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School safety 'assassination' drill sends students running for their lives

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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:11 AM

School safety 'assassination' drill sends students running for their lives


CHICAGO (WLS) - The sound of gunshots split the air last Friday at a Rockford-area high school sending students seeking shelter anywhere they could, including off-campus, to save their lives.

What the students didn't know, was the shots they heard came from a capgun discharged by a disguised sheriff's deputy in an elaborate school safety drill.

Orangeville Jr-Sr High School student Skylar Walters told NBC 13 WREX he was in gym class when he heard the shots and a man calling a fellow students name.

"Kids were just running everywhere and crying and hiding, ran off school grounds,
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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:11 AM
A drill involving a cap gun fired without anyone except those who engineered knowing about it to me, went a little too far. Should any of the kids that day actually had a gun on them and returned fire, would we hail them as hero or a zero? I think it would be a hero but I'm sure these ignorant souls who planned this so called drill would think otherwise. I know if this happened at my son's school I would have to be escorted off the property by the time I was done telling them how I think about this. I cannot believe that someone with a badge went along with this stupid "drill" performed live and didn't tell anyone.

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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:15 AM
Yeah thats pretty messed up, though If the school only tried this to see what would happen and if they could control and lead to safety then....its still messed up I would run off campus as well.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:16 AM
reply to post by oddfuture

Kinda like the NWO seeing how the guinea pigs will react.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:24 AM
Very dangerous IMO
People are killed every year when other people panic and trample them to death.
You can not predict all the outcomes of people overcome with fear.
edit on 17-5-2011 by byteshertz because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:27 AM
reply to post by byteshertz

I know. And these kids, someone's son or daughter. They didn't care about that. They just wanted to "see them" run scared.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:36 AM
Kinda makes me wish someone had returned fire.....

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:48 AM
As the OP said...what if someone played hero? We could have a dead policeman and a student in prison by now.....yeah some drill

What if someone had been weak of heart and the fright had actually caused issues?

What if someone had been hurt trying to run from the gunshots?

What if somebody had actually thought about what they were doing and realised this was a stupid idea, and simply talked to the students or let them all know about the drill beforehand? Well, maybe it would have gone alot better...

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:49 AM
Some of the kids are going to suffer from PTSD, if not nightmares. What's the plan, do this so much that kids become so used to it, they won't care? Experimenting on "herd mentality"? Why is this better than a drills, such a hurricane drill? I see it as more damaging, as they did not know and it can cause more problems than preparing for safety. Not a good way to try to prepare anyone.

edit on 17-5-2011 by dreamingawake because: correction

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 01:56 AM
I work for a police department. I understand the need to run drills. However, this was idiotic by any measure. You don't release anthrax to run a drill. You shouldn't "simulate" a school shooting with a cap gun. There should have been some advanced warning so that students would have been better able to cope with the possible emotional side effects.

If my kid was in that school I might loose my job for my actions following this incident.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 02:06 AM
reply to post by dreamingawake

Well "PTSD" is just more psycho-babble. But this gives you an insight into what the mechanism of stress really is: This was a non-event that a bunch of people thought was real.

And that's the key to terrorizing a population. Lie to them, scare them, fill their lives with images of death and destruction. And a certain percent will behave like it is real.

The guy, the school superintendent, said it was his idea. So you can get an idea where he's coming from or who is leaning on him to do things with the kids that are very ill-advised.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:18 AM
reply to post by l_e_cox

PTSD is not just some psychebabble.... Maybe you never known anyone that has had it.

And when you experience something you think is real, it is real as you are experiencing it. Finding out is was fake don't erase what an experience has done to you.

This was stupid at best, criminally negligent probably. Like some have pointed out, that cop is lucky a bunch of people didn't play the hero. He could have been mobbed and stabbed to death with pencils or something, yeah, really smart... What if someone driving by thought it was real and ran his ass down with a car, or pulled and opened fire? Does that school start a fire in the library for firedrills too?
edit on Tue, 17 May 2011 06:18:39 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:36 AM
This was not a "drill" this was a psy-op.

A drill in a school sense needs to involve the prior knowledge of those in charge of classes that it will take place. in order so they can guide their classes through execution of an evacuation procedure. Not only that, but people attending need to be informed of the process to execute on a given signal, stimuli and or command. as in a fire drill, or military drill. The whole point being is to practice (drill) the procedure.

