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Teacher 'Refused To Hang Child's Drawing Of U.S. Flag Because It Would Offend Jehovah's Witness S

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by here4awhile
lol at the ridiculousness this country is becoming...jehovah's is such a boring religion by the way...they don't celebrate ANYTHING not even birthdays....so so so boring and bland


Ya...they are actually the conspiracy theorists of religion....they deny ignorance.

Research yourself to see if any holiday originates with the bible or some occult pagan roman sun worshiping origin.




posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Ok this is wrong, did the teacher ask both the child or his parents if that flag would offend their JW child. I highly doubt it. This story is related to this event it comes from JW yearbook published by the Watchtower society and gives you the real scoop on how JWs actually feel about the flags of nations.


From Canada comes an experience that demonstrates the importance of parents’ educating their children in Bible principles, not just rules, as well as in the intelligent application of such principles. When Terra was only 11 years of age and not yet baptized, she was unexpectedly put to the test by a teacher. At the time, Terra was the only Witness student in the entire school. One morning during class, Terra noticed that the teacher took a fellow student out of the classroom for a few moments. Shortly thereafter the teacher quietly asked Terra to accompany him to the principal’s office. No reason was given at the time. However, upon arriving in the principal’s office, Terra noticed that the Canadian flag was draped across the principal’s desk. There were just the three of them in the office: Terra, her teacher, and her principal. The teacher then instructed Terra to spit on the Canadian flag. He suggested that since Terra did not sing the national anthem or salute the flag, there was no reason why she should not spit on the flag when ordered to do so. While greatly surprised by this order, Terra refused to desecrate this symbol of the country. She explained that Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the flag, although they do not worship it. When the teacher saw that Terra was firm in her position, the two of them returned to the classroom. Back in the classroom, the teacher announced that he had just conducted an experiment. He had taken two students one at a time to the principal’s office, instructing them to spit on the flag. Although the first student did participate in patriotic ceremonies, she spit on the flag when ordered to do so. In contrast, as the teacher explained, Terra had very high principles. Even though she does not sing the anthem or salute the flag, she refused to dishonor the flag in this way. The teacher said that Terra was the one who showed proper respect.


That teacher should have been fired for this, but it revealed the true nature of respect JW's have for what other people hold dear, in this particular case the national flag.

One of three things is happening here:

1) The teacher is misinformed, and decided to be ultra politically correct in the sensitive climate that exists.
2) Assumptions were made by the boy and his father creating an issue.
3) Somebody is lying to make trouble.
edit on 15-5-2011 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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LOL, Seriously.. Do not buy into this crap. The kid would not have been offended to have a picture of the US Flag hung on the wall. Just because JW's don't WORSHIP the flag by saluting it and they aren't nationalistic, doesn't mean the kid would automatically be offended if he saw it. If that was the case you wouldn't be able to walk outside in public for fear of coming into contact with the national flag. If the teacher gave this excuse she obviously doesn't understand anything about JW's.

This is nothing more than a propaganda, smear job to get you to think negatively about JW's. Don't fall for it people.. You're smarter than that.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Just another thread who's main purpose is to bash teachers.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by WeRpeons
Just another thread who's main purpose is to bash teachers.


I'll have to disagree with this a bit.

I don't believe the threads purpose was to bash teachers, although for some, it ended up becoming that.

I do believe though, that some put their critical thinking skills away to opt for the quick jump onto the "ohhh the poor oppressed people" campaign.

I get the impression that burntheships truly believed there was an abortion of justice when creating the thread, but some of us surely don't see it that way.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by WeRpeons
Just another thread who's main purpose is to bash teachers.


Just another thread who's main purpose is to bash a minority group like Jehovah's Witnesses.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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I am thinking we are not getting the entire story here. If your religion is offended by the American flag then it is probably time to either get a new religion, or find a new country to reside in.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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My supposition is that the one who was offended by the American flag was the teacher.

The stupidity of today's crop of PC oriented teachers is amazing.

I've got an idea! Why not forget all the PC BS and teach the kids how to read and write.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel
My supposition is that the one who was offended by the American flag was the teacher.


Really? I've got to know what series of events has led you to believe that this has any basis in truth at all?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by alphabetaone

Originally posted by romanmel
My supposition is that the one who was offended by the American flag was the teacher.


