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Third Intifada starts today! Egyptians and the world show solidarity with Palestine

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Well today's the day lets hope everyone stays safe (that means no killling the world is watching)

Here's a vid showing Egyptian solidarity.




Now the last two of these Intifada woke up the world in a big way to the realities of Zionist occupation. This one looks even bigger even with them pulling youtube and facebook accounts as fast as they can.

CNN

Their fate and that of their descendants has proven to be a key stumbling block to any Mideast peace. For most Palestinians the eventual return to their former homes in what is now Israel remains a fundamental requirement, while Israelis argue that any large-scale return of refugees would spell the end of the Jewish majority state. Large demonstrations are predicted in the West Bank, Jerusalem and in other parts of Israel on Sunday to mark the day. In advance of the commemoration, the Israeli military closed West Bank crossings, it said.


And thats the crux so what do you guys think will this be a peaceful rally and do they have any chance of Israel letting them back?



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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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I think odds are greater that the Egyptian army will turn its guns on the Egyptian protestors, while Israel just sort of squats there and pretends to not notice.

Could be that the Egyptian army doesn't, of course, and the Egyptians and Gazans meet in the middle, have a heap of shish kafta, and Israel... will sort of squat there and pretend to not notice.

Even though shish kafta is really good and Israel wishes someone would share



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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The world? bahahahahah! World, still laughing my guts at that one!



realities of Zionist occupation.


If you would have done your research. And yes it is not anybodies job on ATS to hold your hand you will see it is the Palestinian immigrants to that land who are committing an occupation! World, bahahahahahah! Speak for yourself and don't assume the "world" agrees with you!


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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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so much fail I dont even know where to start...

tell ya what read this Nakba Day

and tell me what it means
or show the ATS thread proving it was another hoax like 9/11...



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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There's already been some pre-Nakba Day violence, including one 17-year old Palestinian who was shot and killed by a security guard.

If that gets pushed to the front of the line, there will probably be some more violence, but I think the Palestinians (at least) realize that right now, peaceful protest will go further toward them gaining statehood in September than violence will.

Not sure how the Arabs from other supporting nations see it, though.

Oh, and there will be some pro-Israel counter-rallies going on, with flag-waving and everything. So that might stir the pot, too.
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Yes, i also fear that there will be more bloodshed today. Already 2 people are dead (one Palestinian from yesterday and one Israeli today) and there are wounded. Tensions will surely rise even more as the time goes by.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
There's already been some pre-Nakba Day violence, including one 17-year old Palestinian who was shot and killed by an Israeli soldier.

If that gets pushed to the front of the line, there will probably be some more violence, but I think the Palestinians (at least) realize that right now, peaceful protest will go further toward them gaining statehood in September than violence will.

Not sure how the Arabs from other supporting nations see it, though.

Oh, and there will be some pro-Israel counter-rallies going on, with flag-waving and everything. So that might stir the pot, too.


ya for sure I pray there's no violence either Im pro return rights but they need to recognize Israel and give them some kind of sovereign rights. But then again I'm a bit biased living in a land my ancestors also took by force.

Ya there's going to be violence if both sides are allowed to mingle I dont think they will tho.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by UcDat
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so much fail I dont even know where to start...

tell ya what read this Nakba Day

and tell me what it means
or show the ATS thread proving it was another hoax like 9/11...


OK for starters I noted that the "World" as you put it does not support it! learn to read English!

Secondly you referred to the Israeli occupation! Well I was just pointing out that a large large percentage of these Palestinians are not traditional land occupiers but recent immigrants.

Hoax? who said anything about hoax? Now you are just making things up! Very typical of a Palestinian supporter!

You talk about fail you are the fail! and a massive one at that! Learn to read next time! bahahahahah!

If you love it that much why are you not there yourself?

Just another Israel bashing thread! Surpise Surprise!
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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I have to say that was the funniest post I read all day today. Star for you sir. Hahahahahaha



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by phatpackage
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The world? bahahahahah! World, still laughing my guts at that one!


Well, I'll grant most of the nearly 7 billion people in the world pronbably aren't watching closely. But i assure you, the government and NGO's of the dozens of interested nations are watching, as are a great number of their citizens. Palau probably doesn't care, sure, but that's hardly something to bust a gut over.



If you would have done your research. And yes it is not anybodies job on ATS to hold your hand you will see it is the Palestinian immigrants to that land who are committing an occupation!


Even when properly presented this is a very stupid assertion. And you didn't even try to properly present it. That makes me kind of sad. It's like you failed at failing. It doesn't become success, but it's... well, it's just depressing, is what it is.


World, bahahahahahah! Speak for yourself and don't assume the "world" agrees with you!


Does the "bahahahahahahah!" actually help?
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 06:18 AM
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interested nations are watching,


I'm sure they are watching. I was referring to the solidarity part!



this is a very stupid assertion. And you didn't even try to properly present it


Looks like someone can't handle the truth! lol! As I said it is not my job to educate anybody!



Does the "bahahahahahahah!" actually help?


Yeah it does! lol! Just ask Chuck Norris!



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 06:26 AM
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I wish them luck.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by phatpackage
I'm sure they are watching. I was referring to the solidarity part!


You realize that Israel is really the only "odd man out" with regards to sympathy for Egypt's people and aspirations to governmental reform, right? Similar case for Palestinians - Almost every nation in the world recognizes the validity of palestine as a nation, it's just Israel, the US, and the UK holding out on that. And even the United States is supporting their new government.



Looks like someone can't handle the truth! lol! As I said it is not my job to educate anybody!


You're probably one of the people least-qualified to even think about educating me on this subject. I handle truth just fine - and I enjoy sharing, it's just that I prefer doing so at more reasonable times than 4:30 in the morning.

