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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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As a Herpetologist I have access to many different publications. I have searched several herp. sites including the American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists(ASIH) and the Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles(SSAR), as well as "Reptile magazine" and have found no evidence of strange reptiles to the area. There is Gopherus agassizii, or the Desert Tortoise,a species of tortoise native to the Mojave desert and Sonoran desert of the southwestern United States and northwestern Mexico. They are rare and on the endangered species list, but not limited to the Zone of Silence.

As for the Purple Cactus it is found in desert or semi-arid regions world wide.

The statement of strange animals and plants is found in the video and multiple "strange but true" sites yet I can not find any scientific evidence that this is true other than rare but regionally found and not out of the ordinary.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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I think you give people here too much credit. Most are just political trolls and couldn't care any less about this stuff. I know its off topic and not necessary but I found some humor in it.

How do you know the intentions of "most" people on ATS?


Well, I obviously don't...

It was an assumption based on the posts I've seen in my time here. And I know for a fact many people find these topics interesting, myself included.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Where are the pictures of the mutations? How did the History Channel's equipment continue to work? Where is the video of compass failure? Where is any evidence? What's with all the wild speculation? Are there naturally occurring light phenomena? Is this a tourist destination? Is this an attempt to shift blame for an errant missile?
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Be a nice place to camp for night and see where the portal or anomaly might be.
Wonder what else the Zone of Silence might hold?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Thats a chinese army base...over 10,000 vehicles seen in that area alone...guarded by federales....thats proven



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
Thats a chinese army base...over 10,000 vehicles seen in that area alone...guarded by federales....thats proven


Evidence please.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by gentledissident
Where are the pictures of the mutations? How did the History Channel's equipment continue to work? Where is the video of compass failure? Where is any evidence? What's with all the wild speculation? Are there naturally occurring light phenomena? Is this a tourist destination? Is this an attempt to shift blame for an errant missile?
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Well, they did video a compass spinning while being held completely still...so, thats at least one question down.

I think also the phenomona creates a radio dead zone and magnetic "nerfification (my word)" I don't think that would interfere with photographic and video equiptment, especially modern digital methods....so, potentially 2 of your questions answered.

someone else can hit the rest if they have any further info



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by FreedomCommander
Be a nice place to camp for night and see where the portal or anomaly might be.


So...your last thought would be "oh wow look at that, this spot does attract meteorites"



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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I decided to look at the latitude and longitude in respect of the Great Pyramids of Egypt.

If you stay on the same latitude, a third of the way around the planet from the Pyramids of Egypt, puts you in the northern middle of the Gulf of Mexico, surprisingly close to last years massive oil spill from the bottom of the Gulf. About 500 miles to the west is the Zone of Silence, globally speaking, about a third of the way around the planet from the Pyramids of Egypt, and 500 miles to the east of last years oil spill is the center of the Bermuda Triangle. Another third of the way around the planet on the same latitude, is a small group of Islands south of Japan which include Iwo Jima.

Ah, and here is where the mystery deepens. Apparently near Iwo Jima is the Devils Sea Triangle, which is apparently similar to the Bermuda Triangle.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


The highest energy areas seem to center near the 31.7 degree (Positive) or 25 degree (Negative) parallels - North and South:

There are 5 areas of the Northern Hemisphere near 25 North that may be doors to other dimensions, often called "Vile Vortices" (Vile may be too strong a term):

Bermuda Triangle (planes & ships disappear in green fog)

Algerian Megalithic Ruins (South of Timbuktu)

Karachi (Pakistan) [site of Mohenjo Daro - Rama culture, the ancient origins of Hindu culture]

Devil's Sea Triangle (near Iwo Jima, Japan) (planes & ships disappear - Japan officially calls dangerous)

Hamakulia, S.E. Hawaii (heaviest volcanic activity) - actually, the focal point is in the ocean, more to the SE of Hawaii. It is in the Ocean, where some ships and planes have disappeared in the past.

There are 5 areas of the Northern Hemisphere near 31.7 North that are Positive healing Energy Vortices:

Between Sedona, AZ & Sonora, Mexico (31.7N 112.8W) - Hopi & Yaqui Indian, Hohokom waterworks, Sedona Healing Vortex (& magnetic anomalies at Torreon, Mexico?)

The calculated Vortex Focus is near the Papago Indian Reservation, W of Tucson, AZ, S of Pisinimo/W. of Cowlic/Vamori/Little Tucson

According to Ken Eagle Feather, in "A Toltec Path" p.11, Castenada's Books on Don Juan (Matus) were centered here (mid-Atlantic, Atlantis per Edgar Cayce - "the position ... Atlantis occupied is between the Gulf of Mexico ... and the Mediterranean")

Egypt - Pyramids (focus Energy)

Himalayas, N.E. of Lhasa (Tibet) - Center for Tibetan Enlightenment - also, not far from Xi'an Pyramids in China. Home of the Panda and ancient irrigation systems and Midway Island


Very interesting stuff. It seems we have a split in the Western Hemisphere, from the center of the one third point. I wonder what that could mean.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Long time lurker here! Interesting thread, I enjoyed reading through it and learning a little bit more about this wacky world we live in.

Unfortunately, I think you guys are getting pretty hyped up for what is essentially a tourist destination. I can't complain about that part, tourist destinations can be pretty awesome and I've certainly been to a ton throughout my life and I'm sure I'll go to many more. The problem, though, is that tourists to this Zone of Silence (the locals actually have names for these tourists, "silencios" and "zoneros") are causing quite a bit of harm to this nature reserve. Outside of the littering and the destruction of the natural beauty of the environment, they have a habit of stressing out the scant local help by running out of gas in the middle of nowhere, running out of water creating risk to themselves and in turn needing rescue and messing with the cattle which is the livelihood of the local population.

Now, this may be something to look beyond if there certainly was something mysterious and unexplained going on. God knows mankind has thrown caution to the wind in pursuit of scientific understanding and advancement in the past. The problem, though, is that there is no real evidence of anything strange going on in the area. Anthropologist and ex-manager of the nature reserve that the Zone of Silence resides in had this to say:



Neither I nor anyone with whom I spoke (apart from the zoneros) had any trouble with either their radios or compasses while working in the Reserve.

www.mexconnect.com...

For someone who actually managed the area, I'm sure radio communication would be essential in a place where a flat tire could mean life or death.

Another thing that should tip people off that this "Zone of Silence" isn't all that it seems is that no one can really agree where the Zone of Silence is actually located. It was originally around the area where the US missile crashed decades ago, but the Zone has shifted around quite a bit since then. From my reading around, it seems that guides in the area trying to make a quick buck will pretty much take people anywhere within the reserve and claim that it's the Zone of Silence (the signs marking the Zone of Silence as seen in the OP are few and far between and don't really end at any particular place, so it's easy to say they lead to just about anywhere). In fact, if you ask one of the locals where the Zone is, you'll often find out that the Zone is "just down the road" (hint: they're trying to get you to leave).

I certainly don't want to convince anyone not to go and check it out for themselves. I'm just willing to bet that upon arrival, you're going to have trouble finding this Zone and in the meantime, you're not going to experience any sort of phenomena that's out of the ordinary, except maybe not getting a signal on your cell phone due to being out in the middle of nowhere. You should go to take in a very unique geographical region and the natural beauty that mother nature has to offer.

As for the locals...

The local residents do not believe in the Zone of Silence. When asked about strange phenomena, they invariably reply that they do not see strange things in the desert, only strange people.

www.mexconnect.com...

Once again, thanks for the thread.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Maybe there's an underground alien base with some sort of technology that's purposefully taking out any electronic device but their own,so that you can't detect them?

Maybe the aliens they saw were actually people?But because of living underground their looks changed over time.

Or maybe it's just the magnetism of earth that's causing it somehow?



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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upon further investigation into the claim that there is a Chinese military base or other base in the area I found these...

The Mexican government has built a research laboratory known as the “biosphere” at the Zone of Silence to study the strange effects of the area. Supposedly they are studying the strange and unusual biological life forms found there, including the prickly purple cactus and mutated turtles and reptiles. There are rumors that this “biosphere” isn’t just studying the life and flora only. The Mexican government keeps a tight watch on the laboratory and all visitors. Hmmm. Sounds like some experiments are going on.
www.unsolvedrealm.com... Sorry to all the people that want to go camping but hey they may let you.

As for Proof the Chinese are in Mexico, you decide if it is true...www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Maybe we can find some official source confirmation of this laboratory...



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Interesting thread. Sounds like alto of crazy stuff is happening there. Secret labs and mutated animals. Will give me something to research.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by FreedomCommander
Be a nice place to camp for night and see where the portal or anomaly might be.
Wonder what else the Zone of Silence might hold?


The reality is, I 'd probably chicken straight the hell out if the oppertunity even presented itself to me.

You really could put together a sweet sightseeing tour of these mysterious places if you had the funds and time.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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It is on Google maps just south of these coordinates: 26.691389,-103.745556

In Google Earth there is a photo.


I also found the lab goes by a different name, so that might help with info searches.

The zone's somewhat foreboding name has been changed to Mar de Tetys--The Sea of Thetys, due to the fact that it was once under water millions of years ago--and the research lab has been dubbed the "biosphere".

Source



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/11.../110103.ALERTS.2.html



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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I have not found anything more than what OneisOne has found on the research center but I will continue searching.
I have begun the tedious process of translating Mexican documents on the subject.

In the mean time you may be interested in this...... Infrasound Propagation in the “Zone of Silence”

Edit to say: I realize this document is not associated with the location being discussed but it has some interesting information that may be being researched or studied in attempting to understand the area or implications of creating an area such as the one in Mexico.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Lol my intentions weren't to be rude. The motto of this site is "Deny Ignorance." ...that doesn't just mean ignorance as far as world events and conspiracy related subjects...

ignorance • lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant

You didn't realize that what you took the time to type out was wrong and I pointed it out. I don't understand how that's rude. Why does society consider it rude to point out a blatant wrong? That's why the country is in the state its in now, nobody wants to be told that they're wrong. I didn't take away from your thread, I even PRAISED the subject matter. Then I added my thoughts and kept it moving. If you are "offended", I'm sorry lol.

I'll continue to Deny Ignorance and encourage others to do the same, whether its seen as rude or helpful. Have a nice night.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
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Originally posted by Watts
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Interesting thread, I just wish you would have skipped trying to make it sound overly intelligent because it caused you to make a lot of grammatical and syntax errors which made it rougher to read in some spots than it needed to be. No need to try to impress anyone on ATS, just write normal, we'll still S&F.

"Particularly sightings of strange anomlous lights in the skies are sighted"
"Some even claim to have seen objects rise from one of the nearby lakes here among seeing actual beings in separate incidents also"
"Strikes hit here"


Like I said, interesting subject, I had forgotten about this weird desert area. Its almost like a mini Bermuda triangle on land. Just keep it simple next time, this isn't a scientific journal.
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Perhaps this is overly difficult for you to understand, but his thread reads fine to me.
Being here 1 month. Im sure RA and the rest of us who enjoy his threads, appreciate your advice.

BTW maybe I'm dumb, but I thought a syntax error was error of language resulting from code that does not conform to the syntax of the programming language...maybe you can enlighten us on what you are talking about? actually don't, you'd be off topic.
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I'll refer you to my reply to the OP: www.abovetopsecret.com...
and definition of syntax here since its such an issue:
dictionary.reference.com...

Example, he said:
"Strikes hit here on a daily occurrence..."
...how can a "strike" hit? A strike is a hit. and "on a daily occurrence" isn't correct english.
Like I told the OP, I wasn't insulting about it in anyway, I pointed out the errors, added my thoughts and kept it moving. To be angry and offended because someone points out obvious errors is childish and one of the main problems in America today. Nobody wants to be told they're wrong ever, even if the proof of "wrongness" is readily available. A simple copy and paste into MS Word will show you but no, you'll remain offended and continue to defend a wrong and imply that I'm out of line for not being nurturing of it.

The motto of this site is "DENY IGNORANCE." If it was "DEFEND IGNORANCE", I would understand your stance. But its not, therefore I don't.





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