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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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WHY was this moved to rant?!

Seriously ATS? WTH!

This is a social situation for god's sake and it isn't the first time something like this has happened.

I thought rant was to rant about something that is pissing you off? This is an actual story! The teacher should be fired.

Please move this back.




posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
I'm sorry to inform you that I do not partake in left/right political discussions, you can do that with someone on the same level of intelligence as you.

Ad hominem attack, sheesh...

Anyway, you seem to be not that smart. So I agree that other poster should not respond to the filth you spew. As for me, I will be responding to every ignorant post you have made after mine. You want to play, here I am son.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Just more divide and conquer crap.

Teacher is a pathetic excuse for one. And the kid who used the N word along with the kids who beat on him, ARE ALL WRONG and need a good scolding.

But hey, lets keep focusing on the things that make us all different, cause god forbid we lowly peasants actually work together and see who the real enemy is.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by leejohnbarnes
 



Assuming it is just one person who thinks like this is idiotic.


Assuming that everyone thinks like this is even more idiotic.

Nuh uh you're stupid!

Nuh uh, you are!

Nuh uh--Yah huh!--Nuh uh...

Seriously? Do you have nothing other than a bag of insults to use in a discussion? I can't blame the other poster, after watching you dissassemble all relevant discussion...well it is like talking to a 5 year old. And now look!! We have a baby fight, complete with nuh-uhs and yah huhs...

Yeah let me listen right to you, you are obviously mature and think before typing!
/sarcasm

(That is forum type for, you are full of @&*# when it comes to debate.)


Originally posted by Zamini

How do you know she was not told to do this on some liberal left PC diversity course - you dsont do you.


Oh I see, so because we don't know that it is better to assume that she was.

See here you have a gem of intelligence, if only the rest of your posts could be so enlightened. Though I didn't see the quoted member say that they assumed she did. Though you sure assumed that they did, didn't you. Which one is the racist? The person who attacks any opinion that is different than theirs? Oh wait, no, that is a bigot!

So you are being a bigot, not a racist. Same as me though, so don't feel bad!


Originally posted by Zamini

I respect soldiers and the military, does that make me a fascist or you a liberal idiot if you despise people who are prepared to die for their country and freedom ?


That makes you an idiot, but the reason I asked was whether to see if I read you as a person correctly. I did.

Again, if the person doesn't agree with you they are "less than you". That is how a bigot acts, you bigot. Again, not an insult, a documented observation.



Originally posted by Zamini

I suspect the latter.


Don't open your mouth and run it, I have people in my family who have actually fought and given their lives against a US-supported invasion of Iran by Iraq. You like to pretend you all fight for freedom and that you are all tough soldiers, but has your nation been forced to teach students in elementary and high schools how to operate a weapon because an invasion and death was that imminent? How about trying to sleep through bombs being dropped around them? Have you pulled the corpses of two of your REAL brothers(none of that military brainwash bull#) from the rubble of your missile stricken shop? People that are close to me have, and I respect them a HELL OF A LOT more than some ignorant mercenary pretending he's tough shooting folks from helicopters, planes and whatnot - then to come back with PTSD and beating his wife, pissing his pants at night having nightmares of "insurgents". Grow up.


Well well well! That got you to respond, when he treated you like you were treating him. GOOD! That means you will try to play with me, I can hardly wait! Anyway, on to the meats...

"Don't open your mouth, and run it"
Yeah, he better not. That is your job!

"I have people in my family who have actually fought and given their lives against a US-supported invasion of Iran by Iraq."
Yeah? I have some Black friends, I mean they aren't all bad. (Bigot!)

" You like to pretend you all fight for freedom and that you are all tough soldiers, but has your nation been forced to teach students in elementary and high schools how to operate a weapon because an invasion and death was that imminent?"
Remember, only I AM ALLOWED to open my mouth and run it. Only I AM ALLOWED to assume things without evidence.

(I = You)

I think that is enough, we can now see how bigoted you are. Not that we could not before, but honest typings from you have shown us the path. With a little help from my running mouth (really it is my fingers).


Originally posted by Zamini

Sometimes Godwins rule just has to be put aside when the facts demand it.


But most of the time it demonstrates ignorance.

