Two Pakistani soldiers wounded by NATO strike... Pakistan mobilizes army

The beginning of something bigger?

Nato incursion in North Waziristan; two troops injured

A Nato helicopter incursion in the Datta Khel Tehsil of North Waziristan wounded two troops on Tuesday, local intelligence officials said, further ratcheting up tensions between Islamabad and the West.

“It happened early morning,” a Pakistani intelligence official in the region, who declined to be identified, told Reuters.

“The helicopter hit a Pakistani check post on the border in the Datta Khel area.”

And the first report reported that Pakistani troops fired on the helicopter...

Anyway NATO wounding two pakistani troops sure won't help things one bit.

Update : "The helicopter hit a Pakistani check post on the border in the Datta Khel area."
What the hell are they doing hitting a check post?

Another intelligence official said several Pakistani helicopters took off from Miranshah, the main town in North Waziristan, toward the site of the attack. The purpose of the Pakistani mobilization was unclear.

And Pakistan has mobilized the army... yeah this will end well. And UNCLEAR? Are you kidding?

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What's NATO doing in Pakistan??

Originally posted by backinblack
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What's NATO doing in Pakistan??

Spreading freedom and democracy of course!

NATO strike?
Unless engaged in a sanctioned offensive, NATO troops can only fire with approval in self defence situations, unless their rules of engagement have changed.

Originally posted by lestweforget

NATO strike?
Unless engaged in a sanctioned offensive,

Which it is. Maybe you haven't read the news for the last 3 years, but the US has been bombing Pakistan for quite some time.

Originally posted by Vitchilo

Originally posted by lestweforget

NATO strike?
Unless engaged in a sanctioned offensive,

Which it is. Maybe you haven't read the news for the last 3 years, but the US has been bombing Pakistan for quite some time.

The US yes but NATO ??
That's a whole different ball game..

Originally posted by backinblack
The US yes but NATO ??
That's a whole different ball game..

The US IS Nato.

I doubt it was a British or Canadian helicopter. Canadians only have the control of Kabul. The eastern part of Afghanistan is under US control.

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Stupid mistake!

Originally posted by lestweforget
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Last time i heard NATO was a peace keeping force. The US is anything but!

Aren't you mixing NATO and UN forces? Because NATO sure as hell ain't a peacekeeping force. Blue helmets are a little more a peacekeeping force... when they are not raping people.

I recently made a thread on Stephen Harper, and while researching on him I found an article by James P Tucker jr, and he said;

But Kyoto was pushed by Bilderberg for the same reasons it wants a direct UN tax, favors NAFTA and the WTO and turned NATO into the UN's standing army, among other actions: it is a step on the road to creating world government.

That's from 2006. The idea of seeing NATO becoming a waring, aggressive tool was already in motion... by the Bilderbergers...

Seems like a full pot of coffee 2night.stories are still coming in this maybe,just maybe a flash point.what im trying to figure out is the reason behind the attack who shot first or better yet why.IMHO it was because of the stealth helo Pakistan has and China wants to but it

Pakistan is probably on high alert since this whole OBL thing. They did say that they would retaliate if the US threatens their sovereignty again in such a matter. This was in a previous ATS thread. And then shortly afterwards the US sent 2 drones to attack another something in Pakistan...

Basically, I think Pakistan is very twitchy right now… The slightest mistake or trigger happy misconception can cause a huge problem! And if Pakistan goes to war with NATO, it goes to war with the world.

NATO is involved in Afghanistan (www.nato.int...)

I believe the line between US operations and NATO operations are pretty blurred. That said the British, French, Polish etc troops in Afghanistan are all under NATO control. The US troops, as far as I know, are all under US command.

So if it was a NATO chopper then it probably wasn't a US one.. Interesting to see NATO extending their role to operations outside Afghanistan. One possible explanation could be a "search and rescue" mission, because that would be a scenario where NATO can operate outside the rules of engagement. (Their chopper happened to be the closest available for a urgent pickup?)

Interesting. Pakistan is definitely being set up for something. This story not only comes on the heels of the questions about the whole OBL fiasco but also, on NPR's All Things Considered today there was a story about the ISI's ties to the Mumbai attacks and how somebody involved was intending to testify to that fact:

Headley is a big reason the case is getting so much attention. To avoid the death penalty, he has agreed to testify against Rana. In pretrial releases it is clear he's going to say that the Pakistani spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, played a huge role in the Mumbai attacks. India has been saying as much for some time. This case threatens to provide more evidence of that. Headley has already said publicly that he had an ISI handler and spent the agency's money to help terrorists plot the Mumbai attacks. When he testifies in open court, he's expected to name names and dates and details of phone calls.

When prosecutors were putting together the case over the past year, those revelations appeared embarrassing for Pakistan, but not incendiary. Now, coming just weeks after Pakistan has had to explain how it didn't know bin Laden was hiding on its soil for five years, this case has taken on outsized proportions.

www.npr.org...

Interesting how this story didn't come up any earlier and seems tied to the current timing of things. That's just what we need-more reasons for India to hate Pakistan.

This is a casualty of war unfortunately. Friendlies at time are targeted and Islamabad must understand this, next time they should pay more attention to the communicades from NATO about potential troop locations and to synchronize and coordinate where each other's troop convoy's are so that something like this never happens again..

India has got to be loving this. I think the Us is really trying hard to wind up Pakistan. Droping the live bait in front of them. Come on fishy.

Just to clarify...

It was NATO.

From the BBC...

www.bbc.co.uk...

A Nato helicopter has injured two soldiers in the Pakistani region of North Waziristan, local officials say.

It hit a Pakistani checkpoint on the Afghan border in the Datta Khel area, Reuters news agency reports. A spokesman for Western forces in Afghanistan said it would investigate

Peace (err.. i hope)

Pakistan is in a lose/lose situation.

They can't get draw into a confrontation with US/NATO but at the same time the internal political outlook is fragile at the best. Internally they can't be seen as weak against the West.

Originally posted by joe12
Pakistan is in a lose/lose situation.

They can't get draw into a confrontation with US/NATO but at the same time the internal political outlook is fragile at the best. Internally they can't be seen as weak against the West.

That is when the military will take over again!

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Watching Pakistan is like watching the Keystone Cops on '___'; there are so many different factions of military, government and religious groups that nobody really knows what in hell is going on there, least of all the pakistani president or the prime minister.

Case in point, the same pakistani intelligence agency tasked with helping id AQ targets in Pakistan, is thought to have been behind the Mumbai, India attack, and has been helping AQ in Afghanistan while rolling over on AQ in Pakistan.

Pakistan is so fragmented that the command structure over that border post is just as likely to have ordered their troops to fire on NATO helos as not. Or NATO could have attacked the wrong target, for that matter.

Whatever happened sounds like a real cluster-bleep.