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Originally posted by PinealGland
I would just like to say that it's highly unfortunate that people think
Originally posted by PinealGland
The global warming myth is dying
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Tecumte
Seems others are getting what I'm talking about.
The claims made about this textbook are disingenuous, it's that simple.
God, you guys are hilarious, this is a real text book with as I said a section on engineering the skies with a picture of a plane with the words particle air on the side, putting out a smokey plume that talks about using among other things a richer mixture to modify the atmosphere.
Originally posted by GringoViejo
reply to post by Tecumte
well there is a question mark at the end. isn't there?
I will humor you however.
From my source i guess you didn't bother to read:
The Modified Barium Swallow Study is a therapeutic diagnostic test jointly conducted by a speech-language pathologist and a radiologist to examine the oropharyngeal swallowing function, quantify the risk of aspiration and objectively determine which swallowing strategies and diet textures increase the efficiency and safety of the swallow. The test requires a patient to sit upright in a special chair that fits up against the radio graphic table or stand in place for approximately 10 minutes. No specific diet restrictions are necessary to prepare the patient prior to the test although, the speech-language pathologist may make specific recommendations such as NPO (nothing by mouth) or thickened liquids only, prior to the test to protect the patient from aspiration. A fluoroscopic video is recorded to detail the physiology and function of the oral and pharyngeal musculature during the swallow as the events occur very rapidly (i.e.1-2 sec.). The test starts with very small quantities (3ccs.5ccs.and 10ccs.) of thin and thickened liquid barium. If no aspiration is noted, the test systematically progresses to quantities and consistencies that would be typical during a meal. Aspiration is defined as food or liquid material passing through the vocal folds into the trachea. Care is taken to minimize the amount of aspiration. If aspiration is detected, therapeutic strategies are performed to eliminate aspiration and facilitate safe and efficient swallowing. The patient's response to aspirated materials (e.g. no cough, strong effective cough or weak nonproductive cough) is also an important diagnostic indicator that can be measured during this test. Not all patients that aspirate show symptoms at bedside. Patients that silently aspirate (i.e. no spontaneous cough response) can only be accurately diagnosed by completion of the Modified Barium Swallow test. Although not everyone that aspirates develops aspiration pneumonia, patients that are non-ambulatory, immunocompromised or have underlying pulmonary compromise are at highest risk of complications from aspiration.
sandhoffdisease.webs.com...
So, if it's supposedly poisoning us from on high, why aren't people wondering why some are actually made to swallow it for a medical procedure?
edit on 14-5-2011 by GringoViejo because: (no reason given)
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Symptoms of Barium Poisoning to Look For
When barium accumulates in the body, it usually affects the functions of the nervous system. Barium poisoning displays symptoms that are similar to flu, which is why it is not strange to find the condition misdiagnosed as flu. Common symptoms of barium poisoning include:
1. Muscle weakness and tremors
2. Difficulty in breathing
3. Stomach irritations accompanied by diarrhea
4. Anxiety
5. Cardiac irregularities such as abnormally high blood pressure and rapid heartbeat
6. Paralysis
Read more: www.testcountry.org...
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Tecumte
God, you guys are hilarious, this is a real text book with as I said a section on engineering the skies with a picture of a plane with the words particle air on the side, putting out a smokey plume that talks about using among other things a richer mixture to modify the atmosphere.
Rather than have us take your word for it, why don't you post a copy of what you're talking about?
Originally posted by Tecumte
the brilliant white light scattering properties so many of us see in these engineered trails (vs common vapor trails)
Originally posted by Tecumte
Rather than perpetually asking to be spoon fed, why don't you go back about 3 pages and at least make the small effort to see what was already posted by Chad who seems to have located the name of the book and commented on it. I have personally seen the book, my children when they were in the 7th grade brought the science book home and showed me the pcture of the happy little 'particle air' plane spewing out it's smokey looking trail to engineer the atmosphere.
Rather than perpetually asking to be spoon fed, why don't you go back about 3 pages and at least make the small effort to see what was already posted by Chad who seems to have located the name of the book and commented on it. I have personally seen the book, my children when they were in the 7th grade brought the science book home and showed me the pcture of the happy little 'particle air' plane spewing out it's smokey looking trail to engineer the atmosphere.
That said, I'm happily willing to pitch in for the cause, rent a heli or plane, sample the air, run independent chemical analysis on the control sets, get acknowledgment from the fuel suppliers that they are, in fact, using additives which are DESIGNED to cause chemical dispersal, and post all the findings accompanied by the acknowledgments here on ATS to put this issue to rest once and for all so that my opinion can come to pass as a reality from a basis of REAL fact finding and not youtube conjecture.
Originally posted by Tecumte
IMO there is enough evidence (of which bunktoids keep ignoring and continue to play dumb and ask for more over and over and over) that SUGGEST this science is now ocurring on a wide scale and with much more sophisticated methods than decades ago, in my humble OPINION.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Tecumte
Rather than perpetually asking to be spoon fed, why don't you go back about 3 pages and at least make the small effort to see what was already posted by Chad who seems to have located the name of the book and commented on it. I have personally seen the book, my children when they were in the 7th grade brought the science book home and showed me the pcture of the happy little 'particle air' plane spewing out it's smokey looking trail to engineer the atmosphere.
