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It's official, GOD was a space alien, and NOT our real creator

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posted on May, 26 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Can you say greys?? They were manipulating various species for the E-l*th who love a diverse and interesting animal population on their 'vacation' worlds long before they accidentally created humanity.


Delusional. You really are just making this stuff up as you go. You can pick any made up name out a hat, and lay any claim you wish.

Well, I can trump that. Because none of you know about the Struvians. Evolution is true because the Struvians created it in order to create a system of support so that life would continue in this planet after they died off.
The Struvians were the plant people mentioned by the Myan histories. Servants to the gods of the Second Age. When they discovered the gods were displeased with them and were going to destroy them, they created evolution so that some of the things they learned would not be forgotten. One of those things was how to pass on information to guys who want to use that information to disprove crazyness ideas on internet forums.
I was lucky enough to be the recipient of that gift.

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.




posted on May, 26 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Butterbone

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Can you say greys?? They were manipulating various species for the E-l*th who love a diverse and interesting animal population on their 'vacation' worlds long before they accidentally created humanity.


Delusional. You really are just making this stuff up as you go. You can pick any made up name out a hat, and lay any claim you wish.

Well, I can trump that. Because none of you know about the Struvians. Evolution is true because the Struvians created it in order to create a system of support so that life would continue in this planet after they died off.
The Struvians were the plant people mentioned by the Myan histories. Servants to the gods of the Second Age. When they discovered the gods were displeased with them and were going to destroy them, they created evolution so that some of the things they learned would not be forgotten. One of those things was how to pass on information to guys who want to use that information to disprove crazyness ideas on internet forums.
I was lucky enough to be the recipient of that gift.

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.


Cool, I like thongs. LOL



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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I'm going to apologize. I apologize.

I don't understand your reasoning in this thread, and it's frustrating to me. I'm not going to belittle your ideas any further. I'll just choose not to be involved in them anymore.

And I commend you for handling yourself as you have when people take shots at what you feel to be earnest discussion of something you take seriously.

Again I apologize.



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Butterbone

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Can you say greys?? They were manipulating various species for the E-l*th who love a diverse and interesting animal population on their 'vacation' worlds long before they accidentally created humanity.


Delusional. You really are just making this stuff up as you go. You can pick any made up name out a hat, and lay any claim you wish.

Well, I can trump that. Because none of you know about the Struvians. Evolution is true because the Struvians created it in order to create a system of support so that life would continue in this planet after they died off.
The Struvians were the plant people mentioned by the Myan histories. Servants to the gods of the Second Age. When they discovered the gods were displeased with them and were going to destroy them, they created evolution so that some of the things they learned would not be forgotten. One of those things was how to pass on information to guys who want to use that information to disprove crazyness ideas on internet forums.
I was lucky enough to be the recipient of that gift.

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.


Well, if you are so unable to trust yourself that you require others to tell you what to believe, based on what they can (conveniently) 'prove' in the very tightly defined limitations the NWO bunch have created and called 'science', then sure.

Sadly, there is so much more than what is contained in that highly spun, tightly wrapped and very teeny tiny 'belief' box. But you'll never know it because it can't be 'proven' by the methodology of today's 'science', although it could AND would be if the NWO bunch wanted it to be..

Heck, anything can be 'proven' if the environment and scientists are manipulated/bribed enough.. as well as the official 'interpretation' of it all. None of it is objective. It is all checked very carefully to make sure it doesn't call to question any of the things the NWO bunch wants to remain hidden. IF it does, then rest assured, either it gets 'reinterpreted' or the scientists don't get published. If they persist, they will get blacklisted and possible even just disappear one day. The NWO bunch are NOT kindly benefactors, by any stretch, but they have LOTS and LOTS of money to 'fund' research and have bought all the media that would publish anything from scientists in general.

