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I want to use the electoral system to try to force change through and I think the biggest hindrance to that is we have no free press for real candidates to spread their message and organize the people.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by jude11
You pose a great question. I personally think the breaking point will be when the first state succeeds, or attempts to succeed from the union. It's not a matter of if, but when. In my opinion it will more than likely be one of the following states... North/South Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, or Arizona. Hell, I'll even throw Alaska in there for good measure. I think that all it will take is the first one, and then we will see the domino effect when others follow suit. And for the record, I can't wait for this to happen because in my opinion it is the only way things will eventually get fixed. The Republic is dead. The Constitution is dead. Our problems can not and will not be fixed by the political process.
Originally posted by morder1
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
Great point... What exactly would need to be done to have a state secede? I know my home state Pennsylvania... We are one of the few "Commonwealth's" which means we are able to take care of our own state... We are also known as the "Keystone State" Key- Stone as in, we hold it all together... Just curious is all...
Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
How long do you think a secession would last when the federal government stops payment of benefits to the now non-US citizens in the runaway state? Out entitlement society keeps many dependent on the federal level instead of the states. Not to mention tarrifs and blockades. To many states could not support themselves, or at least not keep the standard of living that the people in them are accustom to.
No, the system is designed to keep everyone dependent on the federal tit.
Pennsylvania's 2008 total gross state product (GSP) of $553.3 billion[57] ranks the state 6th in the nation. If Pennsylvania were an independent country, its economy would rank as the 18th largest in the world.
Originally posted by morder1
After posting my last post... decided to check out PA on Wikipedia... heres a pretty sweet tidbit of info about it...
Pennsylvania's 2008 total gross state product (GSP) of $553.3 billion[57] ranks the state 6th in the nation. If Pennsylvania were an independent country, its economy would rank as the 18th largest in the world.
Sounds to me that, we could manage on our own pretty easily...
Originally posted by morder1
After posting my last post... decided to check out PA on Wikipedia... heres a pretty sweet tidbit of info about it...
Pennsylvania's 2008 total gross state product (GSP) of $553.3 billion[57] ranks the state 6th in the nation. If Pennsylvania were an independent country, its economy would rank as the 18th largest in the world.
Sounds to me that, we could manage on our own pretty easily...