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Lakin declined to respond to military orders because he was denied answers to his questions about the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. He then was court-martialed after the judge decided she would not allow him to present his arguments or his witnesses.
Questions during the brief interview were restricted by Lakin's advisers because of the pending status of an appeal of the military court's decision, as well as a request for clemency that remains unaddressed.
His release came after a standard reduction in time for good behavior.
No, he didn’t. He went to prison because he disobeyed orders from his CO.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
LTC Terry Lakin, the American Hero who went to military prison over the Obama birth certificate issue
For more than two years Terry tried to get confirmation of the Commander in Chief's eligibility. He followed every proper procedural means at his disposal as a senior officer and Army doctor. In late 2010 LTC Lakin chose to invite his own court martial with the hopes that the normal processes of legal discovery would provide some answers. Instead the court refused all requests for discovery. Nor did the court allow any witnesses. With no defense, Terry was found guilty of the charges resulting from his refusal to deploy.
I don’t know her, and have never come across other case decided by this judge. What I know, and my opinions of the ruling, are based on what she wrote in her ruling
Originally posted by Granite
Is the judge a good one?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Oh look! The shilltrolls are coming out early on this one. If Obama would have just produced his real BC in the first place early on, Terry wouldn't have had to serve the sentence over his convictions, and mine, that Obama is a lying sack of usurper.
You forgot the courts. Don’t forget the courts! They are in on it as well. Oh, and the reptilians.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Yeah well obviously what the Constitution did not provide for or ever expect was nearly the entire Congress, and the President, would all be conspiring together at once under an NWO agenda to execute the will of Rome and Israel.
The court can’t, and explained why. You should read the ruling of the judge, it’s quite detailed.
Where that judge erred was in the fact that her court should have recognized that the issue would never get prosecuted by the Congress, and on that basis made an exception to proceed to discovery.
12. Notwithstanding this distinction, the issues of whether President Obama is a natural born citizen and whether he is qualified under the Constitution to serve as President are textually demonstrable constitutional commitments of the issues to a coordinate political department. Article 1, Sections 1 and 3 of the Constitution give Congress the sole power of impeachment and removal of a serving President. The Court further concludes that it is impossible for this Article 1 Court to undertake independent resolution of whether President Obama is a natural born citizen or is qualified under the Constitution to hold office without expressing lack of respect due coordinate branches of government.
Sure he did. Lakin’s problem was that his ‘case’ rested on his suspicions and unfounded accusations of the President being ineligible to hold office — not credible or legal reasons to compel discovery of such a matter — and that they were, ultimately, completely irrelevant to the charges.
Because in this case, she should have seen that Terry had no other chance to prove his case.
14. The merits of whether President Obama is a natural born citizen and whether he is qualified under the Constitution to hold office are not logically relevant under [Military Rules of Evidence] MRE 401 for the interlocutory question, the merits portion of the trial, or the sentencing portion of the trial. Even if they were logically relevant, in light of the conclusion of the Court that the above Baker factors exist, judicial review of these issues by this court-martial is precluded by the political question doctrine. Thus, even if logically relevant under MRE 401, the issues are not legally relevant under MRE 402 and not admissible under MRE 403.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
LTC Terry Lakin, the American Hero
Originally posted by Granite
reply to post by aptness
Are you calling him a traitor and a coward?
His rank speaks loudly of his abilities and charactor.
What is your rank?
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Oh look! The shilltrolls are coming out early on this one. If Obama would have just produced his real BC in the first place early on, Terry wouldn't have had to serve the sentence over his convictions, and mine, that Obama is a lying sack of usurper.
No.
If he hadn't disobeyed orders, then he wouldn't have been court martialed.
Seriously, this was a ridiculous defense and blaming his prison sentence on Obama not releasing his BC earlier is a real stretch.
The fact is, this guy let his political views get the better of him, and he made a really stupid decision. Then he paid the price for that decision. He elected to serve in the military, so he elected to face the consequences of going AWOL.
I wonder how he feels, now that he's served months in prison only to find out that Obama has released his certificate
Originally posted by drwizardphd
is a confirmed US citizen. I bet he regrets his actions, even if he says he doesn't.
Only two certificates have been released by Obama and Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth — aka the short form — Obama presented months before the election, and now a certified copy of the Department of Health’s internal certificate of live birth record.
Originally posted by 46ACE
And it appears completely legitimate.....right? Theres' absolutely no indication of "funny business" going on with that second(?) or was it the third(?) certificate?
He did. And he didn’t even have to.
Roadworn tiring old defense"he showed it!".
It was the only thing in the case the court could address.
Lakin was tried for "missing a movement"; technically the judge was probably withinher legal boundries to force the trial to whether he missed his assigned movement"