And even if that weren't so, it still is just a bunch of people agreeing on the same opinion, nothing more, nothing less. If the data gets process thru a human brain, then it is no longer 'data'; it becomes their opinion of the data, and anyone who processes the original persons opinion of the data, is just adding their own opinion on top of the original opinion. Therefore these highly touted 'Facts' of yours are really just opinions most people agree upon.
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posted on May, 26 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by Archirvion
reply to post by itsthetooth
 


Holy mother of god
that was one long reading
BUT i loved it. Well done job there.

Just to add something here. We human beings is also an ET race per definition.

And a story according to archaeologist findings through old egyptian runes.

The Annanuki,wich were the ones from the heavens came or the princes of the royal seed ALSO believed there was a god. They according to runes didnt either understand what GOD was,they simply didnt have knowledge of it,but they believed that GOD whatever that might be did exist.

There are 5 documented ET races per today that are known for scientists (+historiansarchaelogists wich has worked on the subject)

1:Humans
2:Gray
3:Annanuki
4:?
5:?
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From what I see in the racial unconscious there are gobs more

-E-l*th (aka elves/gods of ancient Europe and Scandinavia)
-Jue-sah (aka when in human bodies, Jews who are behind the covert and not so covert attempts to enslave humanity)
-The elder races (like unicorns, gnomes, fairies, and other less well known aliens, most of whom worked with the elves)
-The Blues (tall skinny blue people who are going by the name Pleadieans, I think)
-All of the 'demon' homeworld entities like incubus, succubus, demons, crystalline beings and an number of less well known others
-The 'vampire' virus (with it's attached sentience which mutates and adapts human bodies for it's use)
-Greys (a shy xenophobic species with a hive mind who can manipulate energy at the molecular level and work with DNA)
-Satchsquash and Yeti (cousin species who were here helping to stabilize the earth's crust after Atlantis)
-Wise Mothers (large elephant type beings that were brought here to try to civilize humans during the last ice age)
-The watchers (employed by the Jue-sah to spy on humans because human minds can't be read that well, and the Jue-sah wanted to know what the humans were up to)
-A small otter type being that the Jue-sah gave favored royalty as a pet (why there is the custom of fur-collared capes--the otter beings were usually laying across the shoulders but they were empathic and were spying on the human royalty)
-Dracs/reptilian/lizard people (Jue-sah took them under their protection after Atlantis when down, and the Jue-sah have used them to do their 'heavy lifting' and put them up as the 'true' master race with all the planted Annanuki 'legends', so we humans will hate and kill them when the SHTF while the Jue-sah sneak out the back door.
-The alien species behind the Cheshire cat. (The 'story' is actually about this alien still in alien form, but he died and is now human)
-The Star People (they were the 'gods' of the native americans and a much nicer bunch of aliens who protected their people from the Jue-sah until their rescue ships got here in the 1400's or so. That is why that is when America was 'discovered'; there was no one to stop the Jue-sah anymore)

This is just a partial list of the ex-alien spirits I've encountered that are now in human bodies. But I can follow their energy path back into the racial unconscious and see their origins and why they were here. That is what started me seeing the true history of the world... it slowly came together as I encountered more and different kinds of ex-alien spirits and their role here.

But it is also VERY clear in the racial unconscious that humans aren't aliens, at all. This is our homeworld but all the alien DNA messes with us. Also the greys did adapt us to be like their worker greys, as close as possible, so that means no fur since we were made to be indoors working for them, stuff like that.


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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by Butterbone

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.


Oh, and actually the greys are plant based. So there could be some truth, however unintentional on your part, in what you say. I don't see they interacting with the Star people much though. The Star people were the primary aliens involved with the native american humans, and had the greys adapt their humans to look more like them, just as the elves, and greys and assorted other aliens did.

And if you learn to trust yourself, then you don't need other people's opinions of whether or not it is 'true'. You'd feel it for yourself. Which is why that whole 'gut' instinct thing is so laughed at and treated with such distain by the media and the leadership in general. They so don't want you to trust yourself because you would so quickly see thru all the lies and manipulations you are being spun with every single day by them.


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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Does it ever occur to you that your beloved religion, 'science' is also just another control tool being used to control and manipulate you, just like every other version of their created religions?? So NO, you aren't going to find any proof for things that the Jue-sah/Illuminati/NWO bunch don't want you to know about.

