actually, i think i'm gonna go ahead and not feed more into your game, duder. have a good one. good luck continuing to not really bring new to the table and wasting plenty of energy
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by Beginningoftheend
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


Why don't you people just admit that you don't think Oboma should be in the 'White House' because he's black. No other president in history has ever had to present his long form b.c. to the media ever. PROOF!!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! Wow that must be true if he's using all those exclamation points!!! God you people are stupid. Your the same people who are attacking him for not releasing the osoma photos. But if he did you'd say theu'd been doctored. Face it! It just eats you up inside to see a black man in the White House. Just like that South Park episode. Richie Rich etc... I'm glad it eats you up you white trash hillbillies. And by the way guess what he's got a 60% approval rating right now.


No other President in American History attended a madrasa, was adopted by a foreign national or bowed to a King.
Besides, Obama isn't even African American. And "black" doesn't automatically equal African American anymore then how "white" doesn't automatically mean German American(only 4 US Presidents where German American by the way, even though we are the number 1 "white" ethnicity in this country 42million vs Anglo's 29 million, yet the vast majority of US Presidents have been Angelo's).

If you want to be specific he is half Anglo and half Black Arab. Both peoples who are directly responsible for the enslavement of African Americans. I suppose TPTB find irony in that or something but it is very sad.

But hey because he has the right skin color he can do whatever he wants right? If you want to see a racist bigot I suggest you look in the mirror.




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