Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by fleabit
That would be awesome if you could release something.
Oh, I would never ask anyone to do anything to jeopardize their job.
Can I ask which report it was you did see?
And thanks for a nice response, it's really appreciated.
The reports are technical and rather boring, to be honest, at least the lab reports. It's all the levels of all the chemicals, metals etc. in the
groundwater, soil and so on. And I've talked with our chemists (one is a buddy of mine), and while I didn't ask them something like "So.. is someone
trying to poison us?", I've asked how accurate these samples are: ppm for what chemicals, metals etc., how many sources they get samples from, and
so on. From all the answers I've gotten, and from the data I've seen, it seems pretty clear to me that there is -no- chance of a widespread spraying
over major cities. Zero percent.. none at all.
Here is the first company that popped up when I did a search:
One of many environmental companies
That is not the company I work for.. just one of a LOT of companies that do that sort of thing. Check out what they do. Soil sampling and
characterization, site assessment, soil profiling, groundwater sampling, well monitoring, etc. I know we have a lot of competition. And then there
are labs that just test soil and water from companies like these. There is a LOT.. and I mean a lot of testing that goes on around cities, in parks,
landfills, wells, drinking water, you name it.
Why does it need to be thorough? And example of what happens if you don't:
Wayne soil processor faces more fines for lagging removal of
That's just the first example that popped up. I know our company stockpiles these sorts of reports, as it's a nice motivator for companies to do
remediation work. It's -very- expensive to not clean up.
Here is the other kicker... there is a ton of cleanup to do, because in the past, there were fewer laws by far regulating dumping, contamination, etc.
So there are a lot of sites that are doing cleanup now, especially and ironically, the military.
Also, when a site is checked, it's checked a rather long distance from the contamination point. For example, if we were cleaning up a site near a
factory, we would run water models (using software like XPSWMM), to see where all groundwater runoff goes. Then you check for contamination all along
that path as well. I've seen quite the complicated projects - we even have experts on all the wildlife, so they can access damage to the environment
as well. We even have huge freezers to store specimens from contaminated sites like from the BP spill - birds, fish, seals, even whales are studied
in great depth.
In other words, I think there is a lot of study of soil and water that happens that people don't realize or think about. And if wholesale spraying
was going on over cities, it -would- stand out. Because several of the key chemicals and metals checked for, are the ones chemtrailers say are being
sprayed, including barium and aluminum.
Why people dismiss all this testing baffles me. I'm more than willing to hear reasoning behind how this doesn't matter, if someone has a logical
response. But it's not like it's a huge conspiracy - it's companies trying to make a profit, working for companies who don't want to spend too much
money to clean up, getting results from multiple sources. The data just isn't there to support a mass-spraying effort by agencies
edit on 13-5-2011 by fleabit because: Text correction