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United Kingdom needs to do something now before its too late !!

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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by anonymous1
I wouldn't blame the foreigner's , i would blame the government for making it that way.


Personally I agree with you on that part... there is only one place to lay the blame for this happening.. at the feet of the Government (no matter the coloured tie they wear they are all the same corrupt twazuks)

We need a fundamental ground up reform of the way the government works for us (or not as is the current situation)




posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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The OP is riddled with spelling mistakes and errors with regards to grammar.
Probably the OP'er is on basic take home pay because he can't handle anything complicated and lacks qualifications.
Yes the UK is damaging itself beyond repair.
Yes there is a huge excess of immigrants in the UK.
Yes a UK citizen should have priority over an immigrant.
Yes i am bloody glad i got out 14 years ago.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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America is battling against illegal immigration and are in the same boat as England. There is a double standard and illegals are treated better than the citizens. It is a shame that our Countries have let us down.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Uh, how comes the 10 guys can get a council flat if their income is so high? Just go and report them, the govt is happy to cut everything that is wrong, and ask the money back if given unfair. Remember - the governments are money grabbers!



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by bigbiy666
Hear hear. Every word you wrote is true. I am in the same boat. I live in devon bud and i have to pay 625 per month. Not rite...


I am also in Devon just outside Exeter, the cost of housing here has zero to do with immigration it is the white middle class with their second/holiday homes who make this one of the most least affordable housing areas in the country.

If I am not mistaken the UK has had a history of immigration going back hundreds of years, the mess we are in has nothing to do with immigrants. It is sucessive governments messiing up.
As for having a socialist government we haven't had a true socialst government for many a year (in reply to a poster other than the OP)



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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OP once anecdote from the 80's when my parents were in a similar situation.

They went to the council for housing assistance. in the waiting room was a family with 3 kids. father wearing a full length leather trench coat. regardless of the fashion crime it means it was not cheap. The kids playing on the floor and stuffing their face with monster munch.

When they saw the housing officer, the response they got was, no, we won't house you. When asked why the response they got was.

You see them? (meaning the family with the expensive coat and at the time expensive crisps) they won''t work. you will, so they get the house, and we know you will find work!

And this was in the 80's

Point is the working man has always got the short straw, despite being the one paying into the system, he is the least likely to be allowed to take back out.

It's a corrupt foul system. And I know that what you see are the foreigners. I too find it strange. my wife was an immigrant, and in the years preceding her assent to British Citizenship, her visa stated

"No Recourse to Public Funds"

So it does make me wonder how these guys are allowed But do not think for a second that it is solely restricted to Foreigners. As it isn't and that road leads to nowhere good.

PS. the Coat / Crisp family were white.

Cheers
JF



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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The NWO has set this up as a Euro-wide jihad/civilwar using the left as usefull dupes to facilitate this, by selling it to them as PC Multiculturalism - a way to dismantle the status quo hegemony.

It will begin in mainland Europe first with the invasion of millions of muslims fleeing the results of Israel using its sampson option - it will be a war of complete extermination fought with primative weapons set amidst social collapse and famine.

The UK should fare a lot better being relatively innacsessable - and it looks like the gov has cut a deal with Russia as tothe aftermath of all this.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Just curious...OP, you were in the army?. Why are you no longer in the army? what does it say on your discharge papers?



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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I'll tell you how they do it......

there's 10+ living in a tiny 2 bdm house, most probably at least 7-8 of them working and saving together as a family, some of the work they do is cash under the table jobs, pay little in tax (not declaring most of the income), live in housing commission...much the same way as the Asians do it.

Yep, after 2-3 years you too would be able to afford a nice car and some real estate



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Dude I'm sorry that you served your country and they have no regard for you. It sounds totally unfair but things here in the US aren't much different and from what I read they are as bad in Australia also.

Why did you quit the service? It may have unfortunately been your best option. I hope you find a way to make it. Anyone that works hard and is honest used to be able to make it in the old days. Hard work and honesty seem to get you punished now days.

Fight the good fight and do what you know is right. Someone will surely notice eventually.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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You are a real tool to judge this man not knowing him personally. Geez dude, how would you feel?



