IMF Leader Arrested After Alleged Sex Attack

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Isn't it interesting how the police are trying to paint him as guilty in the press by claiming that leaving his cell phone behind is evidence of 'being in a hurry'?

And, if he was indeed in a hurry to 'flee a crime scene', why would he call the hotel and ask them to bring his cell phone to the airport??????? I mean, if he's 'fleeing', and hes ALREADY AT THE AIRPORT, why would he tell someone AT THE HOTEL OF THE ALLEGED ATTACK and give them his exact location? Yet one more highly suspicious aspect of this story.

Also of note is that a French political rival tweeted the info before it had ever been released to the press. How did he know about it? He claims a friend of his works at the same hotel.

Jonathan Pinet, a political science student, tweeted the news of Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s arrest before it had even happened, according to Le Post, a French newspaper.

Some have suggested Mr Strauss-Kahn could also have been stitched up by his rivals inside the International Monetary Fund, as well as by rivals within the French political establishment.

Mr Pinet immediately denied that he was part of a right-wing plot against Mr Strauss-Kahn, merely saying that he was told the news by a friend of his working at the Sofitel hotel.

What luck for him that he just so happened to have a friend working in the same hotel who somehow had access to very specific aspects of a case before it ever hit the news.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

The aspects of this story that dont really make sense just continue to come in.

These are excellent points.

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by GalacticJoe

This has really bothered me. That a "source close to the defense" leaked to the NYPost that "There may well have been consent" says to me that there is incontrovertible forensic evidence (bodily fluids) that some sexual act did indeed take place.

Because I'm strongly inclined to believe DSK was set up (he has powerful enemies), my take on this is:

TPTB know DSK's weakness. Someone hired the African maid to perform for DSK with promises that she would be taken care of. There's no exchange of money yet, too obvious.

DSK may have wanted to act out a rough sex scenario with a "slave." OR she was told to approach DSK when he was vulnerable to temptation -- just out of the shower.

After the deed was done, she cried rape with plenty of body fluids to back up her story.

If this is true, I would say the maid is in danger of being offed after she has served her purpose in ruining him.
Whoever hired her would not want the money traced.

Then again the reward may not be money. This may concern her family in Ghana. TPTB have different ways of manipulating people to do what they want.

It will be interesting to see what unfolds.

That's more or less the same scenario I am suspecting at the moment. I suspect, at this point, that he either

A-paid her for sex (and was paid to do so by someone setting the trap) or

B-paid her for sex but got too rough

C-she seduced him as per instructions and a bribe.

That is all just my guess at this point based on reading just about every article i can find on the subject.



Interestingly enough, it is being reported DSK called it three weeks ago:

Only three weeks ago, Strauss-Kahn evoked such a possibility in an interview with French newspaper Libération when he said he thought he was under surveillance and named the three principal difficulties he foresaw if he was to stand for the presidential elections.

He said he could see himself becoming the victim of a honey trap: “a woman raped in a car park and who’s been promised 500,000 or a million euros to invent such a story ...”

www.guardian.co.uk...

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Reaching

 

I personally have always thought that it would be the stupidest possible thing to do, force someone to perform oral sex on you. Unless they had no teeth.

But, I have heard of it being done more than once, even without a weapon. If you think of it in terms of power, it could be even more proof of your power, like someone who taunts and pokes a dog who COULD bite them, but who has been conditioned to be submissive and so allows itself to be abused.

Women, for whatever reason, conditioning, nature, seem less willing than men to go to the extremes in terms of physical violence that it would take to win against a bigger opponent. The human species is not terribly sexually dimorphic but there is a size difference. Men have an advantage, but not a huge one. But because of the advantage, a female entering a fight with a male would need to be willing to use much more potentially fatal force to ensure their success. (Ie hitting the head with an object, stabbing them, shooting them) You would have to be willing to go to the brink of killing them to make sure they did not hurt you worse for defending yourself, using their natural physical advantage.

Many women seem incredibly reluctant to take that step towards more permanent physical harm to win. And perhaps rightly so. The courts do not look favorably on it.

But bottom line, it is plausible that someone would be afraid of the consequences of biting someones willie off, depending on their own personality and physical size, and conditioning.

This deserves a bump.

I don't always agree with your analyses - but in this case, I think that you are spot on.

There are many types of coercion. Of them, the social kind and the economic kind that this man would be so very familiar with, are probably the most insidious.

Let him have his day in court. If there isn't sufficient evidence, the case will be found to be so.

I feel very badly for this woman all around. The storm of crap coming her way from defenders and woman-haters is a crime in itself.

I would also like to note that many people seem to be jumping to the conclusion that African women and maids are just easily bought, or will just put out and this one just didn't like the consequences. The suppositions people are making about this woman from Africa is a very subtle form of racism. I don't remark on racism all that often, but in this case I think calling attention to this is worthwhile. She's an employed widow, with a teenager. A "respectable" woman by most standards.

Originally posted by Aeons


Let him have his day in court. If there isn't sufficient evidence, the case will be found to be so.

