The illuminati and child sacrifice within the vatican

Originally posted by King Seesar
Well elements of the CIA were involved in MK-Ultra, i think the movie the Good Shepherd shows a good idea of what the CIA is about and the corruption that insues there, but i agree with you in that certin CIA agents are brain washed into thinking what there doing is nobel that and in some cases they will recruit someone who is willing to sacrifice there morals for the good of the agency, more then likely both scenarios occure.

Not surprised to see this coming from you....

Gotta love ya, King Seesar!!!!

reply to post by CIAGypsy


Thank you and much love back

I'm just stating the obvious, of course i'm not gonna sit here and say the CIA hasen't done some good things in the past with anything there's a quantum physics of counter balance, but i feel the harm out ways the good besides the CIA has had its day and much like the KGB should become extinct, i feel the best mesure of doing such is simple, tear down the CIA and build something less sinister in its place, it's been documented the CIA has done horrendous things these are plain and simple facts that can't be ignored.



Besides your just a government shill working for the bad guys i'm kidding but since you get accused of that all the time i couldn't help it, i don't think you are, your just a skeptic which is fine, at least your more open then some or you wouldn't even be here.

Originally posted by King Seesar
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

Besides your just a government shill working for the bad guys

i'm kidding but since you get accused of that all the time i couldn't help it, i don't think you are, your just a skeptic which is fine, at least your more open then some or you wouldn't even be here.

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If I had a dollar for every time I'm accused on ATS of being Illuminati or a govt plant, I'd own the Federal Reserve outright!

reply to post by CIAGypsy


I gave you a star in the wish that you would own the Fed heck we might not agree on every topic but i'd trust you running the Federal Reserve then the people running it, i know you would do a better job with it then the whack jobs running it now and the mess it's caused America.


I read a thread awhile ago called 1913 the year when the world went mad, i couldn't created a better name for a thread myself.

Originally posted by King Seesar

I read a thread awhile ago called 1913 the year when the world went mad, i couldn't created a better name for a thread myself.

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Honestly, I can't understand this mentality King Seesar....

The world was much more violent and "mad" during the Dark Ages or even the Middle Ages. If there was ever a time when the people had real freedom, its now....

reply to post by CIAGypsy


Yea but your missing the point the dark ages and other eras that you brought up there were bulid ups to such events while in 1913 it seemed that everything hit the fan almost out of no where, World War 1 started also it began the year the Fed was put in place and how did that work out for America.


I don't think were as close to freedom as we have ever been, take a look around alot of former freedom loving Americans are now begining to embrace Socialism not to mention what is happening to countries around the world in terms of war.

I contend for America anyway the most freedom we felt was during and up to the point Kennedy was killed especially in terms of economic success.

If your China disregard everything i said because in terms of economics this is there peek.

Originally posted by King Seesar
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

Yea but your missing the point the dark ages and other eras that you brought up there were bulid ups to such events while in 1913 it seemed that everything hit the fan almost out of no where, World War 1 started also it began the year the Fed was put in place and how did that work out for America.

I would have to vehemently disagree with this assessment. People are not routinely drawn, quartered, hanged, or burned as heretics in the town square....and that's just ONE example! Have you ever seen a man gutted like an animal while he's still alive? Not a pretty sight....

Originally posted by King Seesar
I don't think were as close to freedom as we have ever been, take a look around alot of former freedom loving Americans are now begining to embrace Socialism not to mention what is happening to countries around the world in terms of war.

Hey hey hey....what do you know!! We have something we actually AGREE on!! Woo hoo!!!

Disturbing isn't it? Too see your fellow neighbor go blindly or even WILLINGLY to the slaughter....

Originally posted by King Seesar
I contend for America anyway the most freedom we felt was during and up to the point Kennedy was killed especially in terms of economic success.

I contend that the "downslide" of America began with the New Deal. Once people bought in to the concept of having the government "take care of them," it was all over. They willingly drank the kool-aid.

Originally posted by King Seesar
If your China disregard everything i said because in terms of economics this is there peek.

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Every civilization has a natural lifecycle. Ours just happens to be in its death throes.... So how will you prepare yourself for the new era? That's what you should REALLY be asking yourself...

reply to post by CIAGypsy


I agree its not normal to be rounded up and hung and such but those were the times and people understood this stuff went on as disgusting and evil as it was and i condem it to the up most degree but in 1913 WW1 seemed to happen over night and people weren't acustom to wars and nations fighting in that kind of scale but it's all subjective......


Yep we agree on the Socialism issue and your right on the cycle i'm sure China will make the same mistake economically that both America and Japan did and ship there jobs over seas...how does super power Indonesia sound to ya....