Really? I've got to know what series of events has led you to believe that this has any basis in truth at all?


I worked in a non-teacher role in a school system for several years.

My experience is that many teachers lie when caught in a situation involving personal preferences in the classroom.
edit on 15-5-2011 by romanmel because: correction to answer



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel
My supposition is that the one who was offended by the American flag was the teacher.

The stupidity of today's crop of PC oriented teachers is amazing.



Well, that's the thing about 'suppositions'. They are ASSUMPTIONS, which are not based on fact, but on what someone ASSUMES to be true.

If you actually READ the article and based your opinion on information, and not assumption, you would see that there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to support your 'supposition'.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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What does that have to do with the information presented in the article? You hate young people? You hate teachers?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by romanmel
 


What does that have to do with the information presented in the article? You hate young people? You hate teachers?



A voiced dissent from popular opinion, or even the minority opinion does not equal hate.
Your only ASSUMING there could be hate in a dissenting opinion.

In fact your asumptions are as clear as the next persons, what makes you think your right?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Blue_Jay33


That teacher should have been fired for this, but it revealed the true nature of respect JW's have for what other people hold dear, in this particular case the national flag.


Yeah, see the problem with that theory of yours is the only person making that claim is the father (and, yes, his son is repeating what the father says). So calling for the firing of a teacher based on the word of a father and son who clearly admit to having an ongoing 'misunderstanding' with the JH kid seems a bit premature.


One of three things is happening here:

1) The teacher is misinformed, and decided to be ultra politically correct in the sensitive climate that exists.
2) Assumptions were made by the boy and his father creating an issue.
3) Somebody is lying to make trouble.
edit on 15-5-2011 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)


Yeah, i'm going with number three. Little Frankie was causing trouble and asking for special permission for something none of the other kids were doing. When he was told no, he made up a story abotu the JH kid, and his paranoid, ultra-patriot father called up the ACLU.
edit on 15-5-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by romanmel
 


What does that have to do with the information presented in the article? You hate young people? You hate teachers?



A voiced dissent from popular opinion, or even the minority opinion does not equal hate.
Your only ASSUMING there could be hate in a dissenting opinion.

In fact your asumptions are as clear as the next persons, what makes you think your right?


Yeah, well, the funny thing is, he changed his post from soemthing about how all teachers are stupid to the current text, making my response nonsensical. he edited it after i responded.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by alphabetaone

Originally posted by WeRpeons
Just another thread who's main purpose is to bash teachers.


I'll have to disagree with this a bit.

I don't believe the threads purpose was to bash teachers, although for some, it ended up becoming that.

I do believe though, that some put their critical thinking skills away to opt for the quick jump onto the "ohhh the poor oppressed people" campaign.

I get the impression that burntheships truly believed there was an abortion of justice when creating the thread, but some of us surely don't see it that way.



i guess you missed his bashing of 'teachers unions' and 'socialists' around page two, then.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel

My experience is that many teachers lie when caught in a situation involving personal preferences in the classroom.


That may well be true, but I would be willing to put down good money, that kids do this far more often than any adult ever will.

So, if I were apt to making a lot of suppositions, it would be to suppose that a kid was more likely to lie or embellish upon the events that took place before the teacher would; they have a lot less to lose.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by romanmel
 


What does that have to do with the information presented in the article? You hate young people? You hate teachers?


I hate seeing kids graduate from public schools who cannot read and write above a third grade level, because teachers impose their PC ideas upon those they are charged with educating.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel

Originally posted by alphabetaone

Originally posted by romanmel
My supposition is that the one who was offended by the American flag was the teacher.


Really? I've got to know what series of events has led you to believe that this has any basis in truth at all?


I worked in a non-teacher role in a school system for several years.

My experience is that many teachers lie when caught in a situation involving personal preferences in the classroom.
edit on 15-5-2011 by romanmel because: correction to answer


Why did you change your post from the one saying that, in your experience all teachers are stupid and start their sentences with 'dude'?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

i guess you missed his bashing of 'teachers unions' and 'socialists' around page two, then.


No, I didn't miss it at all to be honest.

I simply considered it a result of the content and over emotion. Not that the thread was started as a MEANS to bash teachers, but that it simply ended up becoming it.



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