Like when people use it everytime someone mentions Hitler, or Nazi's even when it IS in the context of the thread. Like when YOU use it...


Originally posted by Zamini

No, just stating the facts.


No you are not. You are using sensationalist arguments that most likely convinced yourself.

Which is something only YOU are allowed to do in this thread, or do you have sources for the drivvel you have posted?


Originally posted by Zamini

I thought you hated America - oh yeah, thats right - you just hate WHITE AMERICANS dont you.


I don't hate America, I don't hate white Americans. Stop putting words in my mouth. I've been to the US, it's a beautiful country and some Americans I met were some of the friendliest people around, a tad simple, but friendly non the less. Am I going to let you disturb their image because you happen to be American? # no!

Ever hear the saying "Actions speak louder than words?"

Well your actions are calling these words a liar, and so am I.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by elcapitano75
Just more divide and conquer crap.

Teacher is a pathetic excuse for one. And the kid who used the N word along with the kids who beat on him, ARE ALL WRONG and need a good scolding.

But hey, lets keep focusing on the things that make us all different, cause god forbid we lowly peasants actually work together and see who the real enemy is.


A mob beat a child and they need a scolding !

Come on.

This is a hate crime, not them forgetting to do their homework .



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
Don't get me wrong, the Caucasians being blamed for racism are the result of their ancestors behavior and ignorance.

That's for true!


Originally posted by Zamini
You can't help it...

But people like you can, if you would stop being racist towards us. You know, treat us the same way you expect us whites to treat you? Oh, wait, that wouldn't be fun! You guys wouldn't be "better than" us whites then. Or, even worse, us whites might think we are equal to you guys!!111!11one!!1


Originally posted by Zamini
, you are going to be pushed in that same corner until the people reach a point of understanding.

And I will teach people how to treat me. If that means beating thier bigoted behavior into a dark corner, that is exactly what I will do. It is THEIR fault they are racists, not mine. How dare you suggest that it is, that is abusive/racist/bigoted behavior. After all, she was asking for it, right?


Originally posted by Zamini
And only then will all this non-sense bickering about skin color end.

You are the one pointing out the colors, well your "type". I am in here trying to be equal, but all you want to do is point out "culture" and "difference". Just like my bigot friends, don't think all "gays" are bad.


Originally posted by Zamini
Whether your children will develop racist tendencies is up to how you raise your children - you can control this. But who is to say other people won't intentionally raise their children to hold racist ideas?

Children are the worst, to me. I have little Blacks calling me cracker, honkey, and words I can not type in here. Hell, even comedians "Honkey" "Cracker" But if a white comedian says "Nigger", well then we are in trouble. Watch this post, watch to see if "Honkey" and "Cracker" get to stay, while "Nigger" is snipped.

Then tell me about racisim.


Originally posted by Zamini
There is no certainty about this outside of your own circle, get it?

Only your circle has the certains! Only your circle can assume! Only your circle can be racist.


Originally posted by Zamini
That's what I'm trying to tell you. It is a perpetual problem that is dividing the group of people that used to fight side by side for freedom. I understand what you are saying, it is wrong to be held accountable for what happened 150 years ago - but you're not going to escape it - because that would equal to attempting to outrun ignorance and I don't see that happening any time soon.

I see what you are saying, it is wrong but it is not.

That is what you said.

"It is wrong, but"--it is not wrong. That is what that "but" means, it means freedom to bigot!

Now I need a cig, I will continue soon!



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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A big problem with this world and what even POWERFUL elite are trying to find a way to conquer is karma and cycles.

We can't get away from it. Many people commit crimes or wrong doings against others and don't realize or want to accept that they will pay one day. Now when I say they will pay one day, maybe not them, but rather their descendents possibly.

I wonder if our Founding Fathers would have treated slaves the way they did if they considered their descendants would be the ones getting beat up in schools? Do any of you take into account that your actions may fall on your children?

I don't really lean on black slavery as much as some others because I know REAL history. I know that we Afrikans are being paid back for what WE did to the pale people from the Caucass mountains in a history that has been successfully hidden and erased.

In the same breath white people are being punished for what they did to blacks during American slavery.

