It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
•Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery
In 1966 or 1967 Ann Dunham married Indonesian Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo (1936-1987),..... Soetoro then adopted Obama, whose name was changed to Barry Soetoro...... which made Obama an Indonesian citizen, according to Indonesian law. Because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Obama thus lost his U.S. citizenship when he became an Indonesian citizen, in or about 1967. At that point Obama also ceased to be a Kenyan citizen, according to both Indonesian and Kenyan law.
Indonesia’s policy of not allowing dual citizenship must be respected by the United States in accordance with the Hague Convention of 1930. Further, Obama, as a child, was not required to personally renounce his U.S. citizenship – that would have been an automatic result of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
Run you better Run
Where did you read that these records have a different standard for the president of the United States? I would like to read that too.
Originally posted by Runaway1977
I thought you yanks were really big on your right to privacy. Then you list a bunch of private documents and complain you have not seen them? Some are even made up. Adoption papers not released? What adoption papers? I hear Obama has yet to release is Honorary Starfleet Academy records as well. You guys almost make me weep for your country. First I see a thread asking to bring back the Hoover black lists and communist hunts, now private papers including kindergarten records? must be demanded for the president of the United States? Did anyone ask for any of these things before the last election or is this all just really sore losing? I really almost do not recognize what used to be such an amazingly free and tolerant place.
When I envision the world John McCain would have presided over, I wake up in a cold sweat.
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
In 1966 or 1967 Ann Dunham married Indonesian Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo (1936-1987),..... Soetoro then adopted Obama, whose name was changed to Barry Soetoro...... which made Obama an Indonesian citizen, according to Indonesian law. Because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Obama thus lost his U.S. citizenship when he became an Indonesian citizen, in or about 1967. At that point Obama also ceased to be a Kenyan citizen, according to both Indonesian and Kenyan law.
Indonesia’s policy of not allowing dual citizenship must be respected by the United States in accordance with the Hague Convention of 1930. Further, Obama, as a child, was not required to personally renounce his U.S. citizenship – that would have been an automatic result of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.
Originally posted by NMTruthOut
BOMBSHELL...CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OBAMA NOT ELIGIBLE...
Offer Upgrade
User ID: 1383147
United States
5/14/2011 11:52 AM
Edit Your Post
Add to Favorites
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
BOMBSHELL...Conclusive Proof Obama NOT ELIGIBLE
Suggest Pin Quote [+]
Northern Michigan Truth Out is a website ran by my friend with myself helping. My friend, Brandon, has done EXTENSIVE research and put out an article showing THAT NO MATTER WHAT Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE to be president of the United States. This is a MUST READ!
Introduction:
Obama Nation is an investigation relating to the constitutional requirements for the presidency of the United States Republic. This report will show substantial evidence supporting the claims that President Barack Hussein Obama is currently serving office unconstitutionally. This report will show why Congress should start impeachment trails against Obama for his acts of treason against this country.
Constitutional Requirements for President:
Section I of Article II of the United States Constitution: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident with the United States.
This investigation will show three different independent case scenarios ranging from all three different sides of constitutional eligibility arguments. These three scenarios will show that President Barack Hussein Obama isn’t legally able to obtain the office of presidency. This news article posted by the N.M.T.O. staff will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that in all three cases of constitutional interpretation, Mr. Obama should be removed immediately from office due to his unconstitutional status he holds.
CHAPTER ONE: (Section I of Article II Requires Only an Individual to be Birthed on U.S. Soil?)
CASE SCENARIO NUMBER 1:
In order for anyone individual to run for the oval-office, he/she must be the minimum age of 35 and have been a resident for at least 14 years of the United States, while being born on United States soil? This argument is heavily supported by the ongoing BIRTHER MOVEMENT. This movement is desperately trying to prove that President Obama is not “Truly” born in his birth place of Hawaii as he claims. Nationwide birther individuals claim he was born in his father’s country of Kenya. These individuals support the belief that Section I of Article II requires a person to be born within the confinements of the States and/or at least U.S. territory minimum (Example: Japanese U.S. Base and etc.). If Obama was however truly born in Kenya as the ‘birthers’ claim, then Mr. Obama knowingly has committed treason against our constitutional republic.
The problem however with the BIRTHER MOVEMENT, is that they and society at large, hasn’t looked into the legal definition relating to “NATURAL” status. This article will now brake down the official definition of “NATURAL” and what is required for a citizen to be eligible for presidency. 1. Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. 2. Those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. 3. The country of the father is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens. 4. In order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only that place of his birth, and not his country. We must now also look up the definition of the word “NATIVE”: The word native is described as – geographical. A primary example of this is Indians. When our founders of this country moved here, American Indians already had birth rights over our territory (land). That is why our society categorizes Indians under the phrase “American Indians”. Their native land (geographical) is the U.S. shores. Thus the American people need to come to the realization that any individual born on United States soil is a “native” automatically by legal definition. We need to also understand that this doesn’t give the same emphasis to being a “NATURAL citizen”. A natural born citizen child is one who is born of parents that are citizens of America. Those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their inheritance (rights). These are the terms of being an automatic natural citizen. The A Voice in the Wilderness has a good article explaining further in depth this argument. Link: [link to a-voice.org] This V.W. article also touches on the issues relating to biblical terms for Christian citizenship in Gods Kingdom (Heaven). The article goes on to tell us that a person’s father gives him his natural birthright citizenship under the “Law of Nations”.