Without either of the above this cannot be called a drill. It was designed to, and succeeded it seems in generating fear and panic, which if any person had been injured in the resulting stampede the school is wide open to litigation. Although failing that, I am sure that it will not stop the tidal wave of litigation for mental injury and anguish.

Completely irresponsible, poorly thought out, and only designed for one thing obviously. Instillation of fear.
edit on 17/5/2011 by JakiusFogg because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:40 AM
when i was younger, I went to bible summer school (forced thing) in the Finger Lakes region. Everyday there was a different special day. For example, christmas, easter, etc.. The friday was April Fools day, but they did not tell us the special day until morning. Thursday night, around 1am in the morning, the counslers came to wake everyone up. We were all pretty slow getting to the main building. All the kids were rounded up and told to be qiuet. The leader comes onto the stage and says they have found a boat not belonging to the camp on the island (we were on a island) and that the local police were looking for escape convict. For those that know, this was at the time of the OKA crisis in Canada, just on the other side of the border. After a couple minutes, the lights go dark, and out of the four corners of the building, masked men came in shooting rounds up in the roof. Kids went nuts. kids fainted, kids screamed and cried, all access points were blocked by masked gunmen.
I think they quickly realized their error in scaring 5-14 years olds. Lights came back on, APRIL FOOLS. It was a mini riot after that. Imagine upset kids, roaming the island, destroying little things, totally ignoring all ADULTS on the island. I knew it was a hoax, but most of the kids around did not. I took advantage of being one of the older ones, and rounded up the younger kids and hung out with them during the night, eventually putting them back to bed.

Leader of the island lost his job, and i have to say this experience was what made me turn away from oganized religion. I kept my spirituality though

I thought my story was similar so I thought i would share it.

Adults are stupid sometimes. no, most of the time. Im a Toys R us kid, and will remain until my time is up on this blue globe.

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:43 AM
I'm really surprised by your thoughts ATS.

I think its a great drill, it goes to show that the kids were obviously not prepared for an event like that. Instead of keeping cool, they all freaked out. Meaning if a gunman would attack the school, everyone would freak out and all hell would break loose.

I think its much better to have a believable drill than some BS "derp do, code X, everyone lock the doors and talk to your friends for 15 minutes."

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:55 AM
reply to post by doom27

Unless some of those JR high kids were CC permit holders and packing, which I seriously doubt is the case, then they did the only thing they could do if it was real. Run for their lives and try to find cover.... You really think that lock the doors and hide under your desk praying is going to be very effective? Not unless the doors and walls are bulletproof, everyone and their mother know what they are told to do when they do drill for it. A gunman will know everyone is hiding under desks locked in the classroom.
edit on Tue, 17 May 2011 07:55:51 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:27 PM
reply to post by TKDRL

My point. I was in high school 4 or 5 years ago, thats what they do. They come on a loud speaker and says its a code (insert code here), Teachers lock the door and cut the lights off. Kids get under desks.

A gunman would have a hay day.

Break glass, Unlock Door, Get in, Assassinate every kid, walk to the next room, repeat.

Kids should learn they need to escape, or actually hide, not some BS lets lock the door and hide under our desks.

posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 10:35 AM
I live only a few miles from this school

a couple points

the WLS article was a bit sanitized

the pistol was a 22 caliber blank gun -- very loud and does not look like a toy cap gun as the op article would lead you to believe

It concerns me that no father had the cohones to slap the st out of the superintendant that dreamed up this nightmare -- just as a drill, you understand, to see how he would react

Also, is it not a felony in IL to threaten someone with murder using a pistol (yes it is) and it does not have to be a 'real' firearm. Some people need to be arrested and sent to the cross-bar hotel for this

posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 10:39 AM
Its Chicago... you expect any less? Im in Illinois.. nowhere town illinois.. and the whole state is insane. Its just a matter of more conditioning to accept the actions of "authority". Kind of like out illegal "motorist safety checks", occupancy permits, FOID cards, and etc....

DO NOT question authority, run when youre told to run, and show me your papers.
edit on 15-6-2011 by Advantage because: (no reason given)

posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 10:43 AM
Reminds me of the safety drill at the Nuclear Power Plant on the Simpsons

Burns: "whats a good time for a full plant evacuation?"
Smithers: "forty seconds"
Burns: "and what are we at now?"
Smithers: "I dont know, sir. this stopwatch only goes for 15 minutes"

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