All I'm saying is, if you're going to gibber out some halfassed propaganda, you could at least make it presentable. We have some Israel propagandists around here, and they love their line of work. They actually try to make their bullcrap seem halfway convincing. You could at least put visible effort in and try to reach their standard. Message a few of them, see if you can't get an apprenticeship into their craft. maybe they have a few spare talking point flash cards laying around they could spare for you.



Yeah it does! lol! Just ask Chuck Norris!


Reading your posts is the literary equivalent of chugging a warm can of PBR.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 07:05 AM
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Who cares it was the whole world and the solidarity comment that was wrong!



You're probably one of the people least-qualified to even think about educating me on this subject.


Oh now now. Settle down tiger! It is blindingly obvious you are no match for me in the knowledge stakes of this subject! If you only knew!



All I'm saying is, if you're going to gibber out some halfassed propaganda


Ah jeez. Now that is laughable! You are one of the biggest (some might say the biggest Bahahahah) "pro extremist muslim" left wing/anti west propaganda artist on ATS. Bahahahahah! you talk about gibber! You are the master of that! bahahahahah!



Reading your posts is the literary equivalent of chugging a warm can of PBR


The very fact you have reacted this way means I have done my job well! Bahahahahah. Hook, line & ......... Bahahahah! I'm still in hysterics about that propaganda comment! Now that is gold! lol! lol!
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by UcDat
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so much fail I dont even know where to start...

tell ya what read this Nakba Day

and tell me what it means
or show the ATS thread proving it was another hoax like 9/11...


Don't worry, there are plenty of propaganda agents who swamp forums, FaceBook and YouTube to destroy any and all criticism of Israel whenever something flares up. We've seen them before.
It seems they are basically paid full time to combat any suggestion that Israel is responsible for anything.

Of course, the fact that we are seeing pictures and video footage of Israeli soldiers opening fire on protesters now officially makes them just as bad as every despotic regime we have seen under attack over the last few months. They might not be murdering their own people, but that doesn't make them any better than that dictators we are seeing fall all over the world.

I sincerely hope that the state of Israel is the next to see the kind of uprising every other regime and dictatorship has witnessed.

Israel has not learned anything from their own history, and they have ignored what has been happening all around them with arrogance.
Their actions today will only fuel the fire against their occupation and theft of land, and now they will face attack from all borders simultaneously. And it serves them right.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Are you able to offer a valid opinion rather than simply attacking another poster without offering anything in return? You're being a troll, and nothing more.
That just tells me that we are right about your intentions and you are simply trying to destroy any criticism of Israel without actually offering any kind of valid argument.

So come on, step up to the plate and give something of relevance, or are you just paid to attack anyone with an opinion against your government?
(I know you state that you're Australian, but I've found most Australians to be good with written language and self expression, and you are clearly not).
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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I defend Israel on this board and no one has ever
offered to pay me for it either.
I wish that I could be a paid supporter of Israel.I
would want that payment to be in gold and silver



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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The Israeli attack has already begun:

There have been protests at four border control points, where Palestinians are trying to take down fences and are throwing rocks.

I'm sure the Israelis were shaking in their boots with their machine guns, riot gear, and tanks.


Our correspondent, at the Qalandiya checkpoint there, says there is a stand-off now, but dozens of Palestinians have been injured.

Palestinian protesters have been throwing stones at Israeli security forces, who have been firing tear gas and rubber bullets.


On the occupied Golan Heights, the Israeli military said it had only fired warning shots as a large number of protesters tried to breach a border fence near the village of Majdal Shams. But reports said at least four people had been killed and dozens injured.

Israel's army says this is a "serious" incursion. Brig Gen Yoav Mordechai said soldiers were still trying to control the crowds and that dozens of protesters had crossed.

...

Gen Mordechai says Israeli troops fired as demonstrators began vandalising the fence.

Lebanese military officials say four people were killed.



Bold mine. There are reports of four people killed, dozens injured. Near the end of the article, you can find this gem illustrating Israeli oppression:


Syria denounced Israeli actions in the Golan Heights and Lebanon as "criminal", Agence France-Presse news agency reported.

On the Israel-Gaza frontier, at the Erez border crossing, Israeli troops opened fire with tanks and machine guns, injuring dozens, Palestinian medical officials said.


From BBC Report

Yes, I know there is bad blood between the Palestinians and the Israelis and reports from either side should be taken with a grain of salt. Here are some numbers coming from Al Jazeera:


At least one Palestinian has been killed and up to 50 others wounded in northern Gaza as Israeli troops opened fire on a march of at least 1,000 people heading towards the Erez crossing between the Gaza Strip and Israel.

A group of Palestinians, including children,
marching to mark "Nakba Day" were shot by the Israeli army after crossing a Hamas checkpoint and entering what Israel calls a "buffer zone" - an empty area between checkpoints where Israeli soldiers generally shoot trespassers, Al Jazeera correspondent Nicole Johnston reported from Gaza City on Sunday.

"We are just hearing that one person has been killed and about 50 people have been injured," Johnston said.


Here's where it gets even more sticky:


Syrian state television reported that Israeli forces killed four Syrian citizens who had been taking part in an anti-Israeli rally on the Syrian side of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights border on Sunday.

Israeli army radio said dozens were wounded when Palestinian refugees from the Syrian side of the Golan Heights border were shot for trying to break through the frontier fence.


Israel doesn't have many friends in the area, but if they treat others the same way they've been treating the Palestinians, there might be enough pressure building to force Israel into giving concessions to Palestine, or there might be full-out war. Here's hoping for the former.



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