Science is a religion? Maybe we should first ask, what is religion?

From Wiktionary:

A collection of practices, based on beliefs and teachings that are highly valued or sacred.

But what constitutes a belief?

From Wiktionary:

Mental acceptance of a claim as truth regardless of supporting or contrary empirical evidence.

Religion is based on a disregard for empirical evidence. Science is, therefore, the exact opposite of religion.

And if you’re going to slag on science, it’s certainly your prerogative. But it seems really hypocritical for you to do so and then enjoy the benefits of what science has provided to you, like the computer you’re using to post about how awful science is.
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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Butterbone

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Can you say greys?? They were manipulating various species for the E-l*th who love a diverse and interesting animal population on their 'vacation' worlds long before they accidentally created humanity.


Delusional. You really are just making this stuff up as you go. You can pick any made up name out a hat, and lay any claim you wish.

Well, I can trump that. Because none of you know about the Struvians. Evolution is true because the Struvians created it in order to create a system of support so that life would continue in this planet after they died off.
The Struvians were the plant people mentioned by the Myan histories. Servants to the gods of the Second Age. When they discovered the gods were displeased with them and were going to destroy them, they created evolution so that some of the things they learned would not be forgotten. One of those things was how to pass on information to guys who want to use that information to disprove crazyness ideas on internet forums.
I was lucky enough to be the recipient of that gift.

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.


I never heard of that name, where did you get it from?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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Excellent post OP, a well thought out and mature approach to a hard subject. Out of many threads that i read here this one is one of my favorites. I would love to hear more about this subject and see some of your references(not that i want to validate but i want to know more.) I would very much like to have you and a few of the other informed mature members who contributed to this thread to have a good dicussion about this subject without the confines of texted based communication as it is a very poor way of communicating im sure many would agree. I think that with a logical approach with informed members there could be a start for a new way of religion on a grand scale. Even if only half of what you posted here is correct i think the people of the world should know about it. Something like a church were you dont go to pray but you go to hear the facts, the evidence and listen to peoples` research without ridcule or condemnation from traditional religion. One point i wanted to comment on was what you said about how humans powers were being blocked or taken away and yes you are right about that but it is up to the individule to reclaim what is lost, thats the test! Finding a way to unlock what is locked the key is and always has been implanted in us. But BUT! There are powers in the world that would very much like it if we stayed as (for lack of a better defined term) Sheeple to more easily control us. Thanks OP and the few that contributed so far, i`ll try to follow as best i can but these one liner posters make it hard. 2 pages one day 30 the next, ya`ll know how it is.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth

Originally posted by Butterbone

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Can you say greys?? They were manipulating various species for the E-l*th who love a diverse and interesting animal population on their 'vacation' worlds long before they accidentally created humanity.


Delusional. You really are just making this stuff up as you go. You can pick any made up name out a hat, and lay any claim you wish.

Well, I can trump that. Because none of you know about the Struvians. Evolution is true because the Struvians created it in order to create a system of support so that life would continue in this planet after they died off.
The Struvians were the plant people mentioned by the Myan histories. Servants to the gods of the Second Age. When they discovered the gods were displeased with them and were going to destroy them, they created evolution so that some of the things they learned would not be forgotten. One of those things was how to pass on information to guys who want to use that information to disprove crazyness ideas on internet forums.
I was lucky enough to be the recipient of that gift.

Plant people gave me magic knowledge to use on the internet. Therefor your argument is null.
You will have to use evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise I am right.
Have a good evening, take your meds, and all hail the Struvians, bringers of the thong.


I never heard of that name, where did you get it from?


Made it up, I'm sure, to make a point.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by iterationzero
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Does it ever occur to you that your beloved religion, 'science' is also just another control tool being used to control and manipulate you, just like every other version of their created religions?? So NO, you aren't going to find any proof for things that the Jue-sah/Illuminati/NWO bunch don't want you to know about.

