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Bill Clinton Muses About Creating Internet Agency to Combat Falsehoods

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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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This is already in effect. I'm not a paranoid person but COINTELPRO has been used against American citizens for a long time. This is just another step in the ongoing process of eroding our constitution. I wonder how many sheeple would actually support these "thought police" with Bill Clinton leading the charge?




posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Maybe they could name the website something like....

The meaning of is is.gov.

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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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bill calling the kettle black

throwing stones at glass houses seems to be his favorite theme.
he'd be wise to just keep his mouth shut and enjoy his retirement before someone sticks their foot in it

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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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The problem with the Internet is the fact that the way it's now built out it's a server/ client structure. From your computer you send a request to the server hosting awebsite.com. That server locates the info and sends it back to you.

It's the Many (Client PCs) communicating with One(The Server). This allows TPTB to scrub websites easily because the People contact one source of info.

Whereas, if the Internet was Many to Many structure, when you request a website several copies are sent to you from several other Clients. Think kind of a Torrent.

This would keep info classified as "Misinformation" from being blacked- out with a e-Sharpie.

...for the Record Japan just launched SAME PROGRAM in their country and if all it took was one (VERY LARGE) Disaster to distract the public to allow such a silly law to take place. Think what it will take here.

Ex: 9/11 brought us the Patriot Act



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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What if there was a machine that crawled the web and extracted every 'fact' it was able to understand. Then, the machine would compare against a large database such as Wikipedia or something similar. It would tally each site and present evidence for its judgement based on the host database. The code, and the host database, would be open source.

I would trust such a system and might even welcome it if the host database 'wikipedia' was open and corroborative in nature.

This might be something similar to an open source watson.
en.wikipedia.org...(computer)
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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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I guess it comes to the point that the elite in power not longer can keep the public from been dumb and stupid, they try that already with the education system, now that people are getting "educated" in the INTERNET and questioning the status quo, what better way than feed filtered propaganda but through the INTERNET.

Combat falsehoods and feed only what the government wants to spoon fed, control of the information in the nation just another way of dictatorship.

Still many have not clue what is been going on in this nation, one rule at a time, one law at a time.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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I don't see any big deal with creating an agency to debunk internet falsehoods, so long as they don't attempt to silence those creating the falsehoods.

People have the right to publish lies, but people also have a right to read the truth.

What's the saying..."everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts"...so long as facts are used to debunk internet generated falsehoods, then nobody should have a problem with this.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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This is only news because Clinton is saying it.

Cass Sunstein said the same thing year or so ago.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Yeah and it would be called Nationalpropagandanetwork.com. Page right out of Orwells 1984.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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This is already in effect. I'm not a paranoid person but COINTELPRO has been used against American citizens for a long time. This is just another step in the ongoing process of eroding our constitution. I wonder how many sheeple would actually support these "thought police" with Bill Clinton leading the charge?


Where is this already in effect? And how would a website dedicated to debunking falsehoods erode our Constitution?

I see absolutely no problem with such a website. I do not want it subsidized by the government, however. And I don't know the specifics of Clinton's proposal: would it apply only to malicious rumors made about the government, or could it apply to anyone.

You have to admit, some people post some outrageous bs on the net, with no repercussions. They often hide behind an ANON moniker. That sucks, and people shouldn't do it, but some people never grow up. So what defense does the 'victim' have?



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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What a joke..(Head man) Hippie,Billy wants his 'corrupt' Socialist Gov. to have a "TRUTH' internet site...What's wrong with their "Ministry of Propaganda" at www.USA.gov....don't they tell the truth?



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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I pose a question to you. Would it just be debunking falsehoods or would it be labeling anything that doesn't fit their agenda false?



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
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I pose a question to you. Would it just be debunking falsehoods or would it be labeling anything that doesn't fit their agenda false?


This is exactly what I'm worried about. Well, I'm not worried, so let's replace the word "worried" with something less drastic.

But yeah, if this potential agency's purpose would just be debunking falsehoods: then what would be the point?

Most of the ridiculous false things posted online are believed to be just that: false. So, shouldn't people be intelligent enough themselves to differentiate between what is false and what is true?

That is what makes me think that this potential agency would only be put into place to get rid of ideas that the government feels is encroaching on it's power over the people.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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this does mention speaking of the end and seems to be associated with unjustified debt schemes used as a type of persecution-


Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay!
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them? Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.-Abacuk2


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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Hello Bill?!??

ahem..

www.america.gov...






try clocking on outer space and clicking any of the links in that box they have all been suspended lol.

basically what they are saying is every topic on that site is true.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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more smoke & mirrors from those who are expert at it. the American public is fed a steady stream of the absurd by the clowns of Washington DC, its more fun for them than doing actual work.

look at how often our politician clown friends drop something in the media to piss off legitimate owners and supporters of firearms. that one is a weekly must-have. they love to piss off NRA folks.

it almost seems like our government is like organized crime used to be. organized crime finally caught on that it is sometimes easier to just run legitimate business after all is said and done. but i doubt our government will ever catch on that honesty is the best policy.

damn shame, because these actions further retards mankinds progress. we're knee-deep in bullshirt that is intended to infuriate or instill fear. it never ends.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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A worthy expidenture of taxpayer money?

That should be anoying more people- the fact that they will be using taxpayer money to finance their propaganda machine. I believe the government is already diong this, but if TPTB demand this to be implemented, do it with the billions you have already stolen from the people. What a joke, this seems more sutable for communist East Germany back in the 80's not America. Before the cold war and all these percieved threats that they blast at Americans this would have people revolting in the streets.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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I see it as a step to total information control and censorship. Anyone with a differing opinion that theirs would be made to be a nut and basically silenced. I don't like the idea of these "Internet Thought Police" at all, and I feel the Government should be spending more time on real issues and not this crap. People can discern the truth for themselves.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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If I remember my maths, it was a long time ago, the double negative should make a positive so at least we should get some positive bs.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Pissed a little, Bill?
Please contact the inventor of Information Super Highway (aka internet)...Al Gore!



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