Ahhh, but chadwick also noted that you took that information completely out of context. Why are you not mentioning that part of the post?
Originally posted by Tecumte
EXCELLANT, that is what I have suggested all along, I have advocated nothing more than that what we are seeing, as my best OPINION on the matter is not some big grand *conspiracy* (though I don't rule out some OTHER types of open air testing may be ocurring, as they have been PROVEN to happen in the past) but is simply SCIENCE based weather modification (but still *classified*) that uses more sophisticted methods of seeding FOR clouds and into them than those of 50 years ago. It's disingenuous IMO to try and lump this SCIENCE of weather mod. of which we have so many patents, white papers, and proven attempts in the past to alter weather, into some kind of alien, planet x, etc. etc. mindset. I have no idea one way or the other on THOSE topics, and I don't try and ridicule people who have an interest in them, some day it may be shown those topics are valid as well, I just haven't spent the time to research them so I leave it OPEN, but I am fully convinced weather mod is happening it is only a queston of HOW MUCH and to what degree and as to what materials and methods are being used, rather than IF it is happening. IMO there is enough evidence (of which bunktoids keep ignoring and continue to play dumb and ask for more over and over and over) that SUGGEST this science is now ocurring on a wide scale and with much more sophisticated methods than decades ago, in my humble OPINION.
...7th grade brought the science book home and showed me the pcture of the happy little 'particle air' plane spewing out it's smokey looking trail to engineer the atmosphere.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Tecumte
IMO there is enough evidence (of which bunktoids keep ignoring and continue to play dumb and ask for more over and over and over) that SUGGEST this science is now ocurring on a wide scale and with much more sophisticated methods than decades ago, in my humble OPINION.
But that's the thing, friend. If it's your 'opinion', it isnt evidence. What EVIDENCE doe you bae your opinions on, and why do you reject any critique of whatever flimsy evidence you present?
Because, in regard to SCIENCE, peer-reviewed aggressive debunking is VERY MUCH part of the scientific process. Seeking out flimsy evidence to support your opinion is NOT science.
Originally posted by Tecumte
Chad offered no proof to support his conspiracy theory..
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Tecumte
EXCELLANT, that is what I have suggested all along, I have advocated nothing more than that what we are seeing, as my best OPINION on the matter is not some big grand *conspiracy* (though I don't rule out some OTHER types of open air testing may be ocurring, as they have been PROVEN to happen in the past) but is simply SCIENCE based weather modification (but still *classified*) that uses more sophisticted methods of seeding FOR clouds and into them than those of 50 years ago. It's disingenuous IMO to try and lump this SCIENCE of weather mod. of which we have so many patents, white papers, and proven attempts in the past to alter weather, into some kind of alien, planet x, etc. etc. mindset. I have no idea one way or the other on THOSE topics, and I don't try and ridicule people who have an interest in them, some day it may be shown those topics are valid as well, I just haven't spent the time to research them so I leave it OPEN, but I am fully convinced weather mod is happening it is only a queston of HOW MUCH and to what degree and as to what materials and methods are being used, rather than IF it is happening. IMO there is enough evidence (of which bunktoids keep ignoring and continue to play dumb and ask for more over and over and over) that SUGGEST this science is now ocurring on a wide scale and with much more sophisticated methods than decades ago, in my humble OPINION.
Let me clue you in to precisely the type of person I am. (I'm using this as a disclaimer to anything at all I may comment on).
I am a very literal person, I take linguistics at their core meanings and interpret them precisely. This does not mean I have an inability to read things in context, it simply means that when it comes to making a decision, I go to literal mode.
Now, in this case I will say you have me somewhat confused...because of what I've just said, I thought we talking about chemtrails and a grand design to disperse chemicals (over the population) for whatever the designed purposes nefarious schemes are. I hadn't thought that weather modification (or testing) was in the equation. Even at the highest levels, weather TESTING and attempts at modification via seeding has never been at issue as far as I know as, it was freely admitted and, in fact, encouraged. So, no secret there. I wouldn't go out of my way to PROVE weather modification because of that.
However, if we are talking about Chemical dispersal over a wide portion of the US (which is what I thought chemtrails were alluding to), now THAT I would absolutely be on-board for going the distance with...
So, are we talking about weather modification? Or are we talking about Chemical dispersal? Orrrrrrrr
Are we assuming the 2 topics are actually one in the same as the chemical dispersal is FOR weather modification and thus DOES get dispersed upon the population over a wide area?
See my confusion?
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Tecumte
Chad offered no proof to support his conspiracy theory..
Yes, he did. You even commented on it.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
See how easy that was?
Originally posted by Tecumte
I fully admit what we are looking at is CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence