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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by nenothtu
That right there refutes the "living document" argument. It states plainly that laws are to be measured against the Constitution, NOT that the Constitution is to be warped or "interpreted" to fit the new laws.
Are you un-puzzled now that I've spelled it out and held your hand through it?
Ummm...no.
You give any written document to 10 people...and then see if they all "interpret" it the same way.
You can tell from this thread and others...many people have disagreements as to what certain parts of the Constitution is saying.
That is the purpose of the SCOTUS...to have the final INTERPRETATION.
This is basic stuff.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by Realms
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Do you pay into social security? Medicare? Unemployment insurance?
Do you have a choice in the matter? Is there an opt out program I don't know about?
No...you don't.
You must be outraged.
Originally posted by TKDRL
I have never been able to afford health insurance in my life.... And even I know this obamacare is a disaster waiting to happen. I understand one of the main reasons why the medical and health insurance prices are so high. Government interference.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Nice, you actually answered a question.
No, you are wrong. We the people are the holders of it. Not the Govt. That is why it was designed for anyone to read and understand. There is supposed to be Judicial restraint applied, not activist on the benches viewing each case compared to foreign law, case law and the like. The Judges life should be very simple. Does it go against the law and/or Constitution? In this case, with Obamacare, yes it goes against both.
What you pitch is Rule of Man, as man is the Judges.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Luckily, your opinion holds no weight.
Be my guest...you go ahead and go against a SCOTUS ruling, claiming you KNOW what the Constitution really meant....let me know how that turns out for you.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
just because the government does something that is against the constitution doesn't make it legal after the fact. it is currently not in the power of the u.s. government to do this under the constitution, yet they did it. they all broke their oaths of office, and the only way to fix the problem is to get rid of everyone in all political offices, and put in honest, hard working americans who don't have connections to big corporations. people with a backbone.
they are traitors to america. both legally and morally. sellouts.
I defer to the SCOTUS to make that decision.
I apologize if I don't hold your opinion credible.
I'll ask you the exact same thing...will you accept the SCOTUS ruling on the law?
Yep, holy then thou.
My opinion is false, crap, wrong and so on.
Your opinion on the other hand is always right, the truth as if handed down by God and such.
Not only are you full of crap, you are full of your self as well.
While you suggest that some honor the founders as Gods, it looks like you bow to the alter of the Judicial System.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by macman
Yep, holy then thou.
My opinion is false, crap, wrong and so on.
Your opinion on the other hand is always right, the truth as if handed down by God and such.
Not only are you full of crap, you are full of your self as well.
Not true...I fully admit that my opinion holds no weight in the real world either.
That is why I defer to the SCOTUS...and I am more than happy to accept their decision.
If I disagree with their decision...then I disagree...but that doesn't mean that I will claim they are invalid or corrupt.
Now...the same simple question I have asked repeatedly. Can you accept their decision??? Or will you be the one that is full of your self???
Originally posted by fooks
ya, really bad looking.
anyone mention congress don't have to have the bamacare?
or anyone in the senate too?
You twist and contort more then a tantrum driven 4 year old.
I do not need any activist Judge to tell me whats right and whats wrong.
I don't need the Govt telling this either. They work for me, not for their own interests.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by macman
You twist and contort more then a tantrum driven 4 year old.
I do not need any activist Judge to tell me whats right and whats wrong.
I don't need the Govt telling this either. They work for me, not for their own interests.
There is no need for name calling...can you not discuss things in a civil way?
It appears it is YOU that is the one that believes their opinion is always right...not me.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by fooks
ya, really bad looking.
anyone mention congress don't have to have the bamacare?
or anyone in the senate too?
Are you kidding?
Why would the Politicians want this crap? They dish it out to the huddles masses and wait for the awe inspired look of worship from those not in the upper crust loop.
You twist and contort more then a tantrum driven 4 year old.