As far as preparing for the change i have faith in my God and take each day as it comes and i will systematically adapt to the changes....Nazi America sounds fun huh.....um NO i'll be in another country if that happens.

I think this video i ran into in another thread pretty much somes up the CIA in terms of its shadowy past and what i was getting at, it's from Ted Gunderson the former FBI chief who knows way more then the average person when it comes to the inside dealings of America's special bureaus.......

The anatomy of Propaganda is:

1. Spot a group you want to vilify

2. Connect them to child-rape, child-sacrifice, murder and other horrific tales

3. Make up articles about them and deliver the articles to people who are too lazy to try to verify or research the facts.

Originally posted by gabby2011

I'm sure many of you have read the stuff written by Svali..an ex-illuminati programmer who broke away from her germanic bloodline illuminati family.

Hypnotic Programming was discontinued by MKULTRA in the 70s because it did not work as they had imagined, not to mention it having received much criticism for being unethical. Budgeting for hypnotic programming was retired after numerous failed experiments by some of the most bright minds in the field.

Fritz Springmeier, one of the more popular proposers of "Illuminati Programming" is a mentally unstable ex-convict, drug-addict and "christian" fundamentalist.

Originally posted by gabby2011

I'm sure many of you have read the stuff written by Svali..an ex-illuminati programmer who broke away from her germanic bloodline illuminati family.

The Illuminati dont exist. They are a fabrication of the socialist international used to vilify bankers and jews, later used by Nazis and Fascists to do the same. After WWII the word "Jew" was replaced by "Illuminati" in order to mask the agenda of the propaganda.

The Illuminati-Theories have been used by Stalin and Hitler for implanting mass delusion to justify blanket genocide.

This is just one bone chilling excerpts of what she was forced to participate in as a child .beware ,because it is truly atrocious and very sad.

If the text had any verifiable data whatsover it would be bone-chilling. It is much more bone-chilling that that such disinformation is received with open arms by Millions of people.

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Time will tell what is true..and what is not...

I have other info that I won't share on this site , that leads me to believe this could very well be true.

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Time will tell what is true..and what is not...

I have other info that I won't share on this site , that leads me to believe this could very well be true.

Oh, so now you admit that you're aiding and abetting murderers by intentionally witholding information that could be used to prosecute them?

Classy.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Time will tell what is true..and what is not...

I have other info that I won't share on this site , that leads me to believe this could very well be true.

Oh, so now you admit that you're aiding and abetting murderers by intentionally witholding information that could be used to prosecute them?

Classy.

oh for crying out loud...I have heard other things..that I can not prove totally..but my instincts tell me they are true. If you want to call that aiding and abetting..go ahead.

The chances of getting these people in court as well as convicted would be next to nil..you know that as well as I do.

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this is from wikipedia on the subject of mk ultra..

Although the CIA insists that MKULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MKULTRA was abandoned a "cover story.

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
reply to post by Schkeptick

 

There are several threads on Svali in the NWO forum. My personal opinion is that she is NOT legit, for various reasons.

I also don't buy into the whole child sacrifice agenda. There is also a whole thread on that (search Black Nobility).

It has been my experience that each of these "rumors" contains an ounce of truth mixed in with 10 lbs of pure unadulterated horse manure.

Don't believe it is being done by our politicians?

Conspiracy of Silence
Boys town Catholic School and Republican elite Lawrence King from the 80's child pedophilia ring
video.google.com...

Folks this crap is most definitely happening.

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Dear Skyfloating,

2. Connect them to child-rape, child-sacrifice, murder and other horrific tales

Does the above video help you any?

What ever happened to John Todd? He disappeared after they hauled him off to prison and has not been heard from since.

reply to post by MasterGemini


In short, No..... I do not believe child pedophilia rings are being perpetrated by our politicians.

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

In short, No..... I do not believe child pedophilia rings are being perpetrated by our politicians.

Did you watch the documentary Conspiracy of Silence? I linked it in my sig also

Lawrence King. . . . . are you familiar, 1980's republican busted for child sex trafficking?

Wikileaks Reveals U.S. Tax Dollars Fund Child Sex Slavery in Afghanistan
news.change.org...

Originally posted by MasterGemini
Lawrence King. . . . . are you familiar, 1980's republican busted for child sex trafficking?

Actually, he was busted for embezzlement.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by MasterGemini
Lawrence King. . . . . are you familiar, 1980's republican busted for child sex trafficking?

Actually, he was busted for embezzlement.

No, he was CONVICTED for that.

Watch the doc. Debunk it.

Now how about the other link?