Science is a religion? Maybe we should first ask, what is religion?

From Wiktionary:

A collection of practices, based on beliefs and teachings that are highly valued or sacred.

But what constitutes a belief?

From Wiktionary:

Mental acceptance of a claim as truth regardless of supporting or contrary empirical evidence.

Religion is based on a disregard for empirical evidence. Science is, therefore, the exact opposite of religion.

And if you’re going to slag on science, it’s certainly your prerogative. But it seems really hypocritical for you to do so and then enjoy the benefits of what science has provided to you, like the computer you’re using to post about how awful science is.
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I'm not saying that what humanity has invented is bad.. We are amazing in the things we can create.

I'm saying that way too many sheeple are trained/conned into accepting the limited and limiting confines of what currently available 'science' allows us to 'believe' along with the whole "turning a blind eye" phenomenon by many of it's disciples as to how 'science' (like any other religion) can be easily manipulated and controlled by those who own the research facilities and publishing houses. It requires you to take only whatever is printed/'tested' by 'scientists' as facts, even as any authority in any religion requires that you take whatever is printed as the only and true word of god or whatever.

That is my problem with it.. in that respect it does require 'faith' on the part of the 'believer' that all the published information is *true* and that you are indeed being given all the information about EVERYTHING that is being researched.

Can you "prove" that you are being given either of those things??? No. You just 'believe' you are because you are being successfully spun by their manipulations and misdirections. In which case, yes, you are every bit as fooled as your 'religious' brethren, and on par with them in most every way. Like I've said, 'science' is the new religion of the 'educated' masses.


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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by StratosFear
Excellent post OP, a well thought out and mature approach to a hard subject. Out of many threads that i read here this one is one of my favorites. I would love to hear more about this subject and see some of your references(not that i want to validate but i want to know more.) I would very much like to have you and a few of the other informed mature members who contributed to this thread to have a good dicussion about this subject without the confines of texted based communication as it is a very poor way of communicating im sure many would agree. I think that with a logical approach with informed members there could be a start for a new way of religion on a grand scale. Even if only half of what you posted here is correct i think the people of the world should know about it. Something like a church were you dont go to pray but you go to hear the facts, the evidence and listen to peoples` research without ridcule or condemnation from traditional religion. One point i wanted to comment on was what you said about how humans powers were being blocked or taken away and yes you are right about that but it is up to the individule to reclaim what is lost, thats the test! Finding a way to unlock what is locked the key is and always has been implanted in us. But BUT! There are powers in the world that would very much like it if we stayed as (for lack of a better defined term) Sheeple to more easily control us. Thanks OP and the few that contributed so far, i`ll try to follow as best i can but these one liner posters make it hard. 2 pages one day 30 the next, ya`ll know how it is.


Your very welcome, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Just a few to look at are.....
Chariots of the gods by Eric Von Daniken and Lloyd Pye's DNA video.
www.youtube.com...
Some findings by Zecharia Sitchen as well.
And of course the bible. I think the older KJ version will be best.
Decades of study of the paranormal or alien life sure helps as well.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by iterationzero
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Does it ever occur to you that your beloved religion, 'science' is also just another control tool being used to control and manipulate you, just like every other version of their created religions?? So NO, you aren't going to find any proof for things that the Jue-sah/Illuminati/NWO bunch don't want you to know about.

Science is a religion? Maybe we should first ask, what is religion?

From Wiktionary:

A collection of practices, based on beliefs and teachings that are highly valued or sacred.

But what constitutes a belief?

From Wiktionary:

Mental acceptance of a claim as truth regardless of supporting or contrary empirical evidence.

Religion is based on a disregard for empirical evidence. Science is, therefore, the exact opposite of religion.

And if you’re going to slag on science, it’s certainly your prerogative. But it seems really hypocritical for you to do so and then enjoy the benefits of what science has provided to you, like the computer you’re using to post about how awful science is.
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I'm not saying that what humanity has invented is bad.. We are amazing in the things we can create.

