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Several million of America's lower class are about to become outsourced to robots

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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Finally,a voice of reasoning besides my own!
I have been appalled by most of the comments
on this thread,shocked even.




posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Some one has got to teach and maintain the robots. We're moving into a world where the people need more technical knowledge and/or creativity. Robots will not be able to write poems or invent algorithms. People will just have to get more technically competent. Just like when computers became mass produced and cheaply available. Now being able to use computers and internet is a necessary skill, and you can bet some jobs were lost.
edit on 18-5-2011 by 547000 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Pretty soon, all merchandise will have the RFID tags. When you walk out of a store, you will be billed automatically to your credit card that is still in your wallet.

No fuss, no muss.

Cashier is a job that is destined for history.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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message to all:

then go out and make your own jobs. stop pretending like you have no idea what to do.

sell something useful. make something useful. raise cattle. makes food for the neighborhood and in turn they will trade with their skills. build a garden and sell crops. learn how to program on the computer. learn electronics and build more efficient generators.

WE ARE NOT HELPLESS. that is what TPTB want you to think. we have billions of people w/ a lot of technical know-how. we can provide for ourselves.

we are not stupid, we don't need this terrible system of monetary confinement. we can make this world the way we want. i promise you that. but everyone just has to do their own share. if everyone takes pulls their own weight we will not need wal-mart.

live on less and live to love the ones around you.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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... We're moving into a world where the people need more technical knowledge and/or creativity. Robots will not be able to write poems or invent algorithms. People will just have to get more technically competent. ...


And TPTB have made very very sure those technically competent are NOT Americans!!!



"For 10 years, William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University, has looked at how U.S. students stack up against students in other countries in math and science. "In fourth-grade, we start out pretty well, near the top of the distribution among countries; by eighth-grade, we're around average, and

by 12th-grade, we're at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa."


:Source


Is it any wonder Corporations now import workers from other countries?


..... Surveys of corporations consistently find that businesses are focused outside • the U.S. to recruit necessary talent. In a 2002 survey, 16 global corporations complained that American schools did not produce students with global skills. United States companies agreed. The survey found that 30 percent of large U.S. companies “believed they had failed to exploit fully their international business opportunities due to insufficient personnel with international skills.” One respondent to the survey even noted, “If I wanted to recruit people who are both technically skilled and culturally aware, I wouldn’t even waste time looking for them on U.S. college campuses.”


...the U.S. ranks 21st out of 29 Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries in mathematics scores, with nearly one-quarter of students unable to solve the easiest level of questions....In 2000, 28 percent of all freshmen entering a degree-granting institution required remedial coursework
www.edreform.com...

So what happened to our education system???



The Dumbing Down of America

Dewey's philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism to socialist materialism, and

the purpose of the school was to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.


In order to do so he analyzed the traditional curriculum that sustained the capitalist, individualistic system and found what he believed was the sustaining linchpin -- that is, the key element that held the entire system together: high literacy. To Dewey, the greatest obstacle to socialism was the private mind that seeks knowledge in order to exercise its own private judgment and intellectual authority. High literacy gave the individual the means to seek knowledge independently. It gave individuals the means to stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. This was detrimental to the "social spirit" needed to bring about a collectivist society. Dewey wrote in Democracy and Education, published in 1916:


When knowledge is regarded as originating and developing within an individual, the ties which bind the mental life of one to that of his fellows are ignored and denied.

When the social quaility of individualized mental operations is denied, it becomes a problem to find connections which will unite an individual with his fellows. Moral individualism is set up by the conscious separation of different centers of life. It has its roots in the notion that the consciousness of each person is wholly private, a self-inclosed continent. intrinsically independent of the ideas, wishes, purposes of everybody else.


And he wrote in School and Society in 1899:


The tragic weakness of the present school is that it endeavors to prepare future members of the social order in a medium in which the conditions of the social spirit are eminently wanting ...

The mere absorbing of facts and truths is so exclusively individual an affair that it tends very naturally to pass into selfishness. There is no obvious social motive for the acquirement of merely learning, there is no clear social gain....


It seems incredible that a man of Dewey's intelligence could state that the sort of traditional education that produced our founding fathers and the wonderful inventors of the 19th century lacked "social spirit" when it was these very individuals who created the freest, happiest, and most prosperous nation in all of human history....

