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reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 09:12 AM by Havick007
Originally posted by Now_Then
Originally posted by CobraCommander
they dont even know what it really going on in our local moons, hogwash.


I think it's something to do with spectral analysis, we can look at the star that the planet orbits, analyse that light and then look at the light that passes through the atmosphere of the planet.... We can't do that with the moons in our own solar system (well most of them any way) because we are always looking away from the sun,

That's my initial thought any way, I could be wrong.





I'm just gonna add to your statements and i do agree with your reply to the claim this is ''hogwash''

Why ''hogwash''




Without rambling on i will just post a larger snippet from the original
Science Daily article which goes into far greater detail on how the scientists reached this conclusion and how much work has actually gone into studying this planet and system. I also noticed the majority of news outlets got their quotes and stories from this original report;











In this quest, the red dwarf star Gliese 581 has already received a huge amount of attention. In 2007, scientists reported the detection of two planets orbiting not far from the inner and outer edge of its habitable zone. While the more distant planet, Gliese 581d, was initially judged to be too cold for life, the closer-in planet was thought to be potentially habitable by its discoverers. However.............

Full Article - ScienceDaily (May 16, 2011)






Today, it is finally Gliese 581g's big brother -- the larger and more distant Gliese 581d -- which has been shown to be the confirmed potentially habitable exoplanet by Robin Wordsworth, François Forget and co-workers from Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique (CNRS, UPMC, ENS Paris, Ecole Polytechnique) at the Institute Pierre Simon Laplace in Paris. Although it is likely to be a rocky planet, it has a mass at least seven times that of Earth, and is estimated to be about twice its size. At first glance, Gliese 581d is a pretty poor candidate in the hunt for life: it receives less than a third of the stellar energy Earth does and may be tidally locked, with a permanent day and night side. After its discovery, it was generally believed that any atmosphere thick enough to keep the planet warm would become cold enough on the night side to freeze out entirely, ruining any prospects for a habitable climate.





To test whether this intuition was correct, Wordsworth and colleagues developed a new kind of computer model capable of accurately simulating possible exoplanet climates. The model simulates a planet's atmosphere and surface in three dimensions, rather like those used to study climate change on Earth. However, it is based on more fundamental physical principles, allowing the simulation of a much wider range of conditions than would otherwise be possible, including any atmospheric cocktail of gases, clouds and aerosols.

To their surprise, they found that with a dense carbon dioxide atmosphere -- a likely scenario on such a large planet -- the climate of Gliese 581d is not only stable against collapse, but warm enough to have oceans, clouds and rainfall. One of the key factors in their results was Rayleigh scattering, the phenomenon that makes the sky blue on Earth. In the Solar System, Rayleigh scattering limits the amount of sunlight a thick atmosphere can absorb, because a large portion of the scattered blue light is immediately reflected back to space. However, as the starlight from Gliese 581 is red, it is almost unaffected. This means that it can penetrate much deeper into the atmosphere, where it heats the planet effectively due to the greenhouse effect of the CO2 atmosphere, combined with that of the carbon dioxide ice clouds predicted to form at high altitudes. Furthermore, the 3D circulation simulations showed that the daylight heating was efficiently redistributed across the planet by the atmosphere, preventing atmospheric collapse on the night side or at the poles.








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reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 09:39 AM by network dude
reply to post by Havick007



I declare myself the official Carbon Czar of Gliese 581d. Any future enterprises wishing to colonize Gliese 581d, will have to pay carbon credits to my office.

I thought I would get in on the action before Al does.



reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 09:54 AM by MikeboydUS
Originally posted by network dude
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post by Havick007



I declare myself the official Carbon Czar of Gliese 581d. Any future enterprises wishing to colonize Gliese 581d, will have to pay carbon credits to my office.

I thought I would get in on the action before Al does.


I heard this guy already had first dibs on the system.




reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 10:17 AM by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by Havick007



This is amazing, although not surprising. It was bound to happen eventually. Now all we need to do is develop warp drive and we can send all of the Liberals there.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 10:51 AM by network dude
reply to post by MikeboydUS



damn. is that ALgore's cousin?

they have the same chins.

Oh well, maybe next planet.
edit on 17-5-2011 by network dude because: added thought



reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 12:50 PM by john1287
reply to post by Havick007

I think this is good news.
Where can I sign up.
I am packed up and ready.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 02:19 PM by klain
reply to post by Havick007



According to the science daily article the exo-planet could only support life similar to earth:

"Gliese 581d, can be considered the first confirmed exoplanet that could support Earth-like life"

Which I guess is to be expected depending on the habitable zone distance, composition and mass of the planet, weather system and asmosphere etc.

If the diagram mentioned above shows hot and cold regions I guess that means any future colonisation would be in the northern hemoshere.

Ah talk of colonisation reminds me of the empire (I'm British lol).
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