I'm saying that way too many sheeple are trained/conned into accepting the limited and limiting confines of what currently available 'science' allows us to 'believe' along with the whole "turning a blind eye" phenomenon by many of it's disciples as to how 'science' (like any other religion) can be easily manipulated and controlled by those who own the research facilities and publishing houses. It requires you to take only whatever is printed/'tested' by 'scientists' as facts, even as any authority in any religion requires that you take whatever is printed as the only and true word of god or whatever.

That is my problem with it.. in that respect it does require 'faith' on the part of the 'believer' that all the published information is *true* and that you are indeed being given all the information about EVERYTHING that is being researched.

Can you "prove" that you are being given either of those things??? No. You just 'believe' you are because you are being successfully spun by their manipulations and misdirections. In which case, yes, you are every bit as fooled as your 'religious' brethren, and on par with them in most every way. Like I've said, 'science' is the new religion of the 'educated' masses.


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I didn't think you would have any comeback for this observation of mine, iterationzero. In fact I bet you've never even thought of that level of awareness. Meta-level observations are even more important than the obvious ones though. "What is the overarching pattern and what purpose does it serve" are always good questions to ask yourself about any topic.
And really.. quoting wikipedia?? Like that's any really valid resource??? Sheesh, people can edit it all the time, so any information there is always wide open to being manipulated.


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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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I didn't think you would have any comeback for this observation of mine, iterationzero.

Sorry, wasn't aware that I needed to respond to every half-baked rambling about how science is just a religion from someone who, based on their statements, obviously doesn't really understand how science works. I could literally spend all of my free time on ATS doing just that. You want to believe in your fairy tales and be a hypocrite about the value of science, that's fine. I'll stick to what's observable and testable.


And really.. quoting wikipedia?? Like that's any really valid resource??? Sheesh, people can edit it all the time, so any information there is always wide open to being manipulated.

And really... you don't understand the difference between Wikipedia and Wiktionary?? Like you don't know what a dictionary is??? Sheesh, you'd think that I wouldn't find similar definitions if I went to dictionary.com or opened up a copy of Webster's. If you want to redefine words to suit your needs, that's fine. But at least be honest about what you're doing when someone is able to call you out on it.
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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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I have read this whole thread ..

Personally I don't knock anyone’s views ,, just had to get that out' but about the God issue being an Alien
first let me say something that has to do with the Holy Spirit ..

although in my traditionnal beliefs we leave out the word Holy.
I practice a very spiritual kind of faith and actually it really isn’t considered a faith .. it is oral and traditional ways of my tribal people..
who very much look at mother earth in the whole picture even before it was to be.
Mother Earth gives life .. and the only other thing human wise that we compare to her to or close to her would be a woman cause she gives birth.

As for saying that
A qoute by itsthetooth
"God was a space alien and not our real creator"
is not quite how I relate it to be ..
let me try to clarify this .. In my tradition we see the GOD everyone refers to, as a spiritual being or enity.

Who gave us the stars and they were the star people ,, who gave us plant life, rock, the grandfather moon
who gave us the spider people and the ant people and everything was of life above and below above their was spiritual life ..

I would like to advise you about this wiki link .. it gives a brief look at some of the beliefs of a traditional Native American .. each tribe has their own oral beliefs and some or all have very much in common or share the same beliefs.
Many Native American people have converted to being Christians ,, and because I lived on my reservation for many many years and can honestly say the religious church’s use to frown upon our pipe ceremonies but it has changed much over the past.

That is why it is so hard for me to understand some posts in this thread because it almost seems that their is such Christians who do believe in the Spiritual stuff like after life and Spiritual entity’s or beings .. who everyone refers to them as Aliens and technically speaking they are?

I guess my answer to this Question would be to say A spiritual Being gave us our universe our galaxy and everything else that followed I wouldn’t say he created it he gave all this to us .. the reason I leave out create is this was a spiritual happening and we don’t know if it was done just by thought or done by some unforeseen power that the spiritual one possessed .. we don’t know .. So that is why I say the spiritual being gave all of this to us ...