And so, high literacy had to go

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Dewey wrote in 1896, after the Laboratory School had been in operation for nine months:


It is one of the great mistakes of education to make reading and writing constitute the bulk of the school work the first two years. The true way is to teach them incidentally as the outgrowth of the social activites at this time. Thus language is not primarily the expression of thought, but the means of social communication ... If language is abstracted from social activity, and made an end in itself, it will not give its whole value as a means of development ... It is not claimed that by the method suggested, the child will learn to read as much, nor perhaps as readily in a given period as by the usual method.

www.ordination.org...




...In 1905, American Fabians established the Rand School of [Social Science] in New York City. On September 12, 1905, five of the Fabians met at Peck's Restaurant in New York's Lower Manhattan: Upton Sinclair (well-known author and socialist), Jack London (well-known fiction writer), Rev. Thomas Wentworth Higginson (a Unitarian minister), J.G. Phelps Stokes, and Clarence Darrow (legendary lawyer). They incorporated the Intercollegiate Socialist Society for the purpose of promoting "an intelligent interest in socialism among college men and women," and established chapters at Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, New York University, and the University of Pennsylvania. Their true purpose was to begin de-Christianizing America.

One of its founding members was John Dewey, the father of progressive education, whose philosophy consisted of "atheism, socialism and evolution." In 1921, they changed their name to the League for Industrial Democracy, whose purpose was "education for a new social order based on production for use and not for profit." They established a network of 125 chapters. Dewey would later serve as its Vice-President, and in 1941, became its President.... www.modernhistoryproject.org...



The Fabians founded the London School of Economics and are intertwined with the banking community starting with the Rothschilds.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
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What?Do you seriously believe that ANYTHING is done
for the "good" of the population?
How long do you think that the government can support
all these people so "they" can pursue other avenues of life?
How long do you think it would take for these people to
be considered a burden to society?
How long do you think it would be before these, burdens to
society, would finally have to be eliminated for the greater
good?Anyone else thinking about the georgia guidestones?


if computers were to replace all those low wage earnings, then computers would also replace many of the higher income earners....
it's possible to computerize so much that we would need very few actual humans working.
those that do need actual humans would be from both classes of people, higher and lower incomes, highly educated, and not so highly educated. part of the minimum educational requirements would be adequate training to fill a few of these positions. and well, these positions would be filled on a rotating basis...so, well, if one person were to be considered a burden then everyone would be considered a burden, unless of course, you are thinking that it would be the computers doing the considering??
for the past few decades, at least in america, we have spent alot of taxpayer money "creating jobs", and well, these job creation programs many times produced very little bang for the buck!! we have a good portion of the population inactive a good part of the time, while others have been working full time day in and day out for most of their lives....
why???
why not we all just work part time, and well, have everyone working less hours, still would be paying the same amount of money out, but well, everyone would have time to explore their reality, themselves, learn new things, maybe become better people, better workers. again, most of these jobs that are "created" cost way more to create than they pay back, you send the welfare mom to work,and well, she often doesn't even make enough to pay for the child care...all because we have this insane idea that to work is "good". never mind, that you had to hire someone do to the work that she was originally doing...she's going to that minimum wage job, so all it well..
the way we've been doing things obviously hasn't worked.....maybe it's time to think outside of the box!!



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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I'm deeply disturbed by a lot of your comments...how you are so easily able to belittle people for how they make their money.

You do realize, Mister or Miss Condescension, that a lot of these people working for McDonald's are either high school students, college students, or retired men and women trying to subsidize their social security wages? Or men and women with college degrees who lost jobs or had desire to stay with the company and now run multi-million dollar businesses?

You people act like you can be a complete moron to do these jobs. And I bet every single one of you go to these places and treat these workers like they are less than you.

I'll never understand how ignorant people are, or how judgmental. Disgusting. It makes me hope that all these doom day prophesies most on here salivate at the thought of come true. Humanity has lost it's ability to be human.

As for the bringing in of machines to do the job, it's never going to eliminate the human element. Shrink it, sure. But never eliminate.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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I have to admit......i do prefer stores with self checkout, on one hand it's awesome, it's convienent on the other hand.....it loses jobs




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