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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lve said it before, ill say it again labour, tory, liberal, all the same tossers, lying cheating spineless bastard criminals the only way out of this is to vote totally different what else have we to lose either join the bnp or the british constitutional group, we need a serious amount of people to wake up in this country and to wake up soon, this isnt about racism its about whats bloody fair, end of story.
we all need to start enlightening people slowly, when you see a video that makes you angry you know the ones send them to all your friends it will slowly start to change the way people think, hell the ptb do it to us subtle mind controll well fight fire with fire, just to finish there is an excellent video on david icke headlines today, check it out and send it to all that you know, ive just sent it to my mp, they also need to wake the f@@k up as to how we are starting to feel www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by andy1972
The OP is riddled with spelling mistakes and errors with regards to grammar.
Probably the OP'er is on basic take home pay because he can't handle anything complicated and lacks qualifications.
Yes the UK is damaging itself beyond repair.
Yes there is a huge excess of immigrants in the UK.
Yes a UK citizen should have priority over an immigrant.
Yes i am bloody glad i got out 14 years ago.


Yes my spelling and grammer is not too good thanks but you got what i mean. And also can i ask what you do for a living, as the job i do is a simi skiled job just the company takes the piss due to its a job, Also to give you a summery on what i do for a living i work running SMT machines and placing serface mount components on PCB boards, holding a component so small you have to pick it up with tweesers and soldering it to a pcb board is quite a skill, Also as i said i work every hour i can and that includes building and fixing computers localy and writing websites for small companys but as times are hard there is not much work atall and companys at the moment are droping all over the country not just the SE its just hard. Obviously i would love to go back to collage but i just cant get 3k just like that for doing it i have a family to support and as long as my little one gets her dinner and clean water i dont care if i pick up rubbish or even clean a bog. But the most important fact is because someone cant spell great and upto your standerds would that make any diffrence to working??? NO if they was not working then you would say ohh hear it comes a rant from a social security spunge and then your next line would be GET A JOB anyway would you ask a bin man for his gcse's before he pickes up your rubbish? no so because someone can spell correctly they cant have any expectations? bit of a harsh comment mate. i work my ass off to do my best for my family just l;ike you would a job is a job and spelling means jack as long as the food is on the table mate.
edit on 17-5-2011 by johnaldo165 because: spelling mistake



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by sensairich
reply to post by TIMEZaCHANGIN
 


lve said it before, ill say it again labour, tory, liberal, all the same tossers, lying cheating spineless bastard criminals the only way out of this is to vote totally different what else have we to lose either join the bnp or the british constitutional group, we need a serious amount of people to wake up in this country and to wake up soon, this isnt about racism its about whats bloody fair, end of story.
we all need to start enlightening people slowly, when you see a video that makes you angry you know the ones send them to all your friends it will slowly start to change the way people think, hell the ptb do it to us subtle mind controll well fight fire with fire, just to finish there is an excellent video on david icke headlines today, check it out and send it to all that you know, ive just sent it to my mp, they also need to wake the f@@k up as to how we are starting to feel www.youtube.com...


I will vote BNP next time round. Before we help others we need to sort our own out first and thats fact !!!



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by TechUnique
I think what you really have to worry about is the rate at which immigrants are breeding. Mathematically its insane. Islamic families alone will overthrow this country in the future merely by numbers.


Thats the big picture and yes if we do not do something now its too late and as i said IF they get into power of this country then its game over it will be just like home to them. Hear and now it needs to stop



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by johnaldo165

Originally posted by andy1972
The OP is riddled with spelling mistakes and errors with regards to grammar.
Probably the OP'er is on basic take home pay because he can't handle anything complicated and lacks qualifications.
Yes the UK is damaging itself beyond repair.
Yes there is a huge excess of immigrants in the UK.
Yes a UK citizen should have priority over an immigrant.
Yes i am bloody glad i got out 14 years ago.


Yes my spelling and grammer is not too good thanks but you got what i mean. And also can i ask what you do for a living, as the job i do is a simi skiled job just the company takes the piss due to its a job, Also to give you a summery on what i do for a living i work running SMT machines and placing serface mount components on PCB boards, holding a component so small you have to pick it up with tweesers and soldering it to a pcb board is quite a skill, Also as i said i work every hour i can and that includes building and fixing computers localy and writing websites for small companys but as times are hard there is not much work atall and companys at the moment are droping all over the country not just the SE its just hard. Obviously i would love to go back to collage but i just cant get 3k just like that for doing it i have a family to support and as long as my little one gets her dinner and clean water i dont care if i pick up rubbish or even clean a bog. But the most important fact is because someone cant spell great and upto your standerds would that make any diffrence to working??? NO if they was not working then you would say ohh hear it comes a rant from a social security spunge and then your next line would be GET A JOB anyway would you ask a bin man for his gcse's before he pickes up your rubbish? no so because someone can spell correctly they cant have any expectations? bit of a harsh comment mate. i work my ass off to do my best for my family just l;ike you would a job is a job and spelling means jack asling as the food is on the table mate.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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Dude, just a tip, if you can stand it. although you say you already work all the hours god sends. But it you and your little family can stomach it for a while. Try bar work additional to you main job.

