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Is unconditional love possible?

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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Do you feel it for anyone? Do you love anyone (family, friends, your other half, your children, your fellow human) so much that even if they killed every human being on Earth, except for you, or if they tortured, raped and tried to kill you, you would still feel love for them somehow?

Or does everything, even love, have limits?




posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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I have a hard time with it. Maybe by someone else, but it seems i'm incapable of "unconditional" love right now.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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I have felt it for someone before, the feeling wasnt returned however and down hill I went....



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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"so much that even if they killed every human being on Earth," Is this your way of thinking? Then you'll never feel unconditional love, not one bit of it.
Remove the word "killed" and replace it with "love" and then ask yourself the question again!



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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My dog has unconditional love for me, i wish i could.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by biosphere
reply to post by descartes90
 

"so much that even if they killed every human being on Earth," Is this your way of thinking? Then you'll never feel unconditional love, not one bit of it.
Remove the word "killed" and replace it with "love" and then ask yourself the question again!



You don't get what I'm saying. I'm saying, if you truly love someone without conditions, even if they killed everyone on Earth or did horrible things to you, you would still feel love for them. Or else, it's love on the condition they don't do unspeakable things.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Yes, unconditional love is possible.
My Doggies show me it is true everyday, even though I may not be the best person and I am fallible.
However I do not believe the 2 legged animals on this planet are capable of this.
Well maybe just 1/1000th of a percent.
We do talk alot about it though.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Yes unconditional Love is possible.

If the person I loved was mentally unstable as you described. I would have them committed to a mental hospital so they could get help before they even could commit any of the acts you describe. And even that act would be done with love.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
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Yes, unconditional love is possible.
My Doggies show me it is true everyday, even though I may not be the best person and I am fallible.
However I do not believe the 2 legged animals on this planet are capable of this.
Well maybe just 1/1000th of a percent.
We do talk alot about it though.


Hmmmmm. Does the fact most of us desire it mean perhaps we are capable of it. I mean, most parents would still love their children probably if they killed everyone on Earth, including their siblings, and then raped and tortured them. And some spouses will love their partners even if they commit murder or abuse, some will unfortunately stay with them, others will have them get help/punishment but will continue to love them.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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I hope I don't sound like a freak or anything. I just have OCD, so I always worry about this kind of stuff, and it often involves thinking up horrible scenarios.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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The closest thing to absolute love I've seen in humans is the mother-child relationship. And even this seems to be a far from infallible connection. But the bond of a good mother to her children seems well-nigh unbreakable.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Im just going to assume you dont have kids. That way I can sleep easy tonight

If my kids started killing people or doing "bad things" to me, i'd give them a long over due, good old fashion a$$ whooping. Matter of fact, I wouldnt let them get that far "gone".



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by descartes90

Originally posted by biosphere
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"so much that even if they killed every human being on Earth," Is this your way of thinking? Then you'll never feel unconditional love, not one bit of it.
Remove the word "killed" and replace it with "love" and then ask yourself the question again!



You don't get what I'm saying. I'm saying, if you truly love someone without conditions, even if they killed everyone on Earth or did horrible things to you, you would still feel love for them. Or else, it's love on the condition they don't do unspeakable things.

Yea but when you go to love someone full force 100% then it becomes unconditional, even if they hurt you. However, people who go to extremes and breaks laws and hurts many with just one action i wouldn't consider loving this person at all. 2 different polarities of the complete opposites that just dont mix. How could you love at all seeing someone doing these things? Forgiveness..



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
The closest thing to absolute love I've seen in humans is the mother-child relationship. And even this seems to be a far from infallible connection. But the bond of a good mother to her children seems well-nigh unbreakable.





what would be something that would break it?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by showintail
Im just going to assume you dont have kids. That way I can sleep easy tonight

If my kids started killing people or doing "bad things" to me, i'd give them a long over due, good old fashion a$$ whooping. Matter of fact, I wouldnt let them get that far "gone".


would you still love them though or would you disown them?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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I have OCD too, and I've wondered about this also.

I suppose if you really love the other person then you will make them get help, because you'd want them to get better. If you didn't love them you'd just leave them.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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I see what you are saying but I don't think I would assign the term unconditional love.
I think stupidity would be closer for say beaten spouses and maybe survival of species or pride for the parent of a malcontent.
I know if my child was a mass murderer, I would do my best to send him back to the factory for repair,
(by the maker of course).



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by descartes90

Originally posted by showintail
Im just going to assume you dont have kids. That way I can sleep easy tonight

If my kids started killing people or doing "bad things" to me, i'd give them a long over due, good old fashion a$$ whooping. Matter of fact, I wouldnt let them get that far "gone".


would you still love them though or would you disown them?


Love. I would never disown my children. That would require I owned them in the first place. Which I dont. They are their own person, I am here to guide them and love them unconditionally .

May I ask, have you heard of the "acorn theory"? Very interesting topic. Basicly, no 2 are the same, just like children/people. And if you watch your kids, you can see them for "who they are" and have an idea of there temperment and kind of person they are going to be by 3 yrs of age.
Thats a shortened my version of it


Basicly, with this theory, I would think a parent would know what they are dealing with, and hopefully guide them accordingly so as to avoid a serial killer child.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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First you have to decide what love is.. some people call unconditional love for strangers charity..
then if you you truly love someone do you have the right to stop their freewill, to impose conditions upon them?
who knows for all we know we choose to be here and let one mad man destroy us all to overcome our own bad karma in one big swoop. after all are we not all from the same place, from the same creator.. can we really know why someone does what they do and then judge them in the name of god? thats not our place, so the only way to be free is to love them for what they are, there is no good or bad, there is just what we choose to see
i cant explain it anymore, you have to see past the veil to know .
peace.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Do you feel it for anyone? Do you love anyone (family, friends, your other half, your children, your fellow human) so much that even if they killed every human being on Earth, except for you, or if they tortured, raped and tried to kill you, you would still feel love for them somehow?


Unconditional love is not something which can be offered and then withdrawn as if it is a personal possession. True love is not ours to give or take, it simply flows unimpeded when the ego-self steps aside.

Love is the eternal well-spring whose source can be found within, and it is only the needs and wants of the small self which block its path. So it is not really the self which loves, but the spirit within which strives to shower love on all.

To answer your specific question, yes, I think it is possible to love another in this way, but know that your commitment to remain open to this love will be sorely tested.



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