I'm not so sure. So much about this stinks so far that if it is indeed a set-up on an international level (as opposed to just a set up by French political rivals) then the fix is in from the beginning. Especially if he 'kills himself' at Rikers or something.

I also find it hard to believe a 62 year old bureaucrat could overpower a woman half his age who does manual labor for a living, unless she's perhaps a tiny woman. If he was forcing his penis into her mouth, doesnt that imply he did all this with one hand? It sounds like she was present-minded enough to try and flee, was she unable to fight him off?

reply to post by incrediblelousminds


I think you know nothing about rape, you know less about power-control-sex males, and that you know less than nothing about female socialization and psychology.

And that you have a very warped view of older men.

Originally posted by PaganArchangel


This guy set himself up (untintentionally). He has a history of making sexual advances..but things aren't over here like they are in France. If it was indeed a set up, they used his own weakness against him.
If he was going to crap he should have done it in his own backyard where apparently this kind of thing is tolerated.

I'm a bit late following the thread, and this is perhaps way back there (I am catching up) but I strongly disagree with this!! He was already brought to court and had charges against him once for having sex with a subordinate, even though it was a concensual affair . I haven't percieved that the french are more tolerant of innappropriate sexual behavior. Otherwise the state wouldn't have brought charges against a man for an affair that did not include any rape, or underage factors, (or lying about it), or even any desire on the womans part to prosecute.

reply to post by Aeons


Perhaps i don't. But I think my points are valid, and not necessarily worth discounting out-of-hand because of what you suspect i do or dont know.

As far as the politics of rape go, dont you find it a bit unprecedented that the NYC police responded so quickly and vigilantly to a rape allegation? I have more than one close female friend who suffered both the indignity of a rape, as well as the indignity of not being taken seriously by the police in a timely manner. Perhaps its different in NYC, but I doubt it.

Also, dont you agree there are several odd anomalies with this story, or is the implication i should i never question a rape allegation out of respect for the alleged victim?

ETA: as for me having a 'very warped view of old men'?, can you clarify what that means? That I dont know a lot of 60 year olds who could out run and overpower a woman thirty years their junior?

I understand that there are several layers of power in the alleged attacks and that the alleged victim might have felt powerless in the situation, but considering she DID struggle and DID try and run, it seems to imply to me that she wasn't exactly frightened into submission.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Aeons


Let him have his day in court. If there isn't sufficient evidence, the case will be found to be so.

I'm not so sure. So much about this stinks so far that if it is indeed a set-up on an international level (as opposed to just a set up by French political rivals) then the fix is in from the beginning. Especially if he 'kills himself' at Rikers or something.

I also find it hard to believe a 62 year old bureaucrat could overpower a woman half his age who does manual labor for a living, unless she's perhaps a tiny woman. If he was forcing his penis into her mouth, doesnt that imply he did all this with one hand? It sounds like she was present-minded enough to try and flee, was she unable to fight him off?

The Ghanaian maid was described as 5' 7" -- not a tiny woman. DSK does not look tall.

On Hannity tonight (I rarely watch him), I heard him say DSK was charged with "attempted rape" -- not rape as I had thought. It's curious to me that Hannity & his two guests were talking about this case as if it's already been proven that DSK is guilty as charged. Strange.

Originally posted by AuranVector


On Hannity tonight (I rarely watch him), I heard him say DSK was charged with "attempted rape" -- not rape as I had thought.

Yeah, I've read several conflicting reports, some saying he raped her, some saying he tried to rape her. Hard to get the story straight.

It's curious to me that Hannity & his two guests were talking about this case as if it's already been proven that DSK is guilty as charged. Strange.

Why is that curious? All of FOX's coverage of this that I've seen so far has been using incredibly load language to describe DSK and the case. In the very least, i suspect it's because he is a "Socialist" (with a capital S even!), and they like to whip up the anti-socialist frenzy at every opportunity.

But honestly, when they are that obvious with their wording, it only makes it all stink of a set up even more.

read the loaded language in this piece:

www.foxnews.com...

I think it's also odd that the MSM has repeatedly pointed out that he had a (consensual) extramarital affair, as though that makes him some kind of a pervert.

As for the reporter who has come forward with allegations..... 10 years later? Her name is now known around the world. That's good news for her career.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by AuranVector


On Hannity tonight (I rarely watch him), I heard him say DSK was charged with "attempted rape" -- not rape as I had thought.

Yeah, I've read several conflicting reports, some saying he raped her, some saying he tired to rape her. ard to get the story straight.

It's curious to me that Hannity & his two guests were talking about this case as if it's already been proven that DSK is guilty as charged. Strange.

Why is that curious? All of FOX's coverage of this that I've seen so far has been using incredibly load language to describe DSK and the case. In the very least, i suspect it's because he is a "Socialist" (with a capital S even!), and they like to whip up the anti-socialist frenzy at every opportunity.

But honestly, when they are that obvious with their wording, it only makes it all stink of a set up even more.

read the loaded language in this piece:

www.foxnews.com...