I work in aircraft engineering, and when I was getting married the pay was not enough. I needed a second job. So I went working in the local pub. minimum wage of course (actually 10p over)

I worked Monday Tuesday Wednesday and Friday (20 - 01) - 5 hous x 4 = 20
Sat = 11 - 19 = 8
Sun = 12 - 20 = 8

I was pulling an extra 36 hours a week on-top of my normal job. the pay helped pay for the wedding. and the tips help subsidise my daily expenses. I was pulling average 30-50 quid a week in tips (tax free) but you know what. I loved it. It was a great time.

So give a little smile, have a chat, pull a good pint, and as Tescos say. Every little helps

You like me, you're a grafter. So screw the leeches and you do what you do best. and that, in the end is the best thing you can do.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
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Dude, just a tip, if you can stand it. although you say you already work all the hours god sends. But it you and your little family can stomach it for a while. Try bar work additional to you main job.

I work in aircraft engineering, and when I was getting married the pay was not enough. I needed a second job. So I went working in the local pub. minimum wage of course (actually 10p over)

I worked Monday Tuesday Wednesday and Friday (20 - 01) - 5 hous x 4 = 20
Sat = 11 - 19 = 8
Sun = 12 - 20 = 8

I was pulling an extra 36 hours a week on-top of my normal job. the pay helped pay for the wedding. and the tips help subsidise my daily expenses. I was pulling average 30-50 quid a week in tips (tax free) but you know what. I loved it. It was a great time.

So give a little smile, have a chat, pull a good pint, and as Tescos say. Every little helps

You like me, you're a grafter. So screw the leeches and you do what you do best. and that, in the end is the best thing you can do.



cheers for the comment bro really aprichate it. Yeah iv been with my miss's for almost 5 years and yeah were in a situation which is a bigger place which is going to cost for a 2 bedroom place £750 months rent + £750 depsite + £200 estate angency fee's s £1700 just to move as well as moving cost's so wedding is a way away yet as bigger place for my lil 1 comes first. But as i was saying at first it should not be like this i should get help with getting into a place but the local council just will not help but if i ticked the african box i might get help quicker which stinks BIG TIME.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by anonymous1
I wouldn't blame the foreigner's , i would blame the government for making it that way.


People have been blaming Johnny foreigner for everything in the UK for the past 60 years, it's nothing new, just comes to a head when the economy is on its knees. Someones got to take the blame, immigrants are an easy target.


except the level of immigration post 1997 has been quite remarkable, dwarfing anything up to this point from the second world war



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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If you are as you say you are, ie in a relationship, with a child then you are being a little bit dishonest with your post. Firstly you will not just be getting your minimum wage, you will be getting state benefits on top of that, such as child allowance, working tax credit, family tax credit which bumps up your take home pay. Added to that being on minimum wage you are entitled to rent rebate from your local council which will reduce your rent burden.

Council houses and housing association property is distributed based on need, it is the same all over the country and it is not based on race at all, you have accommodation that is sufficient for your families needs, whether or not you can afford the rent does not come into a councils equations. Priority is always given to those most in need, whether or not they currently are homeless, likely to be come homeless, are there child protection issues ect. The reason your rent is not taken into consideration is because people are expected to take property within their means, and if on minimum wage there is the safety net of rent rebate and council tax rebate.

The rest is just poor unadulterated racism, you don't even understand anything about the people next door to your friend, stating 10+ "Indians" and spending their spare money on a mosque? Indians are NOT Muslims, they are mostly Hindu. It is easy to blame someone just because they look different or act different, the fact most Asian families are successful is because of their family values, the whole family works, puts into a kitty and then as the money builds they either invest it in a new home or a new business, they work damn long hours normally.

I remember back in the 70's the local shops all shut at 5:30 religiously, half day Wednesday, and never ever opened on a Sunday, then the Asian families moved in, opened from 8AM - 10PM, 7 days a week, they never stop grafting and good luck to them, they work hard so deserve what they get. You say 10+ in a house they will all be working towards the family benefit, putting up with cramped conditions just to get ahead.

And besides the biggest pressure we have had on jobs is from eastern Europe with Poles, Latvian s etc., nice white folks unlike those funny yellow people.

The problems are not caused by immigrants, they are caused by greedy corporations and banks along with corrupt governments, and until people grasp that nothing will change



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