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reply to post by doctornamtab
And personally, I dont believe in going to doctors. I havent been to one in a decade. Luckily I havent had any major ailments but I stay healthy. Its hard work but its better than doctor visits, hospital bills and feeling like a lardo all the time.
Originally posted by babybunnies
By refusing patients treatment, they are not doing harm. The patients have already done the harm to themselves.
There is a very big difference to not doing harm and refusing to treat self inflicted damage duie to stupidity and ignorance.
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
In the UK at the moment, it is becoming increasingly common for NHS surgeons to recommend stomach stapling surgery for obese people. The idea is that if you treat these people by effectively reducing the size of their stomachs, the patient will be less of a burden to the health system by avoiding getting diabetes, which is a chronic long term illness. In the long run it is a cost saving measure, but still displays a level of compassion us in the UK take pride in.
A review of medical research involving 135,000 patients found that the symptoms of diabetes were resolved or improved in a majority of those who had bariatric surgery to help to lose weight.
Overall, 78 per cent of patients had a “complete resolution” of their diabetes for up to two years after surgery, while 87 per cent experienced either resolution or an improvement in their condition.
www.timesonline.co.uk...
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by dolphinfan
Until Lord Obama mandates Doctors to treat everyone.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Blogstalker
No, the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. There is nothing in there about not treating people.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Blogstalker
No, the Hippocratic Oath is to do no harm. There is nothing in there about not treating people.
The grey area then becomes:
If a doctor could help someone, but refuses to do so - for whatever reason - does that constitute "doing harm"?
Originally posted by hadriana
I wonder how much of it is age discrimination in disquise?
After all, the older people are, the more likely they are to become obese.
Older mothers are the ones with increased birth complications.
What about the babies?
Did they do it to themselves too?
There's so little compassion in America. That's why America is going to fail. When you hate and hate and hate and keep finding reaasons to hate, and you spread this lie that hate is ok, well, it has a way of turning right back on you.
Originally posted by macman
So, refusing to interact with equals hate?
How is that.
That is a broad statement.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by centurion1211
No. I believe that in its current form, it revolves around the physical action not doing further harm. Not withholding.
When one reviews the oath it is often difficult to grasp due the the unnecessarily irritating and inciting phraseology. I was able to find an altered version of the Physician’s Oath from the University of Washington’s Medical Program, to bring its words and ideas into consonance with today’s trends:
At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession;
I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity.
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;
I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity;
The health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will respect the secrets, which are confided in me;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honor and the noble traditions of the medical profession;
My colleagues will be my sisters and brothers;
I will respect and value the lives of all persons;
I will not discriminate against any person in medical decisions;
I will maintain the utmost respect for human life; even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity.
I make these promises solemnly, freely, and upon my honor.
I believe that every physician should inform their patient of all legal medical options, and not take second the health of the patient. If the physician is not comfortable with the procedure than by all means refer them to another physician that can help them.
Originally posted by dolphinfan
Having a child while obese is selfish, foolish and irresponsible. A responsible woman who is obese would place herself on birth control. Does that mean that fat people should not have children? Yes, as long as they're fat. I