Native American mythology

en.wikipedia.org...

over the years but only just being curious I have sat in on bible studies from various religions
and in the end I .. I always come back to my own beliefs .. so I always thought this is what everyone basically does
and I can see those who are chreistians trying to understand why it is people even believe in Aliens and other stuff.

Well I belive that all things are living even a rock



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by iterationzero
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I didn't think you would have any comeback for this observation of mine, iterationzero.

Sorry, wasn't aware that I needed to respond to every half-baked rambling about how science is just a religion from someone who, based on their statements, obviously doesn't really understand how science works. I could literally spend all of my free time on ATS doing just that. You want to believe in your fairy tales and be a hypocrite about the value of science, that's fine. I'll stick to what's observable and testable.


Of course you will. They have you well spun, indeed. And good one.. way to shift the focus, eh? It is hardly half baked to call you on your lack of awareness of the meta-level of things. You can't prove that you are in fact getting all the 'true' facts, since you simply can not prove that every researcher who gets funding and wants to be published isn't vulnerable to being manipulated/bribed. Nor can you prove that all the research being done is in fact what is being made available for you to know about. If the NWO bunch wants to hide info, then you can believe they will, and do. So nope, sorry, but you are taking both those things on 'faith' which makes you every bit the true believer that any other religion has.


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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Of course you will. They have you well spun, indeed. And good one.. way to shift the focus, eh?

Spun? Please. For all you know I'm one of "them". But keep believing in your fairy tales for which you have no evidence. All you've done is built yourself a new religion. Normally, this wouldn't concern me in the slightest; I'd hardly begrudge a person their particular articles of faith. But when you start making claims regarding science, you either have evidence or you do not. You do not.


It is hardly half baked to call you on your lack of awareness of the meta-level of things.

You're right, it isn't even half-baked. More like a quarter. Maybe an eighth. Unless, of course, you have some kind of demonstrable evidence for the "meta-level of things".


You can't prove that you are in fact getting all the 'true' facts, since you simply can not prove that every researcher who gets funding and wants to be published isn't vulnerable to being manipulated/bribed.

It's functionally impossible to prove a negative position. You're the one seeming to claim that they're being bribed or coerced or whatever, so the burden of proof is on you to show that they are.


Nor can you prove that all the research being done is in fact what is being made available for you to know about.

Absolutely true, I can't prove that every research result is published. Then again, you can't prove the existence of the conspiracy that would be required to cover up the amount of research that you're talking about.


If the NWO bunch wants to hide info, then you can believe they will, and do. So nope, sorry, but you are taking both those things on 'faith' which makes you every bit the true believer that any other religion has.

This still wouldn't invalidate findings that have been made public. Read journal articles, they're pretty descriptive in their methodology, data, and conclusions. Why? Because other scientists have to be able to replicate the work and verify the findings.

You can claim that research is being suppressed, but you have yet to show proof that it is. You can claim that the published research is invalid, but you have yet to show that it is.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by NorthStargal52
I have read this whole thread ..

Personally I don't knock anyone’s views ,, just had to get that out' but about the God issue being an Alien
first let me say something that has to do with the Holy Spirit ..

although in my traditionnal beliefs we leave out the word Holy.
I practice a very spiritual kind of faith and actually it really isn’t considered a faith .. it is oral and traditional ways of my tribal people..
who very much look at mother earth in the whole picture even before it was to be.
Mother Earth gives life .. and the only other thing human wise that we compare to her to or close to her would be a woman cause she gives birth.

As for saying that
A qoute by itsthetooth
"God was a space alien and not our real creator"
is not quite how I relate it to be ..
let me try to clarify this .. In my tradition we see the GOD everyone refers to, as a spiritual being or enity.

Who gave us the stars and they were the star people ,, who gave us plant life, rock, the grandfather moon
who gave us the spider people and the ant people and everything was of life above and below above their was spiritual life ..