Every perpetrator of violence...wants his/her victim to just forgive and forget. That's easier said than done and isn't how this plane of existance works right now. Every race is paying some other race back. Then that race is going to pay the other race back. It's a cycle that continues...

In this situation the teacher is dead wrong for sharing what that student said. She will be punished as the system see fit.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
So how does it feel to be white these days?

Did you guys honestly believe history wouldn't rear it's ugly head?

That you could mistreat and enslave an entire people because of their skin color without EVER facing repercussions?



Umm, must have been out for that, don't remember personally doing any of that so you can stick the rhetoric back in the little pouch you retrieved it from.

Man this sort of logic boils me.... really...




posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
A big problem with this world and what even POWERFUL elite are trying to find a way to conquer is karma and cycles.

We can't get away from it. Many people commit crimes or wrong doings against others and don't realize or want to accept that they will pay one day. Now when I say they will pay one day, maybe not them, but rather their descendents possibly.

I wonder if our Founding Fathers would have treated slaves the way they did if they considered their descendants would be the ones getting beat up in schools? Do any of you take into account that your actions may fall on your children?

I don't really lean on black slavery as much as some others because I know REAL history. I know that we Afrikans are being paid back for what WE did to the pale people from the Caucass mountains in a history that has been successfully hidden and erased.

In the same breath white people are being punished for what they did to blacks during American slavery.

Every perpetrator of violence...wants his/her victim to just forgive and forget. That's easier said than done and isn't how this plane of existance works right now. Every race is paying some other race back. Then that race is going to pay the other race back. It's a cycle that continues...

In this situation the teacher is dead wrong for sharing what that student said. She will be punished as the system see fit.


Interesting post.

What is this story about the people from the Caucass mountains as I havent heard of that.

Thanks.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
Just stop it before you embarrass yourself further. I don't live in Britain either. Nobody freed the Kurds from Saddam Hussein you twat. The Kurds people were used as a political tool shown to you on TV telling you how evil Saddam was - never mentioning who gave him the resources to commit his evil crimes. You never cared about any Kurds, just like you don't care about Afghans or Iraqis, you do not want to free them. Go educate yourself. FYI - this will be the last reply to you ever. You aptly demonstrated the level of intelligence you possess and honestly - I can't be bothered with a dumb person like yourself.

(emphasis added)

Should I even respond? Readers, is it not obvious that this poster is a bigot? Is it not obvious that all they want to do is attack?

In fact, I would reason they have the same mindset as the teacher that is the topic of this thread. Act before thinking.

All well, I am off to the next post. I haev to be sure no one is listening to his position, it is based in ignorance. Remember my position, equality all around. Or rather, finding other lables to use in our hatered of each other.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Meh, look, you can be pissed off and angry and hate random strangers because of your past, or you can let it go and move on.

Wanna know what happens when the former continues? This thread.

We'll never know what happens when the latter happens, because there are too many people like you feeding the problem with small snippets of white guilt that do NOTHING to ease conflict between people, but ensure that wedge remains a constant reminder that whitey is bad and must pay - "How does it feel to be white?" statements like that give people reason for beatings like this...

Pathetic.




posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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I live in one of the most racially charged cities in the U.S. This town is infested with hate, it breeds here. Everything from the middle school kids to those about to retire, the anger and segregation in this city is palpable. You can taste it.

I deal with racism every day, if it's not the people I work with, it's the people in my trade, if its not them, its on the streets. It's in the kids, parents, politicians, teachers, health care providers, insurance companies and especially city employees, mostly in Education and police forces.

"Ever since 1968 this town hasn't been the same" as quoted to me by a member of the National Guard during this time. The race card here is the only card that gets played that gets things done. Doesn't matter what the topic is as soon as the race card gets dropped there is nothing to be done, you have been effectively "Trumped".

What people call "reverse racism" I put up with every single day. It takes fortitude and stamina to not be a racist here. If you are white; this city is against you. If you are black; this city is at your beckon and call. It really is a notion of "black & white" and that my friends...is beyond sad. I hear the "N-word" all the time, used by both colors, it's a double standard, much as with a womens double standard when it comes to sex.