According to the Law of Nations which is predated to the founding legal principles of our constitutional society, the founders of this republic, made it unmistakably clear, that the father granted rights to his children within our territory. The founding fathers made this a key principle for one main rational reason. They understood the threat of monarchy power and how a monarch could potentially over-throw the Constitutional American government. Without this added protection of Section I of Article II pertaining to our U.S. Constitution, the sovereignty of the United States could be at risk. The founders feared the possible threat that a monarch royalty could bare a child with a female U.S. citizen, who then, as the child came of age, could someday help grow his fathers kingdom (empire). This threat is a highly probable possibility considering that this nations fathers lived under the British tyrannical crown of England. Historically former kings would have their children reproduced their offspring’s to other nations. This international entanglement (allegiances) would help grow empires and inter-twine their headship over the general common folks of societies.
Now since we have looked into this side of interpretation to this constitutional crisis, this would then disqualify President Barack Hussein Obama from the oval-office. Barack’s father the 1st, was not a natural born citizen, but was a native citizen of Kenya. At the time of Barack’s birth, Kenya was under the legal ownership of the British parliament. This pickle Obama has put this nation under is indeed the biggest constitutional disaster this country has ever had. Could you imagine the nationwide epidemic of a national cry of racism this would bring upon our central government if Congress would start an impeachment trail on our first dark skin American president? I firmly believe this backlash would most likely result in a civil war regardless of the true nature of the constitutional interpretation of our supreme law (The United States Constitution). But to get back to this point of this news article, about those definitions relating to “NATURAL & NATIVE” terms, we should have then come to the logical conclusion that one’s birth is inherited by his/her’s father. We then understand that Obama is not able to legally be our president. This would even conclude the fact that it wouldn’t matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or on the planet of Mars. The problem with the birther movement is it is asking the wrong question. Although an important question. (Where’s the birth certificate?), birthers should be asking what is the legal definition to be a “natural” citizen?
Since we have looked into this side of interpretation to this constitutional crisis, while understanding the Laws of Nations, showing that a child inherits its rights from his father, could the general PRO-Obama-Knights argue Barack’s constitutional eligibility since his mother was an American citizen by birth right herself?
The Answer is NO…But to help stop the feminist outcry of sexism pertaining to this news article, we should mention clearly that Obama’s mother, although 18 when she labored our president’s birth, could “NOT STATUTORILY CONFER NATURAL BORN” status LEGALLY, even though she could marry and enlist into our military. Why you might question (Huh). Simply because she could NOT VOTE at the time. In the 1960’s a person couldn’t vote until the minimum age of 21.
READ REMAINDER
[link to nmto.org]
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
Obama’s Sealed Background Documentation
This data originally garnered from TheObamaFile.com.
Updated: 07/07/09
WorldNetDaily’s “Where have all his records gone?” posting further elaborates on the following:
•Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — Lawyers fees — greater than $1,000,000 — birth certificate — $15. - JUST RELEASED SO SORRY
•Certification of Live Birth — Released – Counterfeit — Case and Affidavits - Is legal so don't try to go there.
•Admitted British citizenship at birth — Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com - DENIED VIA FIGHT THE SMEARS
•Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery - The local paper has it on microfilm.
•Hospital of birth — Kapi’olani Medical Center won’t confirm Obama’s birth assertion; sister claims a different hospital -
•Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released - NOT REQUIRED
•Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
•Kindergarten records – Records lost (this is a big one — see here — read two frames) - CLASSIFIED AS APART OF YOUR JUVENILE FILE
•Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released - NOT REQUIRED
•Soetoro adoption records — Not released - DOES NOT EXIST!
•Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
•Punahou School records — Not released - NOT REQUIRED
•Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
•Selective Service Registration — Released – Counterfeit — Document Locator Number update — another FOIA request - DOES EXIST
•Occidental College records — Not released - NOT REQUIRED
•Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
•Columbia College records — Not released - NOT REQUIRED
•Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
•Harvard College records — Not released - NOT A REQUIREMENT
•Harvard Law Review articles — None - NOT A REQUIREMENT
•Illinois Bar Records — Not released. - NOT A REQUIREMENT
•Baptism certificate — None - SINCE WHEN WAS THIS REQUIRED?
•Medical records — Not released - NOT A REQUIREMENT
•Illinois State Senate records — None
•Illinois State Senate schedule — GO ON THE WEB
•Law practice client list — Not released - CLASSIFIED TO PROTECT ATTORNEY-CLIENT CONFIDENTIALITY
•University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
www.therightsideoflife.com... URL for further links.
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
There is only one real issue here: as per the original intention of the founding fathers - does Obama have divided loyalties?
The answer is a resounding yes! - he is not fit to be president, fortunately he is also technicaly inelligable as well!