I would like to advise you about this wiki link .. it gives a brief look at some of the beliefs of a traditional Native American .. each tribe has their own oral beliefs and some or all have very much in common or share the same beliefs.
Many Native American people have converted to being Christians ,, and because I lived on my reservation for many many years and can honestly say the religious church’s use to frown upon our pipe ceremonies but it has changed much over the past.

That is why it is so hard for me to understand some posts in this thread because it almost seems that their is such Christians who do believe in the Spiritual stuff like after life and Spiritual entity’s or beings .. who everyone refers to them as Aliens and technically speaking they are?

I guess my answer to this Question would be to say A spiritual Being gave us our universe our galaxy and everything else that followed I wouldn’t say he created it he gave all this to us .. the reason I leave out create is this was a spiritual happening and we don’t know if it was done just by thought or done by some unforeseen power that the spiritual one possessed .. we don’t know .. So that is why I say the spiritual being gave all of this to us ...

Native American mythology

en.wikipedia.org...

over the years but only just being curious I have sat in on bible studies from various religions
and in the end I .. I always come back to my own beliefs .. so I always thought this is what everyone basically does
and I can see those who are chreistians trying to understand why it is people even believe in Aliens and other stuff.

Well I belive that all things are living even a rock


Nice post, and TY. I was pretty much taught the same beliefs on god being a spirit being. I guess after careful study, It's looking more like a way to explain an unexplainable presence.

I think if anyone ever did come into contact with someone that uses telepathy on them, it would certainly be breathtaking, scary and unexplainable. Of course they didn't have the word telepathy back in biblical times.

I think there must be a creator, oddly enough, one reply on here saying that its Trevor the giant celestial galaxy squid is fitting with what they show on the history channel.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Here are some additional thoughts on your topic
cre·ate

1. To cause to exist; bring into being. See Synonyms at found1.
2. To give rise to; produce: That remark created a stir.
3. To invest with an office or title; appoint.
4. To produce through artistic or imaginative effort: create a poem; create a role.
adj. Archaic
Created.

1.) To cause to exist; bring into being…depending on your beliefs this has many meanings

2.) To give rise to; produce… here again depending on your beliefs this has many meanings
3. To invest with an office or title; appoint.
4.) To produce through artistic or imaginative effort…depending on your beliefs this has many meanings

Example to cause to exist bring into being .. Here are my views on this .. While the Superior Spiritual Being may be someone I whole heartedly thank for giving us the air to breath the earth to plow an reap.
I still don’t know how he put forth all these things and I was told never to question it . It doesn’t matter how it happened it matters that we can use it all in the right way. To show and give appreciation .

you say ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that God is a space Alien
and not our real creator

Ok i'm not here to dispute your words but to add my thoughts only ..


Is God a space Alien well ok lets look how you have worded this …..IMO …the biblical word GOD
who is part of a trinity
The father the son and the holy ghost
So we have the father who is GOD
The Son who is Jesus
And the holy ghost …who is the holy spirit of GOD

Here is the thing : I have given this some thought ..

Aliens have never been seen as holy not that I know of .. They have never been seen as spiritual.
Aliens are the beings that are non human non life forms they are entity’s ..
An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence.
In ways these entity’s are very intelligent and in other ways lack human ways so they seem dumb or serve no real purpose in our world .. Yet they visit us

I believe it is true that holy spiritual beings exist ..Also have you ever gave this a thought that the Superior Being gave certain lower spiritual beings the right to a moral visions or privileges as how to control earthlings? as with each an every other religion or group beliefs they seem to have very different views .. Bringing back ancient beliefs
Indeed there is much to this all and it involves the sky and many issues , very interesting to see how others views are ..



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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I think ive read Chariot of the Gods at least 10 times i love that book. I will look into the other references you mentioned. This info needs to get out and spread far, despite the religous fanatics out there. The truth is hard for some to accept, then again we not believe the truth even if it hit us in the face. I think its time we excavated the Egytian pyramids and the ruins of advanced ancient cultures to find out. Yes we might break a few old pots and tear down some archaic walls but if these were meant to preserve something even more important behind them why keep them up? We will all find out the truth very very soon.




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