There have been times...hard times, when I wanted to give in, be a racist too, to yell and cuss those who have flagrantly been racist to me. Those times are a test to your civility, "the measure of a man" if you will. A defining moment in the path that you are to walk.

Why is that people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have any credibility in this country? They are two of the most racist, hate mongering individuals on the planet. There mission is to spew forth vile words and information, doing nothing but expanding the rift between blacks and whites. They get "ordained" so they can put "Reverend" before their name giving a sense of validity to there misguided followers and that they "speak not of falsities".

Racism is very strong where I'm from and until the people start seeing that it is a means to divide a nation, control the populace, and breed individuals that will not revolt against the government. I am afraid that the tides of hatred will forever pulse in the veins of our once great city.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
How about you re-read my post and try to discern what my point is.

Youre point is to show that you are right, and whites are wrong. Even if you are white, which I do not know. Your "agenda" is painfully obvious at this point.


Originally posted by Zamini

My family did not come to the US until the early 1900s. We didn't own slaves or participate in the slave trade. I don't have a guilty conscience for the sins committed by whites from different centuries.


I don't care. Good for you.

Of course you don't care that he didn't have slaves. Sure won't stop you from treating him like he did, will it. (Not a question, since we ALL know the answer.)


Originally posted by Zamini

It's time to end all this racism.


Oh, I didn't know you were God and had the power to do this. I do know that you are delusional if you think that this issue will just blow over and people will simply forget.

How can we forget, when we have people like you saying how much worse the whites are than the others. When we have others screaming to be different than whites. There are two sides to racisim, the good kind and the bad kind.

When you guys stop using the good kind, it will make it easier for the others to stop the bad kind. (Affermative action, racism. Setting up special things for minorities, racism.) But because it benifits instead of harms, it is the "good kind".

Racism is racism, drop the good kind and the bad will follow.

Of course, you will say that the bad has to stop first. Since we all know change starts with others, and not oneself.



Originally posted by Zamini

The students that assaulted the other student should be expelled. The teacher who set up the attack should lose her job. She is not fit to be a teacher. It doesn't matter what color the skin of the individuals is. What matters is ... there was an assault. The teacher created a situation where the assault took place


Yes and this is very, very disturbing to say the least. School is supposed to be a place of education.

Well at least you agree that the minority majority should be punished. That is a bit of a relief, though do you think the white kid was "asking for it"? You know, like how rape victems ask for it by wearing revealing clothing.



Originally posted by Zamini
No but you should be giving it out of free will to the people who are troubled by the past. But since you won't you will have to carry the burden that people of the past left you. And this is not my opinion this is what is happening, go ahead, disagree with it as much as you want you will NEVER escape it. Understand you can't understand then move on to progress.

I will escape it, by beating people down that think I can't. How dare you try to imprision me in your ignorance.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSimms
reply to post by leejohnbarnes
 


I live in one of the most racially charged cities in the U.S. This town is infested with hate, it breeds here. Everything from the middle school kids to those about to retire, the anger and segregation in this city is palpable. You can taste it.

I deal with racism every day, if it's not the people I work with, it's the people in my trade, if its not them, its on the streets. It's in the kids, parents, politicians, teachers, health care providers, insurance companies and especially city employees, mostly in Education and police forces.

"Ever since 1968 this town hasn't been the same" as quoted to me by a member of the National Guard during this time. The race card here is the only card that gets played that gets things done. Doesn't matter what the topic is as soon as the race card gets dropped there is nothing to be done, you have been effectively "Trumped".

What people call "reverse racism" I put up with every single day. It takes fortitude and stamina to not be a racist here. If you are white; this city is against you. If you are black; this city is at your beckon and call. It really is a notion of "black & white" and that my friends...is beyond sad. I hear the "N-word" all the time, used by both colors, it's a double standard, much as with a womens double standard when it comes to sex.

There have been times...hard times, when I wanted to give in, be a racist too, to yell and cuss those who have flagrantly been racist to me. Those times are a test to your civility, "the measure of a man" if you will. A defining moment in the path that you are to walk.

Why is that people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have any credibility in this country? They are two of the most racist, hate mongering individuals on the planet. There mission is to spew forth vile words and information, doing nothing but expanding the rift between blacks and whites. They get "ordained" so they can put "Reverend" before their name giving a sense of validity to there misguided followers and that they "speak not of falsities".

