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Topic started on 15-5-2011 @ 11:37 PM by spacedonk

Stephen Hawking: 'There is no heaven; it's a fairy story'


www.guardian.co.uk
A belief that heaven or an afterlife awaits us is a "fairy story" for people afraid of death, Stephen Hawking has said.

In a dismissal that underlines his firm rejection of religious comforts, Britain's most eminent scientist said there was nothing beyond the moment when the brain flickers for the final time.

Hawking, who was diagnosed with motor neurone disease at the age of 21, shares his thoughts on death, human purpose and our chance existence in an exclusive interview with the Guardian today.

The incurable illness was expected to kill Hawking within a few years of its symptoms
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 11:48 PM by onequestion
reply to post by spacedonk



Actually depending on the drug it has no emotional affect on you. But this isn't about a drug. Brain chemistry does not create experience. It just attempts to explain it.

This is what you science folks don't get. Your science is a tool of understanding, its not the tool creating what it is you seek to understand.

If science is the end all be all, then what is science seeking to explain? I would imagine that it is self defeating. Especially considering that our science community is the "child" of philosophical thinking, so to speak.

You scientist really need an education. You don't even understand the context of the language your using to create these ideas. Historical linguistics should be a a pre-req to any degree offered by any college.


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 11:50 PM by MAC269
reply to post by spacedonk



Dear spacedonk

Like so many things until proven either way it is only his opinion. As cleaver as he may be.

As humans we just can not face the possible fact that death is the end. In fact it dose just seam so pointless if it is.

However who said that there is a point to all this.


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 11:55 PM by onequestion
reply to post by Epiphron



Your missing the whole point.

You are still there, watching the whole world change before you, even if it is chemistry, it still does not explain how you are still the person that remains before and after(during) the experience.

Round and round we go, where this stops nobody should know! This reminds me of willy wonka and the chocolate factory.


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 11:59 PM by Epiphron
reply to post by onequestion



What's there to explain? Why wouldn't you still be the same person? All the drug does is alter your perception. It has absolutely nothing to do with a spirit.


reply posted on 16-5-2011 @ 12:02 AM by Nobama
reply to post by spacedonk



I agree with what he said, but who exactly is he to say there is no afterlife? the same goes for me I can say I dont believe in a afterlife, but there's always a chance Im wrong.


reply posted on 16-5-2011 @ 12:09 AM by gemineye
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I don't even know what I believe in as far as heaven goes, but...

How the hell does Stephen Hawking know whether heaven exists or not? Last I checked, he hasn't died. How'd he find out?

He may be a smart guy, but when it comes to knowing whether heaven exists or not, he doesn't know any more than the rest of us.
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