I just read the Fox article. I'm not a fan of Socialism either, but it's wrong to assume someone is guilty of attempted rape (on a national TV news show) just because one doesn't like his politics.

This underlines how biased the MSM is.

I'm curious to know why he was staying in a hotel when he has his own apartment in Manhattan.

There is something fishy there........

I have the immediate knee jerk reaction of judging this guy guilty myself, because I don't like him and I hope to god the socialists do not get the presidency through anyone. But I can't allow that to cloud my objectivity!

Is it possible he took the room because a meeting for a sexual encounter had been planned, by him or by someone else?

Though I can perhaps consider the possibility of a spontaneous acting out in a rape, concerning someone in the public eye (losing control) I find it hard to consider they would carefully plan out an attck of that sort- or at least if they did, they'd plan it out more carefully than this- such powerful predators would have arranged to have the victim taken out of the picture imediately afterwards.

So it makes me wonder if he hadn't had a sexual meeting planned with a hooker, or a "friend of a friend" type of thing, and either he was set up, or mistook that woman for the one he was expecting?

I don't know, I am brainstorming on why he was in that hotel in the first place.....

I have been reading on Sky news this morning in the UK that the US government want to put a White House advisor in as head of the IMF....

Something definitely seems wrong with that bearing in mind the IMF lends money to governments and the US is screwed as we speak......hmmmmmm

Originally posted by Gregandgemma
I have been reading on Sky news this morning in the UK that the US government want to put a White House advisor in as head of the IMF....

Something definitely seems wrong with that bearing in mind the IMF lends money to governments and the US is screwed as we speak......hmmmmmm

Will not happen. The World Bank always has a real American 'president'

IMF will always have a European 'president'

BRUSSELS - If the Frenchman Dominique Strauss-Kahn leave as head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), he should be followed up by a European

reply to post by Gregandgemma


I might happen after all . We in Europe prefer a European as head of the IMF, as the Americans prefer an American as head of the world bank.

But indeed they are pushing too install somebody else. So yes this is fishy.

I have absolutely no problem believing that the head of an institution that routinely rapes entire countries wouldn't think twice about taking what he wants from a lowly little maid.

However, I came across an article that implies that he might have been exposed to a little more than some non-consensual booty love.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn may have more to worry about than a possible prison sentence. The IMF chief's alleged sex-assault victim lives in a Bronx apartment rented exclusively for adults with HIV or AIDS, The Post has learned. The hotel maid, a West African immigrant, has occupied the fourth-floor High Bridge pad with her 15-year-old daughter since January -- and before that, lived in another Bronx apartment set aside by Harlem Community AIDS United strictly for adults with the virus and their families. Read more: www.nypost.com...

From NY Post

I'm not going to lie reading that made me happy.

A link to an article about DSK's accuser Nafissatou Diallo is pasted below.

She is a Muslim single mother who is raising her 15-year-old daughter in the Bronx. She is from the West African nation of Guinea, and indicates that she is in NYC on a work visa.

As this piece is written in French, if anyone could offer a synopsis of its details, it would be helpful.

www.slate.fr...

According to Wikipedia, Guinea is one of the poorest countries in the world. Here is an interesting little factoid about the IMF's relationship with Guinea:

"In 2002, the IMF suspended Guinea's Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility (PRGF) because the government failed to meet key performance criteria. In reviews of the PRGF, the World Bank noted that Guinea had met its spending goals in targeted social priority sectors. However, spending in other areas, primarily defense, contributed to a significant fiscal deficit. The loss of IMF funds forced the government to finance its debts through Central Bank advances. The pursuit of unsound economic policies has resulted in imbalances that are proving hard to correct. Under then-Prime Minister Diallo, the government began a rigorous reform agenda in December 2004 designed to return Guinea to a PRGF with the IMF."

Diallo must be a common surname as both DSK's accuser and the nation's former Prime Minister, who was involved in dealings with the IMF, share this name.

Here's more, on China's relationship with Guinea:

"On 13 October 2009, Guinean Mines Minister Mahmoud Thiam announced that the Chinese International Fund would invest more than $7bn (£4.5bn) in infrastructure. In return, he said the firm would be a "strategic partner" in all mining projects in the mineral-rich nation. He said the firm would help build ports, railway lines, power plants, low-cost housing and even a new administrative centre in the capital, Conakry. However, analysts say that the timing of the deal is likely to stir controversy, as the legitimacy of Guinea's government is under question."

en.wikipedia.org...

It is also interesting to note that early reports indicated the accuser was from Ghana. Today's reports indicate she is from Guinea.

It illustrates that we can't always count on the accuracy of information, even in a top news story.

From my perspective, the most interesting thing in today's developments is that the accuser shares the same surname as a former Prime Minister of Guinea who had dealings with the IMF.

reply to post by Reaching


Yes, its just more empty information that can be used to further the theory that he is being set up. Im sure it is interesting since that is the whole point of this thread.

The good news is that he hasn't resigned yet . I seem to remember comments of Obama saying we were u.s best dog. Oh the irony ; he's a good liar you gotta admit (read my previous posts).
The perfect set-up mark my words