Racism is very strong where I'm from and until the people start seeing that it is a means to divide a nation, control the populace, and breed individuals that will not revolt against the government. I am afraid that the tides of hatred will forever pulse in the veins of our once great city.




Good post.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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This one is mediocre, I will leave it alone. I had to respond though, since I said I would.


Originally posted by Zamini
I'm not blaming them or trying to blame them, I am saying they are being blamed and there is nothing you can do about it. Heck, it might not have even been your ancestors even, or your ancestors could have helped fight the oppression - but you will be blamed because there is a huge lack of understanding. And this lack of understanding will try to correct itself. You see that last part? That is what you are supposed to get from my post. Nothing else.

Boy you have a small opinion of your fellow man.

"Nothing I can do about it." That is a pretty bold statement, how do you know? I do things about it every day, things to bring me closer to my fellows (not drive us apart, as you do.)

And the reason we have a lack of understanding? People like YOU!

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Yay, all caught up! Take your time in responding, I understand that it may take you some time to get those gears to full spin. Just be careful, any and all claims will be challenged because I think you are a racist/bigot. And, well, I don't listen to them as well because they are ignorant in thier thoughts.

PS: Don't call people fools, especially ones you do not know. They may turn out to be smarter, and faster at typing than you.

edit on 5/17/2011 by adigregorio because: To add mediocre...
edit on 5/17/2011 by adigregorio because: Obvious edit is obvious



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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What happens to the offspring of a black and white union?

Are you saying that these children would only be half as guilty, or a third? Less?

When it comes time for the posse to beat one of them down because, as you say, it's inevitable, do they get to choose parts of their body that can be punched or kicked?

Or will they magically be exempt from this inevitable wrath of ignorance you envision?

It's astonishing to read your posts, because you are either epic trolling or really the problem right at the core of this issue.

"Look how tolerant and clever I am! You white people are just racists. Accept it."



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by mblahnikluver
WHY was this moved to rant?!

Seriously ATS? WTH!

This is a social situation for god's sake and it isn't the first time something like this has happened.

I thought rant was to rant about something that is pissing you off? This is an actual story! The teacher should be fired.

Please move this back.

Actually, I think this thread should be locked and johnleebarnes should be banned for trolling:

I can pick out at least 4 spots on this thread where he is using british slang like "muppet", "mate", etc. but he is blathering on and on about america and american freedoms.

just some brit pretending to be a yank to stir the racial pot. Not only should he be banned, I wish internet cowards like this were tracked down.
edit on 17-5-2011 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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I am so glad I am not the only one who saw that!

And I apologize for going "balls to the wall" in responding to him. Had to make sure, ya know?

Have to keep the inevitable beat down of myself away!



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
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I do understand your point. However, I still don't feel guilty about the sins committed by people in the past.


You don't need to or have to. Who said you had to?



That is why I posed the question; "How does it feel to be white these days?"

Because if you don't know how it feels to be discriminated against you because of the color of your skin, you will NEVER understand how big that chip really is. And for you to turn and say; "well 'they' need to do this first" is akin to ordering people to forgive and forget...how is this possible without a mutual foundation of understanding?


You might need to clarify that then. If you had no intention for your post to come across exactly the way it did, what sort of answer would have been fitting to the question?

"Oh I feel great, thanks for asking?"

No, it was a loaded question, and you got exactly what you wanted. Congrats.

And now as you pull at the tethers of your agenda, trying to hide the loose threads and tidy up your stance, we get -



I can only be responsible for my actions. When you ask the question "How does if feel to be white today?" , I have to assume that was a racist comment. Does it feel any different today to people based on the color of their skin?


Suppose that whites are discriminated against because of their skin color as I understood the premise of the discussion in this thread. It then becomes a reflective question. One person got it. That person is not you.


Suppose? You need to peek out from behind that one sided reality you're living in and have a gander at the other side for a while...

And you have the gall to tell people to accept it and throw around half a dozen smileys and lol emotes to show just how confident you are in the stupidity of the people you are instructing.


FYI I did quote your post. What's wrong with you?


Ya, he knows that, try reading it again.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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thank you very much.





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